Poll finds most African-Americans view Black Lives Matter as an effective movement

[rangerrebew]

Poll finds most African-Americans view Black Lives Matter as an effective movement
October 20, 2017 by Hilary Hurd Anyaso

Credit: Northwestern University

News about the Black Lives Matter movement (BLM) breaks daily—"Can Black Lives Matter Win in the Age of Trump?" "Black Lives Matter Movement Cannot Be Sued, U.S. Judge Rules," "Black Lives Matter Sign Is Repeatedly Vandalized."

But how do African-Americans really feel about the grassroots movement?

According to a new poll by Northwestern University's Center for the Study of Diversity and Democracy (CSDD), 81 percent of respondents see the Black Lives Matter movement as effective across multiple spheres of advocacy, rating the movement as at least "moderately effective," "very effective" or "extremely effective."


Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-10-poll-african-americans-view-black-effective.html#jCp

[DB]

Effective at what?

Promoting lies, violence and racism?

If so, yes the BLM promoters are successful at their goal...

[stephen50right]

Black Lives Matter is a malignant leftist disease, and that is a fact.

Today's "civil rights" movement isn't about civil rights, it's about the money. We already have the strongest civil rights laws in the world and they are rigidly enforced. That is good enough by any reasonable standard.

Leftists for the most part don't wish to work. They prefer to be leeches and parasites among society, and they figure if they protest both peacefully and/or violently, then the rest of us will feel coerced or frightened into giving them money in hopes of placating them. Enough is enough...no more backing down and throwing money at leftists whose wish to steal from society is insatiable.

[goatprairie]

It is indisputable that the most dangerous place for any black American to be is next to another black American.  By far. Law-abiding black Americans have close to a zero percent chance of being killed by a policeman or even a white racist.
Getting killed by other black people is another matter. Then the chances go way up.
If 81% of black Americans believe BLM addresses a real problem, then they're either ignorant or willing and eager to push the black supremacist line. 

[andy58-in-nh]

What has proven most effective is in fact a strategy, not a movement.

Progressives of the socialist Left have learned that they may succeed in their ambitions not by promoting an agenda, but by controlling the public language.

The chief tactic employed in this effort has been the purposeful and by now, successful redefinition of important words such as "justice", "fairness" and "rights", so as to change public understanding of what they actually mean.  By controlling the language, a movement may in time convert the public's comprehension, and turn private activity into the service of nakedly political ends. In essence, by controlling the language, one can alter the public's idea of Reality.

Crucial in this effort has been the Progressive march through the institutions of public life: the educational establishment, the news media, the arts and entertainment centers, faith-based organizations, and the government bureaucracies.

The Left now largely controls all of these in America.

A closely-related and equally vital tactic has been the use of epithet in order to define and demonize the opposition. Terms such as racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, warmonger, Nazi, and others have been employed both intentionally and indiscriminately for many years now.

And now that the Left controls the language through its dominance of social institutions, it is sufficient only to accuse, not to prove. Accusation is now commonly held as proof of guilt. The burden has shifted to members of the accused and disfavored groups, and in favor of those groups the Left champions - in fact, manipulates - in the service of its political agenda: the consolidation of its power, and the accumulation of unearned wealth with which to purchase the loyalty of its client groups.

The result has been a fragmentation of America into tribal and geographical identities: wealthy coastal elites, dependent urban constituents, and culturally alienated members of the disfavored groups in the great center of the country.

Where we go from here is uncertain, but it is certain that absent a change of course and the rise of new leadership in opposition, the center will not hold.

[XenaLee]

It is indisputable that the most dangerous place for any black American to be is next to another black American.  By far. Law-abiding black Americans have close to a zero percent chance of being killed by a policeman or even a white racist.
Getting killed by other black people is another matter. Then the chances go way up.
If 81% of black Americans believe BLM addresses a real problem, then they're either ignorant or willing and eager to push the black supremacist line.

I posit that it's both.   They are both ignorant AND only too willing to push the Black/Critical Race Theory Movement LIES (Hands up, don't shoot).  And you can thank Obama for much of that "willingness".  He put the "belligerent" into their thick skulls where none previously existed.  It is rampant now.  Oh sure, there were blacks with an attitude before Obama.  But Obama reinforced, increased and solidified that 'mentality' among black Americans.

[skeeter]

Black Lives Matter is just a chip on the shoulder, daring white America to knock off. I guess that feels good to most blacks.

[truth_seeker]

Some questions which deserve answers:

1.  Do blacks still commit murder at 7 times the rate, of whites?

2.  Have they always done so?

3.  Are blacks disproportionately represented in prisons, for violent crimes?

4.  Do similar statistics and concerns exist for blacks in the UK?

5. Why do some deny facts about blacks?

[Applewood]

As with most polls, I wonder who the pollsters asked.  This poll was done by Northwestern University.  Who did they ask?  Brain dead, thoroughly indoctrinated college students? 

I'll bet if they asked the responsible married guy, maybe 30 or so years old, with 2 children, maybe working 2 jobs to support his family, the pollsters might get a different answer.

[stephen50right]

Some questions which deserve answers:

1.  Do blacks still commit murder at 7 times the rate, of whites?

2.  Have they always done so?

3.  Are blacks disproportionately represented in prisons, for violent crimes?

4.  Do similar statistics and concerns exist for blacks in the UK?

5. Why do some deny facts about blacks?

Well of course your questions are rhetorical, and all valid indeed.

I read somewhere that before the "War on Poverty" which started back in the 1960's, the out of wedlock birth rate for blacks was just slightly higher than whites. I didn't google it, but now I believe it's over 75% for blacks. It's gone up for whites as well but not even close to the black rate.

It's been proven that kids are much more prone to crime and become adult criminals when raised in a single mother household, than in a household with two parents.

The basic mistake made by politicians in that era and still today is that it shouldn't be a "War on Poverty" which is a proven failure...instead it should be something like an "Advancement for Opportunity" such as policies which contribute to learning and business, not just throwing money at the problem by hiring more incompetent white collar government employees to do more studies.

The old saying is so wise of “You give a poor man a fish and you feed him for a day. You teach him to fish and you give him an occupation that will feed him for a lifetime.” Why politicians, especially Democrats, to this day have not understood this is beyond me.

[goatprairie]

Some questions which deserve answers:

1.  Do blacks still commit murder at 7 times the rate, of whites?

2.  Have they always done so?

3.  Are blacks disproportionately represented in prisons, for violent crimes?

4.  Do similar statistics and concerns exist for blacks in the UK?

5. Why do some deny facts about blacks?

There was a black caller in to Limbaugh's show last week while Mark Steyn was guest-hosting.  Steyn was talking about the kneelers and protesters during the playing of the NA.  The black caller claimed to be a military veteran, and was firmly on the side of the kneelers and protesters during the NA. He complained about constantly being stopped by traffic cops for no reason whatsoever.
Now, there's no way to verify his claim, but I've heard that same thing from other blacks in newspaper columns or on talk shows. Numerous blacks claim that they are constantly stopped by traffic cops for no reason ........except of course for racist harassment reasons.
There have been a number of studies done about this claim.  All the studies have shown that while, yes, blacks are stopped appreciably more than other groups,  the studies showed that they are stopped far more, because they commit a far higher percentage of traffic violations.
I remember some years ago staying at a house of a person who lived in an integrated neighborhood.  Before we, myself and some friends,  came to her house, she warned us to be careful while driving there. She said the people in her neighborhood were less than strict about obeying the traffic laws.
Now, is my anecdotal evidence as valid as the claim of the black military veteran?
I don't want to call the black veteran a liar, but the evidence from the studies clearly showed that black drivers commit a far higher percentage of  traffic violations than drivers of all other ethnicities. That is why they're stopped more.
Which leads me to the question: are blacks actually aware of how many laws they break (traffic, criminal, and civil) far more than other ethnicities?
Maybe not.

[dfwgator]

Blame Whitey has always worked in the Black Community.

[Free Vulcan]

Because the American black community supports predatory ghetto thug life in just about those proportions. Keep in mind that their Caribbean and African cousins come here and thrive despite experiencing some of the most brutal oppression and destitution on the planet.

That 80 percent of the American black community desires no change in that. They just wish they could loot, steal and grift more that the govt will allow them to do now.

[Fishrrman]

andy wrote above:
"Progressives of the socialist Left have learned that they may succeed in their ambitions not by promoting an agenda, but by controlling the public language.
The chief tactic employed in this effort has been the purposeful and by now, successful redefinition of important words such as "justice", "fairness" and "rights", so as to change public understanding of what they actually mean."

What you said isn't quite reality when it comes to the sensibilities of whites and blacks, Andy.

In "matters racial", we must realize from the get-go something very important:
There is "white truth", and then there is "black truth".

These are two completely contradictory perceptions, but we must understand that they are constructed from -the same- fundamental reality.

Envision if you will, a "racial prism" that has facets that can break apart "reality" in the same manner that an ordinary prism can split apart "white light" into various colorations.

Reality -- "the truth" -- enters the racial prism from the outside.
There is one facet that emits "white truth" (can be seen by whites).
There is another facet that emits "black truth" (can be seen by blacks).

It is most important to comprehend that these different truths are by-products of the SAME reality.

Hence, what is perceived to be a reasonable action by an officer Darryl Wilson to Michael Brown's aggression as viewed through "the white facet" of the prism, is seen as something 180 degrees different as viewed through the black facet.

There seem to be at least -some- blacks who are capable of viewing through the white facet, but their numbers are relatively small -- and indeed may be decreasing as the black population progressively slides down a cultural decline.

The two separate realities -- "white truth" and "black truth" -- are all-but irreconcilable.

They are what they are.

Mark my words, this perceptual divide IS NOT going to close in years to come.
It's going to widen.

[andy58-in-nh]

In "matters racial", we must realize from the get-go something very important:
There is "white truth", and then there is "black truth".

These are two completely contradictory perceptions, but we must understand that they are constructed from -the same- fundamental reality.

Envision if you will, a "racial prism" that has facets that can break apart "reality" in the same manner that an ordinary prism can split apart "white light" into various colorations.

Reality -- "the truth" -- enters the racial prism from the outside.
There is one facet that emits "white truth" (can be seen by whites).
There is another facet that emits "black truth" (can be seen by blacks).

It is most important to comprehend that these different truths are by-products of the SAME reality.

Hence, what is perceived to be a reasonable action by an officer Darryl Wilson to Michael Brown's aggression as viewed through "the white facet" of the prism, is seen as something 180 degrees different as viewed through the black facet.

There seem to be at least -some- blacks who are capable of viewing through the white facet, but their numbers are relatively small -- and indeed may be decreasing as the black population progressively slides down a cultural decline.

The two separate realities -- "white truth" and "black truth" -- are all-but irreconcilable.

It's going to widen.

I appreciate what you are saying here, but the plain truth is that there is only one reality, and it is the same for everyone, existing as it does external to, and not dependent upon our perception.

The reason why black and whites differ so widely on how they see things is what we need to explore. In my view, it has a great deal more to do with culture than it does with either history or ability. 

Preconceptions, or if you will, prejudices color people's judgments in ways that constrict their comprehension into the little channels that they have already carved out in their own minds. The empirical becomes categorical and whatever does not fit those categories is subject to cognitive dissonance. 

All human perception is volitional, a matter of choice. Our vision is not black and white, nor are we ever truly colorblind. In the end, each one of us chooses what to see, or not. 

[SkyKing]

The vast majority of African Americans vote blindly democratic, which strongly supports Planned Parenthood which was founded to eliminate the African American race. And decades and decades the democrats haven't done squat for the blacks. Not surprised that they would support BLM thugs.

[stephen50right]

Because the American black community supports predatory ghetto thug life in just about those proportions. Keep in mind that their Caribbean and African cousins come here and thrive despite experiencing some of the most brutal oppression and destitution on the planet.

That 80 percent of the American black community desires no change in that. They just wish they could loot, steal and grift more that the govt will allow them to do now.

Lot of truth in what you say.

It's been adjudicated, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the "Hands up, don't shoot" narrative was a total fraud and that the so-called eye witnesses were lying. The forensic evidence was crystal clear.

Yet the NFL protests stemmed from this lie and BLM continues to perpetrate it. They all know it's a bald faced lie, yet they continue on with it anyway. And trial lawyers managed to extort 1.5 million dollars from the taxpayers to give to the family of Michael Brown. Leftists at work.

[mystery-ak]

The vast majority of African Americans vote blindly democratic, which strongly supports Planned Parenthood which was founded to eliminate the African American race. And decades and decades the democrats haven't done squat for the blacks. Not surprised that they would support BLM thugs.

Exactly...little by little some are seeing the light but not quickly enough.

btw Welcome to TBR!

[goatprairie]

andy wrote above:
"Progressives of the socialist Left have learned that they may succeed in their ambitions not by promoting an agenda, but by controlling the public language.
The chief tactic employed in this effort has been the purposeful and by now, successful redefinition of important words such as "justice", "fairness" and "rights", so as to change public understanding of what they actually mean."

What you said isn't quite reality when it comes to the sensibilities of whites and blacks, Andy.

In "matters racial", we must realize from the get-go something very important:
There is "white truth", and then there is "black truth".

These are two completely contradictory perceptions, but we must understand that they are constructed from -the same- fundamental reality.

Envision if you will, a "racial prism" that has facets that can break apart "reality" in the same manner that an ordinary prism can split apart "white light" into various colorations.

Reality -- "the truth" -- enters the racial prism from the outside.
There is one facet that emits "white truth" (can be seen by whites).
There is another facet that emits "black truth" (can be seen by blacks).

It is most important to comprehend that these different truths are by-products of the SAME reality.

Hence, what is perceived to be a reasonable action by an officer Darryl Wilson to Michael Brown's aggression as viewed through "the white facet" of the prism, is seen as something 180 degrees different as viewed through the black facet.

There seem to be at least -some- blacks who are capable of viewing through the white facet, but their numbers are relatively small -- and indeed may be decreasing as the black population progressively slides down a cultural decline.

The two separate realities -- "white truth" and "black truth" -- are all-but irreconcilable.

They are what they are.

Mark my words, this perceptual divide IS NOT going to close in years to come.
It's going to widen.

"Mark my words, this perceptual divide IS NOT going to close in years to come.
It's going to widen"

I agree. I would like both sides  accept reality, but when one side, the black side, refuses to accept reality, what can you do?
If, say, six to ten thousand whites were shot and killed by other whites every year, and the police only shot and killed several hundred whites, the great majority of them resisting arrest or committing a crime, do you think whites would fail to understand who was at fault for getting themselves shot and killed? I think not.
There have been several shootings of whites in my state of Wisconsin by the police in the recent year resulting in the deaths of the white perps/citizens.  There were exactly zero protests about the shootings with no blocking of streets, marches, riots,vandalism,  or other violent behavior.
Most whites accept the fact that if you violently resist the police, you may very well end up dead.
Why can't blacks accept the fact that 99% of the black males who get themselves shot and killed by the police earned their demises? It's truly baffling and mind-boggling.   How can they fail to see that their actions have consequences, and their problems are self-inflicted?

[TomSea]

Bookmarking; every comment is real good.

The only things I'd add on,

Often black Caribbeans, like Cubans, Puerto Ricans, don't seem to perceive this "bigotry" aimed at them. Neither do many Africans whom come over like Kenyans, Nigerians, etc.

Huffington Post ran an article saying "well, the NFL protests are working", anyone can look that up.