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White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« on: October 25, 2017, 08:00:52 pm »
White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
By Melanie Zanona - 10/25/17 03:02 PM EDT

The White House may back the first hike in the federal gasoline tax in decades in order to pay for President Trump’s $1 trillion infrastructure package. 

Trump’s economic adviser Gary Cohn reportedly told moderate House lawmakers at a private meeting on Wednesday that they'll get a chance to vote on a gas tax hike early next year as part of an infrastructure bill, which was first reported by Politico Playbook.

"Cohn seemed receptive to it," one meeting participant told The Hill.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2017, 08:15:53 pm »
There must be pre-Halloween seances being held in the WH, communicating with Paul Tsongas.

As it is, the Feds collect $0.18 per gallon of gasoline and $0.24 on diesel.  That is an unbelievable amount of money across 50 states. If they can’t find cuts in the current budget to fund it, they don’t need it.
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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2017, 09:12:12 pm »
How is this conservative? It is not worth to pay for Trump's mobster friends.
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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2017, 09:15:41 pm »
"Cohn seemed receptive to it," one meeting participant told The Hill.

I call bullshit. Cohn met with RINO's and one of them said he was "receptive". That means he didn't bring it up, but a swell piece of Leftist filth like Charlie Dent did.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2017, 12:22:55 am »
Not just no, but HELL NO.

What type of Republicans are in DC anyway?  New taxes??

Even their own platform says not to have new taxes.

Republican budgets will prioritize thrift over
extravagance and put taxpayers first.


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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2017, 12:44:01 am »
Not just no, but HELL NO.

What type of Republicans are in DC anyway?  New taxes??

Even their own platform says not to have new taxes.

Republican budgets will prioritize thrift over
extravagance and put taxpayers first.


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What you said!   :thumbsup3:
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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2017, 12:52:32 am »
Well...isn't this just hunky dory.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2017, 01:10:13 am »
How about we use that "shovel ready jobs" slush fund Obama created for this?

Oh wait that's right...it's now been absorbed into the yearly budget requests.
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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2017, 01:15:08 am »
I would take a moment to point this thread out to those Tump advocates that swear he is conservative and following conservative principles.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2017, 07:40:22 am »

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First they want to raise income taxes for many lower and middle incomes, now the gasoline tax.





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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2017, 08:02:13 am »
Trump better be damn careful not to have a "read my lips" moment.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2017, 08:12:34 am »
Pennsylvania gas prices are already the highest or one of the highest in the nation because the state gasoline tax is high.  Add in an increase in the federal tax and the price of a gallon of gas will be astronomical. 

By the way,  Pennsylvania allegedly uses its gasoline taxes to fix and maintain the roads and bridges.  Yet, PA has the worst roads in the country.  I wouldn't trust that an increase in the federal tax will really be used on federal roadways.





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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2017, 08:24:10 am »
Pennsylvania gas prices are already the highest or one of the highest in the nation because the state gasoline tax is high.  Add in an increase in the federal tax and the price of a gallon of gas will be astronomical. 

By the way,  Pennsylvania allegedly uses its gasoline taxes to fix and maintain the roads and bridges.  Yet, PA has the worst roads in the country.  I wouldn't trust that an increase in the federal tax will really be used on federal roadways.

Probably much of it will be used for salary and benefit increases of DOT white collar government union employees.

We elected Trump to cut waste in government and make government more efficient. Not to add to the cost and pay more money to people who are already overpaid.

They should be reducing the gas tax, not increasing it, while repairing and building infrastructure at the same time.

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2017, 12:22:52 pm »
How about we use that "shovel ready jobs" slush fund Obama created for this?

Oh wait that's right...it's now been absorbed into the yearly budget requests.

This may be a tough sell not only to Congress but the public at large and one of the reasons is what you stated

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2017, 12:32:48 pm »
How is this conservative? It is not worth to pay for Trump's mobster friends.

It's not conservative to spend money you don't have.   If investment in crumbling infrastructure is a good thing - and it will no doubt provide jobs to lots of folks who've been hurting lately - then raising the gas tax by a modest amount strikes me as perfectly conservative.

Now, one can argue that additional infrastructure spending isn't needed, or that such money will likely be wasted because government inevitably messes with the free market.   But if we decide to rebuild roads and bridges, then raising the gas tax to pay for it is simply being responsible.

I do like the fact the tax as proposed is static rather than dynamic.   To me, that's conservative.  A 7-cent tax won't increase in the future as the price of gas rises.   A 7-percent tax, by contrast,  gives the government a revenue boost whenever it effects other policies that increase the price of fuel.     

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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2017, 12:39:36 pm »
Pennsylvania gas prices are already the highest or one of the highest in the nation because the state gasoline tax is high.  Add in an increase in the federal tax and the price of a gallon of gas will be astronomical. 

By the way,  Pennsylvania allegedly uses its gasoline taxes to fix and maintain the roads and bridges.  Yet, PA has the worst roads in the country.  I wouldn't trust that an increase in the federal tax will really be used on federal roadways.



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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2017, 12:50:28 pm »


http://www.api.org/oil-and-natural-gas/consumer-information/motor-fuel-taxes

Thanks. 

And I must correct myself, in the last rankings PA's roads came in third worst.  But they have in other years been rated the worst.

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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2017, 12:55:35 pm »
Trump better be damn careful not to have a "read my lips" moment.

He's already had too many.
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Re: White House eyes 7-cent gas tax hike for infrastructure plan
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2017, 01:02:24 pm »
It's not conservative to spend money you don't have.  If investment in crumbling infrastructure is a good thing - and it will no doubt provide jobs to lots of folks who've been hurting lately - then raising the gas tax by a modest amount strikes me as perfectly conservative.

Now, one can argue that additional infrastructure spending isn't needed, or that such money will likely be wasted because government inevitably messes with the free market.   But if we decide to rebuild roads and bridges, then raising the gas tax to pay for it is simply being responsible.

I do like the fact the tax as proposed is static rather than dynamic.   To me, that's conservative.  A 7-cent tax won't increase in the future as the price of gas rises.   A 7-percent tax, by contrast,  gives the government a revenue boost whenever it effects other policies that increase the price of fuel.     

Those jobs won't be much use if the cost of basic necessities like food go up.  And you had better believe that any increase in the cost of transporting goods will be passed on to the consumer. 


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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2017, 01:08:40 pm »
Those jobs won't be much use if the cost of basic necessities like food go up.  And you had better believe that any increase in the cost of transporting goods will be passed on to the consumer.

Of course.  But crumbling roads and bridges raise the cost of transportation too.  Potholes damage tires and suspensions;  a closed bridge will force truckers to make detours.   And hardening the electric grid could save us incalculable amounts if it can help minimize the damage from an EMP strike.

 Is investment in infrastructure a good idea?   For conservatives, that's debatable.  What ought not be debatable is taking responsibility to pay for it. 
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If investment in crumbling infrastructure is a good thing - and it will no doubt provide jobs to lots of folks who've been hurting lately - then raising the gas tax by a modest amount strikes me as perfectly conservative.

How many more "infrastructure crisis'" are we going to be told we're in before the people get wise to the fact that it's just a way to get more money to spend into the general fund at the expense of the people?


This is no different than people demanding money because "it's for the children".

We went through this infrastructure crap with Obama right after he took office.  You're telling me that in 8 short years after the trillions of dollars spent supposedly spent on "infrastructure"...it's still at the point of collapse?

I call bullsh*t on this whole thing.  It's not Conservative and it's not necessary.
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2017, 01:20:21 pm »
How many more "infrastructure crisis'" are we going to be told we're in before the people get wise to the fact that it's just a way to get more money to spend into the general fund at the expense of the people?


This is no different than people demanding money because "it's for the children".

We went through this infrastructure crap with Obama right after he took office.  You're telling me that in 8 short years after the trillions of dollars spent supposedly spent on "infrastructure"...it's still at the point of collapse?

I call bullsh*t on this whole thing.  It's not Conservative and it's not necessary.

Roads and bridges in good shape where you live?  Well, not where I do.   And do you think we shouldn't prioritize hardening the electric grid?   
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2017, 01:28:06 pm »
Of course.  But crumbling roads and bridges raise the cost of transportation too.  Potholes damage tires and suspensions;  a closed bridge will force truckers to make detours.   And hardening the electric grid could save us incalculable amounts if it can help minimize the damage from an EMP strike.

 Is investment in infrastructure a good idea?   For conservatives, that's debatable.  What ought not be debatable is taking responsibility to pay for it.

But we can't rely on the assurances that an increase in the gas tax will indeed go toward improving our infrastructure.  Government loves to create a "crisis" -- in this case, a supposedly crumbling infrastructure -- and the only solution is to throw money at it.  Only.  the money is not spent on the "crisis."  In fact, most of the time we don't know where the money went to because governmental agencies are not held accountable.  The money often disappears. 

Both parties think the American taxpayer is an infinite source of revenue and they can just hit us  all up for more money anytime they feel like it.  If they want more tax dollars to solve this "crisis," then let us see specifically where the money is going to go.  Give us a full and complete description of every proposed road, bridge or grid project.  And as these projects move forward, provide us with an accounting of every dollar spent.  Finally, each project must be done right the first time with the best materials and the most competent workers.  None of this hiring some congressman's buddies or buying inferior materials which won't last, requiring the project to be done over again later.  There should be no tax increase unless these conditions are met.

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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2017, 01:28:40 pm »
Roads and bridges in good shape where you live?  Well, not where I do.   And do you think we shouldn't prioritize hardening the electric grid?   

Then your city, county and state need to be taking care of that.  We don't need the Federal government imposing yet another tax on an already over taxed society just so they have more money to spend on useless crap that benefits no one.

You're more of a fool than I already know you for if you honestly think any of this new tax scam will actually go for roads and bridges.
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