Trump: There is no such thing as ObamaCare anymore

[RoosGirl]

Good grief ... you should know better than to call him a liar!  The only one that lies is Ted!  Obviously what Trumps says and what he means could be two different things (still). Someone posted a link providing info that the penalties are still in existence. I myself went to the website to see for myself if there was an enrollment period still available ... maybe I was mistaken and just went into a pretend website that has Obamacare that doesn't exist. 

Hey, did you know Ted Cruz was born in Canada?

If @Frank Cannon is correct that the forms have been changed to show the reporting of coverage as optional, that is the proof I am looking for.  I would not put it past the government to either keep enrollment open and make people believe it was required even if the IRS forms say it is optional -or- close the enrollment and still have the IRS forms show it is required.

[libertybele]

Hey, did you know Ted Cruz was born in Canada?

If @Frank Cannon is correct that the forms have been changed to show the reporting of coverage as optional, that is the proof I am looking for.  I would not put it past the government to either keep enrollment open and make people believe it was required even if the IRS forms say it is optional -or- close the enrollment and still have the IRS forms show it is required.

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2017/02/on_trumps_order_irs_stops_enfo.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/15/irs-wont-reject-tax-returns-if-they-do-not-include-obamacare-disclosures.html

Abolish the IRS period.  That will make everyone's life much easier!

[DB]

Just the president picking and choosing what laws will be enforced... Full steam ahead to banana republicville... It's okay now because Obama did it... So there's no need to return to the constitution or anything... Its only fair...

[Frank Cannon]

Hey, did you know Ted Cruz was born in Canada?

If @Frank Cannon is correct...

@RoosGirl

Listen baby, I'm always correct. Don't insult me with "If".

[RoosGirl]

@RoosGirl

Listen baby, I'm always correct. Don't insult me with "If".

Show it off then, Mister.  Give us a link to the current form with "optional" in the insurance reporting line.

[Bigun]

The fact that he has no Constitutional right to do so doesn't bother you??

He has every right to undo the unconstitutionally mess Obama made using th e same tools Obama used to make it!

And I thank God for the fact that he is doing so!

[Concerned]

“Trump appears to support short-term ObamaCare fix”:

“(CNN)Sens. Lamar Alexander and Patty Murray have reached a deal "in principle" to restore Affordable Care Act cost-sharing reduction payments for two years in exchange for more state flexibility in Obamacare, according to two Senate aides.

One Senate aide said the plan would also restore just over $100 million in funding for Obamacare outreach.”

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/health-care-csr-payments-deal-reached/index.html

[XenaLee]

“Trump appears to support short-term ObamaCare fix”:

“(CNN)Sens. Lamar Alexander and Patty Murray have reached a deal "in principle" to restore Affordable Care Act cost-sharing reduction payments for two years in exchange for more state flexibility in Obamacare, according to two Senate aides.

One Senate aide said the plan would also restore just over $100 million in funding for Obamacare outreach.”

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/17/politics/health-care-csr-payments-deal-reached/index.html

Levin is talking about this right now.  He's basically going "WTF???".

[musiclady]

He has every right to undo the unconstitutionally mess Obama made using th e same tools Obama used to make it!

And I thank God for the fact that he is doing so!

I might quibble about that reasoning.......... that undoing illegal with illegal is just fine, but my problem (as it has been since the beginning) is that Trump believes in government controlled health care, and doesn't have any inner principles to keep him going on this.

I know people think I'm unfair by continuing to bring it up, but when you elect a President with nary a Conservative principle in his body, mind or soul, you might get a bone now and again, but there's nothing you can count on because there's nothing there to build your confidence on.

I appreciate your optimism, considering that I know you ARE a principled conservative, but I just don't share it.

[Frank Cannon]

He has every right to undo the unconstitutionally mess Obama made using th e same tools Obama used to make it!

And I thank God for the fact that he is doing so!

Amen Brother!!!

[Frank Cannon]

I might quibble about that reasoning.......... that undoing illegal with illegal is just fine, but my problem (as it has been since the beginning) is that Trump believes in government controlled health care, and doesn't have any inner principles to keep him going on this.

Donny may also believe in Martians, but it doesn't matter because he doesn't act on it. Be grateful that there is a guy in office who is pulling apart Obamacare to the point that it is essentially finished.

BTW, in what alternate reality do politicians have inner principals other than getting reelected? There are none in this reality.

[aligncare]

Just the president picking and choosing what laws will be enforced... Full steam ahead to banana republicville... It's okay now because Obama did it... So there's no need to return to the constitution or anything... Its only fair...

There’s so many of you who take a similar stance against Trump in what appears to many as simple, intense, dislike for him. And I guess too, strong policy disagreements with him, though it’d be nice to hear more than just “banana republic”. Some why’s and how’s and wherefores would go a long way.

Anyway, I get tempted to take on statements like yours but then I think why? It’s just a minority opinion and then I’d have to do it again and again and again with the next NeverTrump.

What a moniker, NeverTrump. Defined by what they’re not, can’t get past emotion to see what constitutional actions the president has taken so far in office. But it’s okay, that’s their privilege to have in the soon to be, Banana Republic of America.   

[Bigun]

I might quibble about that reasoning.......... that undoing illegal with illegal is just fine, but my problem (as it has been since the beginning) is that Trump believes in government controlled health care, and doesn't have any inner principles to keep him going on this.

I know people think I'm unfair by continuing to bring it up, but when you elect a President with nary a Conservative principle in his body, mind or soul, you might get a bone now and again, but there's nothing you can count on because there's nothing there to build your confidence on.

I appreciate your optimism, considering that I know you ARE a principled conservative, but I just don't share it.

Except for the fact that he is undoing illegal with perfectly legal you might have an argument.   The payments Trump stopped to insurance companies were both unconstitutional and illegal under the Obamacare law itself.

[musiclady]

Donny may also believe in Martians, but it doesn't matter because he doesn't act on it. Be grateful that there is a guy in office who is pulling apart Obamacare to the point that it is essentially finished.

BTW, in what alternate reality do politicians have inner principals other than getting reelected? There are none in this reality.

Though I am not as optimistic as Bigun about political reality, I am not as pessimistic as you.

I still believe that there are people of character who want to, or are running for office, and I still believe that there are principles worth standing up for.

I think that's where you and I differ, Frank, and why you make fun of me.

No biggie.  I can handle it. 

[musiclady]

Except for the fact that he is undoing illegal with perfectly legal you might have an argument.   The payments Trump stopped to insurance companies were both unconstitutional and illegal under the Obamacare law itself.

The second part I agree with.

The first part, we'll have to wait and see about.  When a guy doesn't know the law, obeying it is purely accidental.

And we both know he doesn't know.

[Bigun]

The second part I agree with.

The first part, we'll have to wait and see about.  When a guy doesn't know the law, obeying it is purely accidental.

And we both know he doesn't know.

Why do we need to wait and see about any of it?  Stopping something illegal is perfectly legal.

[RoosGirl]

There’s so many of you who take a similar stance against Trump in what appears to many as simple, intense, dislike for him. And I guess too, strong policy disagreements with him, though it’d be nice to hear more than just “banana republic”. Some why’s and how’s and wherefores would go a long way.

Anyway, I get tempted to take on statements like yours but then I think why? It’s just a minority opinion and then I’d have to do it again and again and again with the next NeverTrump.

What a moniker, NeverTrump. Defined by what they’re not, can’t get past emotion to see what constitutional actions the president has taken so far in office. But it’s okay, that’s their privilege to take in the soon to be, Banana Republic of America.   

I always took the term as Never(gonna vote for)Trump, not the Rick Astley type of Never Gonna that covers a lot of other possibilities.

[Bigun]

I always took the term as Never(gonna vote for)Trump, not the Rick Astley type of Never Gonna that covers a lot of other possibilities.

To date I  have NEVER voted for Trump but he overcame that and now definitely IS President of the United States and I am going to cheer when he does the right thing EVERY SINGLE TIME!

[RoosGirl]

To date I  have NEVER voted for Trump but he overcame that and now definitely IS President of the United States and I am going to cheer when he does the right thing EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Okay.

[RoosGirl]

IRS Softens On Obamacare Reporting Requirements After Trump Executive Order

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2017/02/16/irs-softens-on-obamacare-reporting-requirements-after-trump-executive-order/#3ddabc27a3cb

I stand corrected, for 2017 anyway.  I'm surprised the Koskinen jackass would agree to this.

[Silver Pines]

Levin is talking about this right now.  He's basically going "WTF???".

@XenaLee

I used to think Levin was smart.

[Frank Cannon]

@XenaLee

I used to think Levin was smart.

I used to think I Can't Believe It's Not Butter tasted like butter.

[Silver Pines]

I used to think I Can't Believe It's Not Butter tasted like butter.

@Frank Cannon

Wth is wrong with you?  I thought your taste buds would be as sophisticated as everything else about you.

[Frank Cannon]

@Frank Cannon

Wth is wrong with you?  I thought your taste buds would be as sophisticated as everything else about you.

I used to have lots of problems. There was a time where I actually picked Pespi on a Pepsi Challenge. It was so embarrassing.....then I found Scientology.

[RoosGirl]

@Frank Cannon

Wth is wrong with you?  I thought your taste buds would be as sophisticated as everything else about you.

ummm... they are