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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #525 on: October 18, 2017, 06:20:54 pm »
We know what you did. So why not just have Jane Fonda clapping as well if only some clapping GIF matters, not the real person.

Because I don't happen to have one of those handy! 

You carry on trying to change the Republican party from within!  Hopefully you will have more success with that than I did!
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #526 on: October 18, 2017, 06:21:10 pm »
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Honestly, have today's conservatives no memory?  When did "populist" become such a dirty word? 

Ronald Reagan was the quintessential populist---this is what gave birth to all those "Reagan democrats". 




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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #527 on: October 18, 2017, 06:25:59 pm »
Honestly, have today's conservatives no memory?  When did "populist" become such a dirty word? 

Ronald Reagan was the quintessential populist---this is what gave birth to all those "Reagan democrats". 

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Consider who posted it.   Hates Trump.

Riding on the coattails of McCain's "spurious populism", no doubt. 
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #528 on: October 18, 2017, 06:34:16 pm »
Really ... so populism can't be conservative?   Fascinating. 


         

 I think she means Trump can’t be considered conservative because, well, you know, it’s Trump. I hope I didn’t misstate that but that’s how it appears to this humble servant of Lord Trump.  :silly:

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #529 on: October 18, 2017, 06:38:05 pm »
It's sad that Trump himself pissesd on that "11th Commandment" from the moment he announced he was running...as did the blind followers who went out and engaged in a scorched earth policy against anyone who didn't fall in line and march in lockstep to the Ttrump dogma.

I'll give ya that one - Trump did do that. But after Trump received the nomination, he was as cordial as could be towards all the beaten Republican candidates. Sadly, Trump did not get a friendly congrats from some of them, and so Trump responded in kind.

You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #530 on: October 18, 2017, 06:44:51 pm »
Your party is no longer the party that Reagan represented.  It is not even a shadow of that party.

And you should know, I will do more than speak ill of your party.  I am going to live up to being 'the enemy' your compatriots declared me to be for daring to criticize your prince and refusing to vote for the one decreed to be our political savior.   

I'm working to get as many Conservatives to dump your failed party and get them into something new.

I do not vote for liberals or lifelong liberal Democrats masquerading as Conservatives in any party EVER.  It made not a whit's worth of difference to me whether Clinton or Trump sat on the throne.  I saw them as one and the same.

Oh yes.  His Twitter rants are paragons of virtue for healthy 'political discourse'.    What an ultra maroon!

Well, the shaming and death threats from your fellows that I vote the way you demanded was ignored by my person and family.  Perhaps next time you will want to put guns to our heads and make sure we vote the way you demand?

That Commandment was nullified in total in my estimation when Mitch McConnell looked at us at the Fancy Farm picnic, told us Tea Party Conservatives supporting Bevin to shut up, sit down or get Punched in the nose".  The amount of vitriol your party leadership spewed upon Conservatives in the Republican Party showcased that the 11th Commandment was rescinded by the Establishment and only applies to the grassroots towards the rulers of the party.  Trump himself has shown us that this "commandment" no longer applies.

So pound sand pal.  I plan on speaking ill of your party and it's leaders.  Your party is just another arm of the Statist Democrats.

And my mission is to help as many people take off their blinders to see it as such and get them into something new.

<<< I'm working to get as many Conservatives to dump your failed party and get them into something new. >>>

Far be it for me to discourage you, but if the Tea Party movement, as strong as that is, didn't splinter off from the Republican Party by now, then I sincerely doubt that anything you're thinking of would be successful.

But i like your determination, and good luck.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #531 on: October 18, 2017, 06:45:09 pm »
I'll give ya that one - Trump did do that. But after Trump received the nomination, he was as cordial as could be towards all the beaten Republican candidates. Sadly, Trump did not get a friendly congrats from some of them, and so Trump responded in kind.

You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?

I will admit no such thing!  The party lost a man who had faithfully worked in the trenches for it for over 40 years at that convention and HE ain't comin back!
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #532 on: October 18, 2017, 06:45:54 pm »
I think she means Trump can’t be considered conservative because, well, you know, it’s Trump. ....

Yes, I know.  And it's still wrong.  I am weary of watching history being rewritten because snowflakes have not finished melting.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #533 on: October 18, 2017, 06:46:10 pm »
You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?

Oh, you mean the World Wide Wrestling theatrics Trump performed by marching onto the Convention floor during Cruz' speech?

He was and is nothing but a NY Liberal Democrat Circus Act to me, and that stunt solidified that fact for me.

Just another variation on this:

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #534 on: October 18, 2017, 06:50:50 pm »
<<< I'm working to get as many Conservatives to dump your failed party and get them into something new. >>>

Far be it for me to discourage you, but if the Tea Party movement, as strong as that is, didn't splinter off from the Republican Party by now, then I sincerely doubt that anything you're thinking of would be successful.

But i like your determination, and good luck.
Obviously you have no comprehension about how institutionalized corruption actually works.

But in fairness, unless you were a GOP Precinct Captain from Cook County, IL - you might not have any idea about how corruption and cronyism operates.

You will not be able to 'change' the GOP from its decent into Socialist Statism.  Instead, you will be changed by it - as so many of us are witness to longtime party-before-everything types surrender what they paid lip service to all these years.


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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #535 on: October 18, 2017, 06:51:42 pm »
He was and is nothing but a NY Liberal Democrat Circus Act to me, and that stunt solidified that fact for me. 

Get over yourself.   9999hair out0000

Only then will you be able to appreciate the conservative successes our President is piling up.   

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #536 on: October 18, 2017, 06:51:45 pm »
Honestly, have today's conservatives no memory?  When did "populist" become such a dirty word? 

Ronald Reagan was the quintessential populist---this is what gave birth to all those "Reagan democrats". 




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Exactly right, and I don't think they were widely called "Trump Democrats" but Trump brought the same group into the Republican Party fold, good enough to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin which won us the election.

In 2020, Trump will no doubt keep and expand on that group, as well as expand on black votes which is why I think right now he is basically a lock to win in 2020. And the Democratic Party knows there is little they can do about it with their total lack of talent.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #537 on: October 18, 2017, 06:55:26 pm »

You couldn't have gotten better than we got.   There was no "better"  that would have won.   You could only have gotten a lot worse than what we got.

Pretty much the same so far.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #538 on: October 18, 2017, 06:57:58 pm »
We know what you did. So why not just have Jane Fonda clapping as well if only some clapping GIF matters, not the real person.

So, what's the sound of a Jane Fonda one-hand Clap?
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #539 on: October 18, 2017, 06:59:10 pm »
Obviously you have no comprehension about how institutionalized corruption actually works.

But in fairness, unless you were a GOP Precinct Captain from Cook County, IL - you might not have any idea about how corruption and cronyism operates.

You will not be able to 'change' the GOP from its decent into Socialist Statism.  Instead, you will be changed by it - as so many of us are witness to longtime party-before-everything types surrender what they paid lip service to all these years.

I don't figure most if not almost all Tea Party folks, I am one of them, as being naive enough to agree with your basic points.

Again, good luck. However I have no idea where you are going to get your base from to start a new party that would gather more than 1 or 2 percent of the national vote at best, and certainly no electoral votes. Ross Perot, as strong as he was, received over 19 million votes but didn't get a single electoral vote. And the electoral college is all that matters for electing a POTUS.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #540 on: October 18, 2017, 06:59:59 pm »
Get over yourself.   9999hair out0000

Only then will you be able to appreciate the conservative successes our President is piling up.

Like that comment is going to change my mind about him?

In truth - it is people like you whom have actually done more to drive me into militant opposition to your prince and his party than just his own buffoonery and stupidity alone.

So pat yourself on the back because I will credit you and your ilk with driving more people from your party than Trump himself.

In addition, I'll likely wait until long after his term in office to evaluate whether or not anything he has done can be considered 'Conservative successes'.

Because Trump is not, nor never was a Conservative - despite what you so desperately want to loft upon him as your savior.

You people made me an 'enemy' by your own declarations since last year.

I intend to live up to the charge.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #541 on: October 18, 2017, 07:01:39 pm »
I'll give ya that one - Trump did do that. But after Trump received the nomination, he was as cordial as could be towards all the beaten Republican candidates. Sadly, Trump did not get a friendly congrats from some of them, and so Trump responded in kind.

You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?

Ted Cruz was not one BIT out of line at the Convention.

And he had a lot of us (now former) Republican Conservatives cheering madly at home.

In fact, it was the boos of the leftist Trump brigade at the Convention that sealed for me that I could no longer participate in such a principle-less party.

And I've never looked back.   A party that can nominate Trump is not a party I can associate with.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #542 on: October 18, 2017, 07:05:19 pm »
Honestly, have today's conservatives no memory?  When did "populist" become such a dirty word? 

Ronald Reagan was the quintessential populist---this is what gave birth to all those "Reagan democrats". 




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You seem to be the one with no memory on this issue.

Reagan was not a populist.  He was a Conservative in every sense of the word.

You don't get to rewrite history so you can try to compare him favorably to Lord Orange.

Here let me spell it out for you since you don't seem to have the sense to know the difference between populism and conservatism.

Populism

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Populism is a mode of political communication that is based on contrasts between the "common man" or "the people" and a real or imagined group of "privileged elites", traditionally scapegoating or making a folk devil of the latter. Populists can fall anywhere on the traditional left–right political spectrum of politics, and often portray both bourgeois capitalists and socialist organizers as unfairly dominating the political sphere.


Conservatism:

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Major priorities within American conservatism include support for tradition, law-and-order, Christianity, anti-communism, and a defense of "Western civilization from the challenges of modernist culture and totalitarian governments." Economic conservatives and libertarians favor small government, low taxes, limited regulation, and free enterprise. Some social conservatives see traditional social values threatened by secularism, so they support school prayer and oppose abortion and homosexuality.



Here's what Reagan was and why he eventually got elected in the two biggest landslide victories in the history of the U.S.

It's called "A Time For Choosing"  Might wanna watch it before you go accusing Reagan of being a populist.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY


He most certainly wasn't populist and when he ran for President he didn't steal someone elses campaign slogan and try to say it was his original idea.



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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #543 on: October 18, 2017, 07:05:39 pm »
Because I don't happen to have one of those handy! 

You carry on trying to change the Republican party from within!  Hopefully you will have more success with that than I did!

I know you worked far harder than I did, @Bigun , but after years of trying to steer the party right, I determined that the task was hopeless.

The fact that people here claiming to be doing the same are also cheerleaders for Trump makes me realize that the Party no longer wants any form of Conservatism in it..

And because of that, it will implode.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #544 on: October 18, 2017, 07:10:09 pm »
I'll give ya that one - Trump did do that. But after Trump received the nomination, he was as cordial as could be towards all the beaten Republican candidates. Sadly, Trump did not get a friendly congrats from some of them, and so Trump responded in kind.

You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?

Wait one cotton picking minute. Trump never got down and dirty until he started getting punched. And when it did start raining down on him in earnest, it came from every direction. He had to fight back. Luckily, that’s in his wheel house. If he hadn’t fought back so adeptly, and against overwhelming opposition, odds were we would be talking about an asterisk today instead of President Trump.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #545 on: October 18, 2017, 07:10:30 pm »
I think she means Trump can’t be considered conservative because, well, you know, it’s Trump. I hope I didn’t misstate that but that’s how it appears to this humble servant of Lord Trump.  :silly:

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That's exactly what she meant.   An acid-reflux reaction to President Trump.


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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #546 on: October 18, 2017, 07:12:54 pm »
And somewhere along the line, you have become a Crusader for a populist personality, and not conservatism.


In the manner that if Conservatism is using a tree to bash our enemies,   I have become a crusader for trees. 


I am for enemy bashing,  and not particular about the sort of weapon we use to do it so long as it achieves the result of getting the enemy bashed. 



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« Reply #547 on: October 18, 2017, 07:13:43 pm »
Exactly right, and I don't think they were widely called "Trump Democrats" but Trump brought the same group into the Republican Party fold, good enough to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin which won us the election.

In 2020, Trump will no doubt keep and expand on that group, as well as expand on black votes which is why I think right now he is basically a lock to win in 2020. And the Democratic Party knows there is little they can do about it with their total lack of talent.

It perfectly explains the blatant 24/7 "HATE POTUS TRUMP" on all the alphabets and cable channels.  And as of late, the phony outrage over the fallen soldier's family and the taken out of context meaning to his words and intentions.

It's "Hands up, Don't Shoot" redux.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #548 on: October 18, 2017, 07:18:06 pm »
Really ... so populism can't be conservative?   Fascinating. 


         

No, but Conservatism can be popular.

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« Reply #549 on: October 18, 2017, 07:21:39 pm »
I'll give ya that one - Trump did do that. But after Trump received the nomination, he was as cordial as could be towards all the beaten Republican candidates. Sadly, Trump did not get a friendly congrats from some of them, and so Trump responded in kind.


You repeatedly call a man a liar,  mock a man's wife and accuse his father of having something to do with the Kennedy assassination,   and you expect cordial relations afterward?   

In times past,  there would be bloodshed over what was said. 




You must admit...Ted Cruz was a bit out of line with his speech at the convention, and he got roundly booed for it. What was Trump supposed to do, hug him right after that?


Ted Cruz was not out of line.   The people who were out of line were the ones expecting Cruz to do anything more than support the party that had treated him so shabbily.   


Trump refrained from using the nasty tactics on Cruz until it was clear that he wasn't going to beat Cruz unless he did.    For the longest time Trump and Cruz were very cordial to each other,  but that all changed when Trump launched the "Lying Ted" meme,  which his followers immediately repeated ad nauseum like trained clapping seals. 


I actually expected Trump to do this,   but I was still disappointed when he did.  I had hoped that the two candidates could carry on their campaigns without having to get nasty at each other,  but that was a forlorn hope.   


To Cruz's credit,  he has put the interests of the country ahead of his all too understandable grudge against Trump.   
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