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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2017, 09:35:01 pm »
I think Trump had the exact right tone and attitude going up against the swamp. Were he just another mealy mouthed republican politician he would have been eaten alive by the swamp creatures.

I hope he never changes.

Oh could never go there.  Trump is still a liberal President with a liberal family.  He also is friends with the Clintons.  Supported Obama...............  Has his daughter and son in law practically running him.


modified to show how Trumps tweet about Newtown supporting President Obama and gun control.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2017, 09:37:30 pm »
Oh could never go there.  Trump is still a liberal President with a liberal family.

Can you point to policies and regulations the Donny put in place that back that claim Bush voter?

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« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2017, 09:38:15 pm »
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.


Exactly how I feel.  Obama was a case of "Speak now, or forever hold your peace." 


I think they have a lot of gall opening their mouths after Obama.  They can go to H3ll.   
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2017, 09:42:05 pm »
I think Trump had the exact right tone and attitude going up against the swamp. Were he just another mealy mouthed republican politician he would have been eaten alive by the swamp creatures.

I hope he never changes.

(Confidentially, I agree with you.  I hope he doesn't change either.)
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2017, 10:18:27 pm »
Can you point to policies and regulations the Donny put in place that back that claim Bush voter?

DACA

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2017, 10:32:33 pm »
(Confidentially, I agree with you.  I hope he doesn't change either.)

The law of unintended consequences.  The Bushes should never have let this book be published ... BUT it has succeeded in driving some of the 'on the wall' people into the arms of Donald Trump.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2017, 10:41:54 pm »
DACA is not a done deal yet, I know one candidate want to give out massive green cards and expand the H1B1 visa program and legal residency to illegals. I'm sure if that had been contemplated, folks would say that pleases the liberals too.

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« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2017, 10:45:40 pm »
The law of unintended consequences.  The Bushes should never have let this book be published ... BUT it has succeeded in driving some of the 'on the wall' people into the arms of Donald Trump.

The Bushes are not interested in sowing harmony in the Party, they are only interested in extending their Dynasty within it.  They have no understanding they are driving people to Trump, the thought never entered their collective head.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2017, 11:26:20 pm »
Bush is right, and I don't think many here would objectively deny it.  Trump is a blowhard.

But Bush is a groper, and he was one before he went senile and ended up in a wheelchair, so he can't cast stones. 

Politicians aren't role models.

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« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2017, 11:31:21 pm »
You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.

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The friendship between Reagan and O'Neill is a myth. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/336185/good-ol-tip

He and O’Neill had some friendly moments: particularly when O’Neill visited Reagan in the hospital after the latter had been shot.

 But look: O’Neill was a nasty piece of work, who constantly slandered and defamed Reagan as a hater of the poor, a warmonger, and an idiot. O’Neill may not have been a warmonger, but he was as ugly a class warrior as we’ve ever had. He was one of the most partisan men who ever lived. To borrow language from another politician, Nixon, shall we flick the scab off the wound?

I heard O’Neill say something a million times: Reagan may have started out poor, sure, but then he started making big money in Hollywood, and resented the taxes taken out of his checks. Plus, he had not “grown” in office, but had clung to the same stupid beliefs he arrived in Washington with.

 Said O’Neill, “He has no concern, no regard, no care for the little man of America, and I understand that: Because of his lifestyle, he never meets those people.” Reagan, according to O’Neill, was “callous,” “a real Ebenezer Scrooge,” “a cheerleader for selfishness.” His administration, said O’Neill, had “made a target of the politically weak, the poor, the working people.” Reagan’s policies were just “one big Christmas party for the rich.”

....Here is O’Neill in 1984: “The evil is in the White House at the present time. And that evil is a man who has no care and no concern for the working class of America and the future generations of America, and who likes to ride a horse. He’s cold. He’s mean. He’s got ice water for blood.”


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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2017, 01:14:27 am »
The Bushes are not interested in sowing harmony in the Party, they are only interested in extending their Dynasty within it.  They have no understanding they are driving people to Trump, the thought never entered their collective head.

I said it was 'unintended', didn't I.

I don't think either of the Bushes want to extend their dynasty.  They both left the presidency with class and dignity.

I think Jeb may have been Barbara's favorite and it is rumored that she wished he'd been elected instead of George.

All this Bush hate is hindsight.  We all thought they were doing the right thing at the time and so did they.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #61 on: November 05, 2017, 01:32:47 am »
Both of them need to keep their mouth shut.....I would feel differently if they had been this vocal about Obama but it seems everything he did was okay.

Total respect, Mystery.  But THIS vocal?  A bit of a stretch.  This is a few words taken out of a full-length book.  I don't think either Bush has been extremely vocal.  Muted criticism is more like it.

And lashing out at Obama immediately paints one as a racist.  The left has seen to that.

I'm constantly on threads where people are decrying the loss of decency and virtue in society so ..

Instead of class and comity, we now prefer crass and bombastic?
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #62 on: November 05, 2017, 01:43:03 am »
Emjay wrote:
"Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him."

Not so.
O'Neill pretended to be friendly for the sake of appearances, but the truth is he hated Reagan's guts.

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« Reply #63 on: November 05, 2017, 01:44:36 am »
Frank Cannon wrote:
"If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week."

Best post of the thread, Frank.

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« Reply #64 on: November 05, 2017, 01:46:42 am »
Emjay wrote:
"Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him."

Not so.
O'Neill pretended to be friendly for the sake of appearances, but the truth is he hated Reagan's guts.

Oh, I know that, Fish.  I'm just saying they maintained the appearance of comity.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #65 on: November 05, 2017, 01:49:14 am »
Frank Cannon wrote:
"If I have a choice between having a swell guy and a nice speaker who sets policy in place to destroy the country and a foul mouthed, combative jerk President who does his damnedest to remove regulations and expand freedom, I'll take the jerk any day of the week."

Best post of the thread, Frank.

Others set 'em up, but you come along and knock 'em down!

I don't know who the 'swell guy and nice speaker' Frank has in mind.

But everybody knows I've been a Trump supporter ever since he won.

That does not mean I've lost my mind.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2017, 01:58:36 am »
Every single ex-President voted against Donny. That makes Trump an even better President than I thought.

Of course the Bush family would because they are busy promoting migration.

http://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs.html
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« Reply #67 on: November 05, 2017, 02:02:58 am »
You can post all the pictures you want, Frank, but don't forget there was a time when Presidents were collegial.  Reagan had a friendly relationship with Tip and it ended up benefiting him.

Everybody doesn't have to be mean as a snake to be president.

Emjay, I'm afraid that was another place and time.

Today's Dems are meaner and dirtier and much quicker to bite than those of RWR's day.

They've had it all going their way since Reagan and it's emboldened them considerably.
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« Reply #68 on: November 05, 2017, 02:15:26 am »
If only you did.  Hah.  What did I say that indicated worship to you?  I said I liked them.

Also it infuriates me that they have become such easy targets on TBR.  Everyone criticized them for not speaking and now people are criticizing them for a book with a few quotes dug out that show how old GHWB is.

Um.... old man Bush admitted (freely, it wasn't tortured out of him) to having voted for Hillary Effing Clinton.   And that doesn't bother you?   Not even a little?   I'm sure as hell not willing to chalk up his recent voting record admission to senility.... considering how badly he ALSO let us down during his first and only term in office.... when he was much younger.   It's a pattern.  One that I see clearly "now".   Just sayin.....

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« Reply #69 on: November 05, 2017, 02:29:55 am »


We are talking about the old man with dementia right. Not Dumbya.... his kid, not much better in my view nowdays.
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« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2017, 04:01:32 am »
DACA

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« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2017, 04:13:59 am »
Um.... old man Bush admitted (freely, it wasn't tortured out of him) to having voted for Hillary Effing Clinton.   And that doesn't bother you?   Not even a little?   I'm sure as hell not willing to chalk up his recent voting record admission to senility.... considering how badly he ALSO let us down during his first and only term in office.... when he was much younger.   It's a pattern.  One that I see clearly "now".   Just sayin.....


I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.
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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2017, 04:24:50 am »

I wish he hadn't done that, but let's face it.  A lot of our merry band of brothers here voted for Hillary.

Maybe not literally, but by sanctimoniously refusing to vote for Trump and voting for some obscure third or fourth party candidate, they were voting for Hillary.

I've read many, many posts to that effect, especially shortly after the election.

It's died down now because Trump has been a good president but it happened.

And, yes, I do cut 93-year-olds some slack.

What a load of shit, coming from the woman who on election night was wishing for Hillary to win instead of Trump. 

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Re: George H.W. Bush calls Trump a 'blowhard' in new book: 'I don't like him'
« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2017, 04:30:55 am »
What a load of shit, coming from the woman who on election night was wishing for Hillary to win instead of Trump.

Oh shit. Here we go. I better get a beer and a sandwich for this one.