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[musiclady]

Me, neither.  My husband hated Lincoln because he thought the Civil War could have been avoided and Lincoln enacted some government policies that were overreaching.

But Communism?  Not seeing it.

It's not there.

[Bigun]

I haven't put ANYTHING on Trump that belongs on Obama, so don't go down that crooked road.  (You sound like a groupie.  May want to think that over).



But one thing I learned a very long time ago is not to discuss Lincoln with someone who hates him with a passion.

So my part of this discussion is over.

You win.  Cause you won't stop, and I will.

You don't graduate from West Point in ten months!

I don't hate anyone but do have the ability to see both the trees and the forrest!  Never once said Lincoln himself was a Communist!

[Smokin Joe]

Sorry, Bigun.  I'm not going to blame Lincoln for the progressive/leftist/Communist usurpation of all that is right and good in this country.

Not gonna do it.......

Centralization of power is essential to the Marxist. Lincoln's fundamental change and contribution was from a Federal Government to a National Government, enforced at sword/gun point if necessary.

[Bigun]

Centralization of power is essential to the Marxist. Lincoln's fundamental change and contribution was from a Federal Government to a National Government, enforced at sword/gun point if necessary.

@Smokin Joe

Yep!  He opened wide the doors through which every statist since has walked!  And denying that it happened won't change it.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Yep!  He opened wide the doors through which every statist since has walked!  And denying that it happened won't change it.

It's how we went from These United States to The United States.

[DiogenesLamp]

I am sorry but I didn't see anything in that post that was racist. First there was a statement of fact, a law was passed.

After that, there is a saying that sums things up:

"Birds of a feather flock together".

To a great degree, that is a cultural thing, but cultures are formed by groups of people, and people are most comfortable around those who share their tribal attributes.

Because, at their core, humans are tribal in nature. We determine, instinctively, "friends" as those who look or act like us, and 'foes' as those who do not. It's instinctive, so much so that we normally attribute virtuous qualities to those we find so familiar as to consider them attractive, and less desirable attributes to those we do not consider attractive. Even children's cartoons have villains who are somehow unpleasant caricatures of ordinary human appearance.  Friend or foe, part of my tribe or not?


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Well thought out,  and exactly defines how I see things.  "Racism" is instinctual,  and it is as silly to believe that people are not inherently racist as it is to believe that a man with a "Y" chromosome can pretend to be a woman. 


You have to teach people to accept others who are different.  It doesn't come natural.  Mistrust of others is what is natural. 

Once again I point out that it is Christian principles that form the core of this "love thy neighbor"  philosophy. 

[DiogenesLamp]

I just watched a slide show and documentary about the Kennedy's.  Talk about corrupt.  The much idolized JFK was a sexual predator and so was Robert.  Jackie was afraid to be alone with Robert for fear he would rape her.  The whole Kennedy family was corrupt and awful.

The press covered it up.

I've read that the Father, (Joe Kennedy)  would share hookers with his sons,  and even have sex with their girl friends.   Yes,  the Kennedys were human garbage.  People just don't know.   

[DiogenesLamp]

Me, neither.  My husband hated Lincoln because he thought the Civil War could have been avoided and Lincoln enacted some government policies that were overreaching.

But Communism?  Not seeing it.

I've heard of this before,  but I don't put much stock in it.   Karl Marx supported Lincoln because he saw what Lincoln had done as benefiting the "workers"  and the poor class.   There were people involved in the early aspects of communism that were on Lincoln's side and in positions of influence,  but it does not necessarily follow that Lincoln's motivations were communistic.   


I place his motivations as being "Crony Capitalist",  not socialist.   Look at who benefited from what he did.   Those who gained were the titans of Northern Industry.  The Rail Roads,  the Shippers,  the Bankers,  the Manufacturers,  and so forth.   

Had the war not been fought,  these people would have lost huge sums of money as the South "stole"  much of the North's economic activity by shifting European trade to the South.