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Imperial Germany was a nation too clever for its own good. Case in point: invading neutral Belgium. From a military perspective, advancing to Belgium was a brilliant move to sidestep north of the French armies and fortifications on the Franco-German border, and then turn south to capture Paris and encircle the French armies from the rear. It reflected the traditional German preference for mobile warfare (Bewegungskrieg), which favored superior German tactics, rather than a static war of attrition (Stellungskrieg) that could only favor their numerically superior opponents.
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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 06:50:05 am »

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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 07:30:26 am »
The Germans had something like this called Case Yellow in 1940. The was a plan to push the Allied forces back through central Belgium to the Somme river, in northern France, with similarities to the 1914 campaign of the First World War. But this was changed when the Germans were to strike through the Ardennes then swinging to the coast cutting off all retreating Allied forces. This is called the sickelstroke. The Ardennes Forest Front had the worst equipped and worst training in the French Army. The French thought that an army could not go through the Ardennes.The Germans knew that it was weakly manned and they took advantage of it.
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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 09:12:05 am »
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Thanks for posting, @DemolitionMan

I wonder, if Germany had won WW 1 , Hitler probably would have gone to art school- no holocaust.
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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 01:36:05 pm »
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Thanks for posting, @DemolitionMan

I wonder, if Germany had won WW 1 , Hitler probably would have gone to art school- no holocaust.

If Germany had won decisively on the Western front in the early part of the war, not only no Hitler and no Holocaust, but no Lenin sent into Russia, no German financing of the Bolsheviks, so no Holodomor, no Gulag, no Cold War, likewise no carving up of the Ottoman Empire, meaning no Ataturk leaving a still functioning moderning Caliph as Sultan in Constantinople, and thus no Sunni terrorism.
And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know what this was all about.

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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 10:30:06 pm »
If Germany had won decisively on the Western front in the early part of the war, not only no Hitler and no Holocaust, but no Lenin sent into Russia, no German financing of the Bolsheviks, so no Holodomor, no Gulag, no Cold War, likewise no carving up of the Ottoman Empire, meaning no Ataturk leaving a still functioning moderning Caliph as Sultan in Constantinople, and thus no Sunni terrorism.
That's right. Wilhelm sent Lenin to Russia to disrupt his cousin's monarchy so the Tsar couldn't beleaguer him in the East and to free up the divisions Wilhelm needed in the West.  That shaped much of the 20th Century. The effect might have been that China would not have become Communist, and Korea, Vietnam, Pol Pot, etc. all might not have happened the way it did.  Americans might have been going to resorts in Cuba in the '60s and 70s...

That alone might have made the world a different place
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Re: Yes, Germany Could Have Won World War I (And Changed History Forever)
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2017, 01:06:54 am »
WWII gets all the press, but the entire world flipped on it's head from the fallout of WWI. We are still living in the fallout 100 years later.
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