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Re: BREAKING>>> Terror Attack In Manhattan
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2017, 12:36:30 am »
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« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2017, 12:38:47 am »
God bless Lou Dobbs, he is debunking the "lone wolf" BS.
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« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2017, 12:50:18 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 12:38:47 am
God bless Lou Dobbs, he is debunking the "lone wolf" BS.
He has been pretty solid even since his days at CNN.
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« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2017, 01:22:58 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 12:38:47 am
God bless Lou Dobbs, he is debunking the "lone wolf" BS.

What evidence does he have?  I don't get FNC.
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« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2017, 01:24:11 am »
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And, it was Chuck Schumer's bill that established the program.

Trouble is, Chuck Schumer introduced a bill to end the program: SB 744 in 2013.
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« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2017, 01:25:09 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 12:38:47 am
God bless Lou Dobbs, he is debunking the "lone wolf" BS.

How?!

Do Dobbs really think this guy had support? 

I'm guessing lone-wolf terrorist, personally.
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Re: BREAKING>>> Terror Attack In Manhattan
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2017, 01:29:17 am »
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Trouble is, Chuck Schumer introduced a bill to end the program: SB 744 in 2013.

I just read an article that said this terrorist came over on Schumer's bill.  But not sure correct.
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« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2017, 01:34:00 am »
Quote from: Applewood on November 01, 2017, 01:22:58 am
What evidence does he have?  I don't get FNC.

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Dobbs believes, as I do, that there is no such thing as a lone wolf. The terrorists all draw their inspiration from islam. He had several guests who concur. That is what I meant by debunking the "lone wolf" meme. This particular perp left a note in Arabic in his truck that he was acting for ISIS and had a picture of their flag.
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« Reply #84 on: November 01, 2017, 01:42:37 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 01:34:00 am
@Applewood

Dobbs believes, as I do, that there is no such thing as a lone wolf. The terrorists all draw their inspiration from islam. He had several guests who concur. That is what I meant by debunking the "lone wolf" meme. This particular perp left a note in Arabic in his truck that he was acting for ISIS and had a picture of their flag.
I agree. Where do you find a group of 'lone wolves' all shouting the exact same thing as they perpetrate their seemingly random crimes? (It makes me wonder what was being said in Vegas....)
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« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2017, 01:47:29 am »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on November 01, 2017, 01:30:23 am
Why not just shoot him in the head and be done with it.  Now he'll get life in prison that we'll pay for.
Yeah, but the guards place the right cellmates with him, there could be lots of entertainment than those 72 virgins that were promised.
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« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2017, 01:51:40 am »
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« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2017, 01:53:27 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 01:34:00 am
@Applewood

Dobbs believes, as I do, that there is no such thing as a lone wolf. The terrorists all draw their inspiration from islam. He had several guests who concur. That is what I meant by debunking the "lone wolf" meme. This particular perp left a note in Arabic in his truck that he was acting for ISIS and had a picture of their flag.

Okay, so his argument is to change the definition he doesn't like.
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Re: BREAKING>>> Terror Attack In Manhattan
« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2017, 01:53:48 am »
Quote from: mrpotatohead on November 01, 2017, 01:30:23 am
Why not just shoot him in the head and be done with it.  Now he'll get life in prison that we'll pay for.


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In Israel they would have shot that guy 25 times and cut his tongue out. They do not play around with all that 'religion of peace' bullshit. They will kill a Muslim any time any day, that they think he has stupid ass Allah disease. Shoot them. ask questions later.


It is a Death Cult. That's what they are. That's what they do. They kill for their moon God. Look at them and tell me that I am wrong.
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« Reply #90 on: November 01, 2017, 01:55:15 am »
"A lone wolf, lone-wolf terrorist, or lone actor, is someone who prepares and commits violent acts alone, outside of any command structure and without material assistance from any group. He or she may be influenced or motivated by the ideology and beliefs of an external group and may act in support of such a group."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_wolf_%28terrorism%29
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Re: BREAKING>>> Terror Attack In Manhattan
« Reply #91 on: November 01, 2017, 01:57:39 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 01, 2017, 01:42:37 am
I agree. Where do you find a group of 'lone wolves' all shouting the exact same thing as they perpetrate their seemingly random crimes? (It makes me wonder what was being said in Vegas....)

In the place where the term "lone wolf" originated -- with white supremacists/neo-nazis -- and also with Islamic terrorists.
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« Reply #92 on: November 01, 2017, 01:59:59 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 01:34:00 am
@Applewood

Dobbs believes, as I do, that there is no such thing as a lone wolf. The terrorists all draw their inspiration from islam. He had several guests who concur. That is what I meant by debunking the "lone wolf" meme. This particular perp left a note in Arabic in his truck that he was acting for ISIS and had a picture of their flag.

Ok.  I misunderstood.  I thought maybe Dobbs was saying that on this particular "mission," the perp had accomplices.  Oh, yes, I'm well aware that these bad guys don't just think of these mass murders themselves.  They either have to formally belong to ISIS or one of its numerous affiliates, or are ISIS wannabes who get their inspiration and ideas  from the terrorists' websites.

I hadn't heard that ISIS evidence had been found in the truck.  Last I heard, the FBI was going to talk to the perp's friends and family and the investigation was still ongoing.  Thank you for keeping me informed. 
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« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2017, 02:05:47 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on November 01, 2017, 01:57:39 am
In the place where the term "lone wolf" originated -- with white supremacists/neo-nazis -- and also with Islamic terrorists.
If one guy with a Ryder Truck full of fertilizer can be blamed on gunowners across America who have much different beliefs, I would suspect any fairness in attribution could have this and myriad other incidents with similar MO and slogans yelled laid on the bloody steps of the group which has fostered and encouraged such terrorism.
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Re: BREAKING>>> Terror Attack In Manhattan
« Reply #94 on: November 01, 2017, 02:05:51 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 01, 2017, 01:42:37 am
I agree. Where do you find a group of 'lone wolves' all shouting the exact same thing as they perpetrate their seemingly random crimes? (It makes me wonder what was being said in Vegas....)

@Smokin Joe

Compare and contrast this NYC investigation with Vegas. Two hours solved in NYC- one month later in Vegas nada.

I also reject the "home grown" meme and despise those who say the perp shouted "God is great." Nope, he said alllah is great. I refuse to use the language of the left.
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« Reply #95 on: November 01, 2017, 02:11:10 am »
Quote from: Concerned on November 01, 2017, 01:55:15 am
"A lone wolf, lone-wolf terrorist, or lone actor, is someone who prepares and commits violent acts alone, outside of any command structure and without material assistance from any group. He or she may be influenced or motivated by the ideology and beliefs of an external group and may act in support of such a group."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_wolf_%28terrorism%29

Wikipedia- oh, I can corrected/s. So Wikipedia is the authority? This is a false construct of the politically correct.
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« Reply #96 on: November 01, 2017, 02:13:53 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on November 01, 2017, 01:53:27 am
Okay, so his argument is to change the definition he doesn't like.

@Suppressed

I think the whole "lone wolf" construct is designed to make people feel safer. I don't buy it.
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« Reply #97 on: November 01, 2017, 02:15:44 am »
Quote from: Freya on November 01, 2017, 01:42:55 am
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Does this article help?.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/31/nyc-terror-attack-leaves-8-dead-several-injured.html

Yes, no doubt about motivation. Also heard on Fox that he had a hunting knife in a bag that he didn't use for some reason.
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« Reply #98 on: November 01, 2017, 02:16:12 am »
Quote from: austingirl on November 01, 2017, 02:11:10 am
Wikipedia- oh, I can corrected/s. So Wikipedia is the authority? This is a false construct of the politically correct.

In this particular case, I find the Wiki definition of "lone wolf" consistent with mine (and consistent with most of the folks I've discussed this with).  Having said that, I'm sure there are some who have alternative definitions.
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« Reply #99 on: November 01, 2017, 02:18:16 am »
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