Trump: There is no such thing as ObamaCare anymore

[Frank Cannon]

ummm... they are

Vile shrew.

[RoosGirl]

[musiclady]

Why do we need to wait and see about any of it?  Stopping something illegal is perfectly legal.

I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about, @Bigun.

You're being very generous in forgiveness for, and trust in a guy whom I don't think deserves trust.

Let's put it this way............. I'm not so easily convinced that character magically appears because of an election.   Perhaps it has, but I am dubious.

Carry on with your cheering.   Just don't expect me to join you there.   

[INVAR]

“Trump appears to support short-term ObamaCare fix”:

“(CNN)Sens. Lamar Alexander and Patty Murray have reached a deal "in principle" to restore Affordable Care Act cost-sharing reduction payments for two years in exchange for more state flexibility in Obamacare, according to two Senate aides.

One Senate aide said the plan would also restore just over $100 million in funding for Obamacare outreach.”

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/health-care-csr-payments-deal-reached/index.html

Sooo, when Trump says "ObamaCare is Dead, there is no such thing as ObamaCare anymore" - and he supports the Democrat/Liberal Republican "fix" to essentially put ObamaCare on life support - we are supposed to be impressed and call that "Conservative"????


I don't think so.

PT Barnum was right.... so many suckers out there.

[Oceander]

It's TrumpCare, now.

[INVAR]

It's TrumpCare, now.

Once he signs onto whatever salvages the nuts and bolts of Government-mandated health insurance - then YES, I will begin to refer to ObamaCare AS TrumpCare from that moment on.

He and his party will OWN IT all.

Which as I've said - they WANT because the GOP is as eager for Single Payer as Trump and the Democrats are.

[Bigun]

I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about, @Bigun.

You're being very generous in forgiveness for, and trust in a guy whom I don't think deserves trust.

Let's put it this way............. I'm not so easily convinced that character magically appears because of an election.   Perhaps it has, but I am dubious.

Carry on with your cheering.   Just don't expect me to join you there.   

I have not said anything about his character.  All I said is that everything he's done since becoming President has been perfectly legal.

[musiclady]

I have not said anything about his character.  All I said is that everything he's done since becoming President has been perfectly legal.

You said this:

To date I  have NEVER voted for Trump but he overcame that and now definitely IS President of the United States and I am going to cheer when he does the right thing EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Which, to me, sounds like "cheering," and I'm not that generous.   But that's OK.

We're allowed to disagree once in a while.   

[Bigun]

You said this:

Which, to me, sounds like "cheering," and I'm not that generous.   But that's OK.

We're allowed to disagree once in a while.   

Yes we are!  But I STILL have not said a single word about his character!   
 

[musiclady]

Yes we are!  But I STILL have not said a single word about his character!   

That's the fundamental difference in our POV's, Bigun.

You're able to cheer someone because of what he did, but for me character permeates everything about a person, and when one is without it, I am unable to cheer.

Tis ever thus.......   

[DiogenesLamp]

Where is that moderator that shuts down threads when they get  boring?   

[RoosGirl]

Where is that moderator that shuts down threads when they get  boring?

If you'd stop being boring you wouldn't have to worry about it.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

If you'd stop being boring you wouldn't have to worry about it.

When it gets dull the voices in my head insert "Trebek!" into you and Frank's posts and play them for me in the fake Sean Connery voice.

[musiclady]

Where is that moderator that shuts down threads when they get  boring?

Here's a hint.

If you don't like the conversation (as I know you don't when there is discussion of Trump's lack of character), then just click on "Mark as read" and go someplace where you can bloviate about how wonderful he is.

OR.......... just bloviate HERE about his marvellousness, and make the thread more interesting, in your inestimable view.... 

[The_Reader_David]

The second part I agree with.

The first part, we'll have to wait and see about.  When a guy doesn't know the law, obeying it is purely accidental.

And we both know he doesn't know.

The unconstitutionality of the payments is actually also clear:  the executive is to execute the laws passed by Congress.  If it was illegal for them to do something because of lack of statutory authority, it was also unconstitutional.

[XenaLee]

Soo.... is it TrumpCare now?   Or rather... ChumpCare.

Trump tinkering with ObamaCare will only make the failure his and the stain of failure will spread to the entire GOP.... quite deservedly so, I might add.

[INVAR]

The unconstitutionality of the payments is actually also clear:  the executive is to execute the laws passed by Congress.  If it was illegal for them to do something because of lack of statutory authority, it was also unconstitutional.

It is only 'unConstitutional' if those charged with actually upholding the Constitution do something about lawlessness.

If they accept lawlessness as 'Constitutional' (which they have all done) then the precedent is now permanently established that the Constitution itself is already irrelevant, and illegality is only when the rulers say it is illegal, and lawful only when the corrupt say it is lawful.

Welcome to the Banana.

[Silver Pines]

I used to have lots of problems. There was a time where I actually picked Pespi on a Pepsi Challenge. It was so embarrassing.....then I found Scientology.

@Frank Cannon

Oh, Scientology, huh?  So "picking up a rent check from a deadbeat" is code for chasing some poor sucker down for his contribution to the cult.  I see now...

[Silver Pines]

ummm... they are

@RoosGirl

POINT

[Frank Cannon]

@Frank Cannon

Oh, Scientology, huh?  So "picking up a rent check from a deadbeat" is code for chasing some poor sucker down for his contribution to the cult.  I see now...

@CatherineofAragon

No. You have it wrong. I pick of rent from deadbeats so I can hand it to the church. Auditing ain't cheap.