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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2017, 08:42:53 pm »
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2017, 08:51:43 pm »
Totally lost on the troll!

The percentage has gone up.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2017, 11:45:21 pm »
The percentage has gone up.

That was the most recent graphic I could find.
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2017, 02:46:15 am »
That was the most recent graphic I could find.

I know, but the number has risen to historic levels now.  Think about it - 80% of the people living here pay a grand total of 5% of income taxes, and some want to raise income taxes on the 20%.  Bad thinking.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2017, 02:49:00 am »
I know, but the number has risen to historic levels now.  Think about it - 80% of the people living here pay a grand total of 5% of income taxes, and some want to raise income taxes on the 20%.  Bad thinking.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2017, 03:31:13 am »
I know, but the number has risen to historic levels now.  Think about it - 80% of the people living here pay a grand total of 5% of income taxes, and some want to raise income taxes on the 20%.  Bad thinking.
I wonder when trolls will answer the question "Do you believe that is fair?"
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2017, 05:19:44 am »
I'm sitting at my desk in my lab, and I have a wall about eight feet in front of me.  I may as well be talking to that.

As an aside, the best thing I ever did when I moved here was putting my (computer) lab right off my living room. I have to keep my benches and desk presentable, but the trade-off is marvelous. My view from my desk is right out the north facing picture window across the living room... looking approximately northeast at the Whitefish and Columbia mountain ranges.

It is AMAZING to have sunlight, and often I will set my test benches to work, and retire to my Lazy Boy with my cup, operating everything by RDP.  Beats the living crap out of being a basement troll, with maybe one high window and concrete bouncing the rf gain around.
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2017, 05:32:35 am »
Oh yeah? You should see what I have to do the rest of the week and probably the weekend to generate enough cash to pay people. Plus I got Uncle Sams thumb up my ass all the time to make sure I am not hiding any pennies from him.

Boy, I hear that. Try being 100k sideways 60 days over in receivables and still figure out how to come up with payroll for 9 employees. Folks think being the boss is easy street, when it is really anything but. All the risk all the time... no help for you.

I think it should be part of learning to find out just how hard it is to jam the deal. They have no idea at all.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2017, 06:17:18 am »
And what is the Republican plan? Make the income tax rates even more progressive putting the burden on fewer and fewer people...

I'm totally disgusted with them. They might as well put a D after their name and be done with the charade.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2017, 03:09:26 pm »
I wonder when trolls will answer the question "Do you believe that is fair?"

When I first saw King with the "Tax cuts for the rich" blather, I asked several times:  What does "tax expenditure" mean?  Several times, not one answer.  Showed me that person may be a Leftist, but isn't stupid.
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #60 on: October 28, 2017, 06:02:47 pm »



Does it ever bother you that Ted Cruz's father was a revolutionary with Communist Castro ??

It puts an interesting spin on Lying Ted promoting a GOP tax plan that engages in class warfare.






Doesn't bother me one bit because I know that is a blatant lie put forward by David Pecker, his birdcage liner called the National Enquirer and Pecker's best bud Donald Trump.

If you've got a source that isn't one of the three people I mentioned above...let's see it.

Otherwise...you're just repeating a blatant falsehood.




If you are really a Texan you should know that when Ted Cruz first ran for office, his father's association with Castro became public knowledge.  His father joined Castro's Communist revolution and was jailed by Batista for being a revolutionary.  Then he was released from prison and moved to Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Bienvenido_Cruz


What you are referring to was during the presidential campaign when it was implied [and Trump repeated it] that Ted Cruz's father might have been involved with Oswald and the assassination of JFK. Quite ironic...  because now President Trump has released some secret documents related to the JFK assassination.



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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #61 on: October 28, 2017, 06:08:03 pm »


Why does it NOT bother you that under the GOP's proposed tax plan taxes will INCREASE for many lower and middle income people in order to pay for tax cuts for the rich ??

 Much of what the GOP is "giving" in tax cuts...  it will take away from others in tax increases.

The GOP is eliminating inflation-indexed personal exemptions and higher standard deductions that help low and middle income people... to use the money saved from that to help pay for the tax cuts for the rich... just like the GOP wants to use the money saved from eliminating the deduction for state taxes to help pay for tax cuts for the rich.

In short, the GOP is robbing poor Peter to pay rich Paul.




Trolls here spend a lot of time personally attacking me...
when they should be addressing this post.  This is why
Americans are NOT supporting the GOP tax plan because
it robs lower and middle income taxpayers to give tax cuts
to the rich.


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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #62 on: October 28, 2017, 06:11:18 pm »

Trolls here spend a lot of time personally attacking me...
when they should be addressing this post.  This is why
Americans are NOT supporting the GOP tax plan because
it robs lower and middle income taxpayers to give tax cuts
to the rich.

You're calling the conservatives on this forum "trolls" while you regurgitate leftist talking points incessantly??

You've been schooled on your "tax cuts for the rich" nonsense.  Take a moment to think about it and then come back a wiser person.
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #63 on: October 28, 2017, 06:18:06 pm »

Trolls here spend a lot of time personally attacking me...
when they should be addressing this post.  This is why
Americans are NOT supporting the GOP tax plan because
it robs lower and middle income taxpayers to give tax cuts
to the rich.

If people have not been replying to that post, even though you say they would if they were good little posters, it might be because they aren't buying the contents.  Your reposting it with great big giant letters probably won't get you any better response.  Maybe if you had colored them Purple....

You never answered my post, by the way.  The one where I asked you if you believe your tax liability would decrease if we really socked it to the "rich" by taxing them 90% for all their income (not just marginal).  You  also refused to answer my question "What do you understand the term 'Tax Expenditure' to mean?"   I asked that one on another thread, when your very first post on the forum was denouncing "Tax cuts for the rich."

Ignoring people goes both ways, and you're pretty darned good at it yourself.
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2017, 06:23:03 pm »
If people have not been replying to that post, even though you say they would if they were good little posters, it might be because they aren't buying the contents.  Your reposting it with great big giant letters probably won't get you any better response.  Maybe if you had colored them Purple....

You never answered my post, by the way.  The one where I asked you if you believe your tax liability would decrease if we really socked it to the "rich" by taxing them 90% for all their income (not just marginal).  You  also refused to answer my question "What do you understand the term 'Tax Expenditure' to mean?"   I asked that one on another thread, when your very first post on the forum was denouncing "Tax cuts for the rich."

Ignoring people goes both ways, and you're pretty darned good at it yourself.

In my case it's a lot more simple.  Ijust refuse to feed trolls!
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #66 on: October 28, 2017, 06:27:25 pm »


You're calling the conservatives on this forum "trolls" while you regurgitate leftist talking points incessantly??

You've been schooled on your "tax cuts for the rich" nonsense.  Take a moment to think about it and then come back a wiser person.




I have posted the truth. 

Yet posters here repeatedly refuse to address what I post and continue personal attacks.  It makes me wonder what exactly is those posters' real agenda.  They are certainly NOT helping the "conservative" cause... nor are they helping the GOP pass their tax fiasco. 





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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #67 on: October 28, 2017, 06:33:55 pm »


I have posted the truth. 


You've posted bullshit Leftist links and made lame generic Commie talking point posts to buttress them because you are an economic illiterate and all around eff up. I know it. You know it. Everyone here knows it. Your pals at DU even know it.

You couldn't argue your way out of Jaywalking ticket you are so unprepared for debate. It's an embarrassment to forum posters everywhere..

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #68 on: October 28, 2017, 06:35:30 pm »
KingsX wants others' Cake, so he/she/it can have more

In his/her/its case probably in the form of negative income tax, aka "earned income tax credits"


Socialist income redistribution doesn't become anything else, merely by posting it on a conservative forum.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #69 on: October 28, 2017, 06:40:37 pm »


I have posted the truth.

Yet posters here repeatedly refuse to address what I post and continue personal attacks.  It makes me wonder what exactly is those posters' real agenda.  They are certainly NOT helping the "conservative" cause... nor are they helping the GOP pass their tax fiasco.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #70 on: October 28, 2017, 06:45:04 pm »



If you are really a Texan you should know that when Ted Cruz first ran for office, his father's association with Castro became public knowledge.  His father joined Castro's Communist revolution and was jailed by Batista for being a revolutionary.  Then he was released from prison and moved to Texas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Bienvenido_Cruz


What you are referring to was during the presidential campaign when it was implied [and Trump repeated it] that Ted Cruz's father might have been involved with Oswald and the assassination of JFK. Quite ironic...  because now President Trump has released some secret documents related to the JFK assassination.

@KingsX

So you're into the Rafael Cruz Kennedy conspiracy?  Even Trump admitted he was trolling with that one.  Still, he really does understand the type of stuff his followers will fall for.

What do you think about the link I posted, which makes it clear that Cruz couldn't have known Castro was a Communist?  I notice you didn't respond.

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #71 on: October 28, 2017, 06:50:00 pm »


I have posted the truth. 

Yet posters here repeatedly refuse to address what I post and continue personal attacks.  It makes me wonder what exactly is those posters' real agenda.  They are certainly NOT helping the "conservative" cause... nor are they helping the GOP pass their tax fiasco.

Let me be straight up with you @KingsX,   if I was running this place your troll azz would have been history already!
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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #72 on: October 28, 2017, 06:50:04 pm »


I have posted the truth. 

Yet posters here repeatedly refuse to address what I post and continue personal attacks.  It makes me wonder what exactly is those posters' real agenda.  They are certainly NOT helping the "conservative" cause... nor are they helping the GOP pass their tax fiasco.

@KingsX

Now Paul Ryan says the GOP is considering an added bracket that would make it easier to maintain high tax rates on upper earners.  Does that make you feel better?  Ease your envy a little bit?

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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #73 on: October 28, 2017, 07:00:20 pm »


Let me be straight up with you @KingsX,   if I was running this place your troll azz would have been history already!



You are the one who posts personal insults like a Kremlin troll.


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Re: Americans aren’t buying the GOP's tax plan
« Reply #74 on: October 28, 2017, 07:02:46 pm »

You are the one who posts personal insults like a Kremlin troll.

No insults posted by me!  Just plain old facts!  Bye bye now!
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