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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #575 on: October 18, 2017, 08:40:26 pm »
Thanks for this post.  It's what disturbs me about some (not all, but some) of the Pro-Trump folks...they are out for revenge, and I don't like that as a motivator.  Someone who would gleefully take revenge on a leftist will equally take revenge on people who are on the same side.  It's caustic.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #576 on: October 18, 2017, 08:42:05 pm »
Thanks for this post.  It's what disturbs me about some (not all, but some) of the Pro-Trump folks...they are out for revenge, and I don't like that as a motivator.  Someone who would gleefully take revenge on a leftist will equally take revenge on people who are on the same side.  It's caustic.


I can't speak for others,  but "revenge"  is not a prime motivating factor for me.   I  am content to let them alone if I could believe that they will leave me alone. 

Alas,  I am utterly convinced that "leaving me alone"  is not in their nature,  and so I will have to advocate dealing with them before they can deal with us. 


Does anyone here believe that we can go about our lives without the left continuing to attack us? 


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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #577 on: October 18, 2017, 08:50:50 pm »
So, what's the sound of a Jane Fonda one-hand Clap?
I wouldn't want the clap from her, I don't care how many hands she used.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #578 on: October 18, 2017, 08:51:42 pm »


I keep trying to have conversations about how we badly need to smash the Democrat propaganda system,   but too many people can't seem to grasp the threat that it poses.   


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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #579 on: October 18, 2017, 08:54:55 pm »
@DiogenesLamp

Having a serious conversation on this forum is next to impossible but I'm sure you've noticed that already.

I was going to give you a thumbs up for this .... but it doesn't seem to fit the sentiment.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #580 on: October 18, 2017, 08:59:22 pm »
Thanks for this post.  It's what disturbs me about some (not all, but some) of the Pro-Trump folks...they are out for revenge, and I don't like that as a motivator.  Someone who would gleefully take revenge on a leftist will equally take revenge on people who are on the same side.  It's caustic.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #581 on: October 18, 2017, 09:00:03 pm »
I was going to give you a thumbs up for this .... but it doesn't seem to fit the sentiment.


There’s never a third-digit salute emoji around here when you need one.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #582 on: October 18, 2017, 09:00:58 pm »

I can't speak for others,  but "revenge"  is not a prime motivating factor for me.   I  am content to let them alone if I could believe that they will leave me alone. 

Alas,  I am utterly convinced that "leaving me alone"  is not in their nature,  and so I will have to advocate dealing with them before they can deal with us. 


Does anyone here believe that we can go about our lives without the left continuing to attack us?

This one sure as hell doesn't!
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #583 on: October 18, 2017, 09:02:21 pm »
What I  want is my country back and will do whatever I can to get it back!

Yep. Like Goldwater said of extremism in the defense of liberty. It ain’t no vice.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #584 on: October 18, 2017, 09:02:25 pm »

There’s never a third-digit salute emoji around here when you need one.

I was going to give @Bigun a thumbs-up in agreement---but the thumbs-up seemed too celebratory for his comment about the forum.

Although I do agree a third digit salute emoji would be helpful---if not overused.   :laugh:

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #585 on: October 18, 2017, 09:11:41 pm »
I wouldn't want the clap from her, I don't care how many hands she used.

I love ya, Joe.  You always get my jokes....  :laugh:
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #586 on: October 18, 2017, 09:12:40 pm »
Unless you're a GD Commie, you have nothing to worry about.    :laugh:

You've always been in the "not some" part of my comment....  :beer:
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #587 on: October 18, 2017, 09:13:39 pm »
Wait one cotton picking minute. Trump never got down and dirty until he started getting punched.
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And when it did start raining down on him in earnest, it came from every direction. He had to fight back. Luckily, that’s in his wheel house. If he hadn’t fought back so adeptly, and against overwhelming opposition, odds were we would be talking about an asterisk today instead of President Trump.
That post is such egregious revisionism it defies response.  **nononono* What a pile.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #588 on: October 18, 2017, 09:16:34 pm »

I can't speak for others,  but "revenge"  is not a prime motivating factor for me.   I  am content to let them alone if I could believe that they will leave me alone. 

Alas,  I am utterly convinced that "leaving me alone"  is not in their nature,  and so I will have to advocate dealing with them before they can deal with us. 


Does anyone here believe that we can go about our lives without the left continuing to attack us?

You don't seem like you're out for revenge, either.  There are a few people I talk to here who are positively delighted at the prospect of "getting even," and I think that's not such a good motivator.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #589 on: October 18, 2017, 09:19:59 pm »


I keep trying to have conversations about how we badly need to smash the Democrat propaganda system,   but too many people can't seem to grasp the threat that it poses.   


Media delenda est.
Fine with me. Get rid of both propaganda systems and let the actions of those in office speak for themselves. Oh wait. Listen...

>crickets<
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #590 on: October 18, 2017, 09:22:48 pm »
*****rollingeyes*****
That post is such egregious revisionism it defies response.  **nononono* What a pile.

Thanks!   Saved me the trouble!   :beer:
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #591 on: October 18, 2017, 09:24:54 pm »
I wouldn't want the clap from her, I don't care how many hands she used.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #592 on: October 18, 2017, 09:35:24 pm »

Revenge?   When one sees a horde of barbarians posed on the edge of civilization,  one does not need "revenge"  to realize they need to be bashed.   


Revenge is fine,  but prevention is better.   I want them bashed because they need to be bashed,  not because they have done me wrong.    I want them bashed mainly for what they *will* do,  not what they have done,  though to be fair,  they deserve being bashed for that as well.   






Seems to have worked out pretty well.   






Well it's been walking around like a zombie for about 3 decades now,  so I guess it is about time to dig it a grave and let you throw dirt on it. 


Oh,  and I had nothing to do with killing it.   It moved with the speed and energy of a sloth,  and so it's enemies beat it to death.   


Those are the enemies I want bashed,  so perhaps you can enjoy a little revenge when we've set about doing it.   :)

What "worked well" was completing the task of destroying the Republican party and dinging up conservatism so that it might not survive.

As for the "we" who have "set about doing it"............ PLEASE tell me you don't actually believe what Trump is doing (and your cheerleading for him on this forum) is actually accomplishing anything for Conservatism!  *****rollingeyes*****

Trump, by responding like a child and bashing the media and the left in the manner of a 12 year old child is "accomplishing" NOTHING for Conservatism.

It is anger that elected him, and it is anger sustaining him as he makes a fool of you all.

Other than venting and screeching, nothing has been accomplished since he was elected.

But you're clearly proud of yourself, so I guess for you, that's all that counts.....
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #593 on: October 18, 2017, 09:38:50 pm »
What I  want is my country back and will do whatever I can to get it back!

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #594 on: October 18, 2017, 09:41:46 pm »
What "worked well" was completing the task of destroying the Republican party and dinging up conservatism so that it might not survive.

As for the "we" who have "set about doing it"............ PLEASE tell me you don't actually believe what Trump is doing (and your cheerleading for him on this forum) is actually accomplishing anything for Conservatism!  *****rollingeyes*****

Trump, by responding like a child and bashing the media and the left in the manner of a 12 year old child is "accomplishing" NOTHING for Conservatism.

It is anger that elected him, and it is anger sustaining him as he makes a fool of you all.

Other than venting and screeching, nothing has been accomplished since he was elected.

But you're clearly proud of yourself, so I guess for you, that's all that counts.....

I respectfully submit that you are quite wrong in saying "Trump is accomplishing NOTHING for conservatism" .  His court  appointments alone give the lie to that IMHO.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #595 on: October 18, 2017, 09:43:36 pm »
Other than venting and screeching, nothing has been accomplished since he was elected.

Hmmm... it appears you missed the thesis of this very thread.  Let me repost it for you @musiclady --- and remind you also that this is a partial list:

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1. Put Justice Gorsuch on the Supreme Court.
2. Ended DACA and the used it as a bargaining chip for better Border enforcement and a wall.
3. Exited the Paris Agreement.
4. Brought down NAFTA and reset for a new negotiation across the board.it.
5. Ended Obamacare insurance subsidies of over 7 billion dollars.
6. Deeply cut government regulation.
7. Nominated large numbers of Conservative justices to the Federal courts.
8. Decertified the Iran deal.
9. Stood up to NFL players disrespecting the anthem, flag and our national identity.
10. Proposed deep cuts in Corporate tax rates across the board.
11. Proposed deep cuts in taxes for the middle class.
12. Waged war against grotesque liberal media bias.
13. Imposed immigration limits on terror risk nations and fought for them in the courts.
14. Set the Justice Department and the admin to oppose "Sanctuary" cities.
15. Allowed private companies/insurers to NOT provide abortion coverage against their own moral views.
16. Opposed hysterical calls for strong new gun control legislation following the Vegas shooting.
17. Advocated for increased defense spending and revitalization in particular of our decaying naval forces.
18. Supported police and law enforcement at every turn against groups like ANTIFA and BLM.
19. Called consistently for protection of the unborn, and supporting a strict post 20 week ban on abortions.
20. Fought for new legislation, even if congress failed in its part, to repeal Obamacare.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #596 on: October 18, 2017, 09:49:08 pm »
I respectfully submit that you are quite wrong in saying "Trump is accomplishing NOTHING for conservatism" .  His court  appointments alone give the lie to that IMHO.

I hesitated with the word "nothing," but as of yet, have there been any decisions going our way because of him, and if not is that actually an "accomplishment."

As others have said.... we'll have to wait and see about the accomplishment part of it.

btw, I disagree with your statement that there are no serious conversations here.

There are many.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #597 on: October 18, 2017, 09:53:16 pm »
I hesitated with the word "nothing," but as of yet, have there been any decisions going our way because of him, and if not is that actually an "accomplishment."

As others have said.... we'll have to wait and see about the accomplishment part of it.

btw, I disagree with your statement that there are no serious conversations here.

There are many.


Yeah!  Until they get cut off midstream by an overzealous mod or someone who doesn't like the subject of the discussion starts posting meaningless garbage that takes it completely off track.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #598 on: October 18, 2017, 09:54:56 pm »
Trump has already implemented a lot of things per social conservative issues, cutting regulations and red tape, respect for freedom of religion. Besides his court nominees, I am fully grateful.

Trump has helped conservatism, many people did not expect him to win.

2008 was a blow out of Republicans.

Trump has done well. If people don't like him, fine, but my vote certainly was not wasted.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #599 on: October 18, 2017, 09:55:57 pm »
Really ... so populism can't be conservative?   Fascinating. 


         

Nope, populism is antithetical to a constitutional republic.