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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #350 on: October 17, 2017, 04:21:54 pm »
It started with a link on Drudge to Whitewater and a few of us Clinton haters went there and the day it officially became Free Republic, I signed up.


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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #351 on: October 17, 2017, 04:25:48 pm »
@DCPatriot

And yours either if I may be so bold as to say so!



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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #352 on: October 17, 2017, 04:29:27 pm »
Oh please.  The Republican Party handed Obama his entire agenda on a silver platter with gold spoons while telling Conservatives to shut up and get out of their party.

So you can cram the sentiments.  We're not buying them anymore.

Your party is as corrupt, evil and Statist as the Democrat Party is, if not moreso.

And I'm done being their bitch.

No sentiments at all here.

Good luck searching for a "perfect political party" - it doesn't exist and never will. I guess having a king is the closest there could be to that, and if you recall, we got rid of a king in 1776.

Like it or not, the parties evolved from the way our Founding Fathers set up our country. If you can think of a better way to do it, please let us know.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #353 on: October 17, 2017, 04:32:44 pm »
I think @roamer_1 is a decent enough guy but his Trump hate does not allow him to see beyond any issue.  He is totally obsessed with Trump hate and cannot be reasoned with.

I know.  I've tried.

We’ve all tried to pull him and others back from the brink. But after ten months and counting–it’s beyond tedious.

If self-proclaimed conservatives continue along this track in to second term territory it may will rightly best be characterized as ludicrous, pointless and trollish. 

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #354 on: October 17, 2017, 04:45:28 pm »
"Breaking the promise was the problem."

Yes it was...as of course I meant.

I'm not interested in rehashing the 1992 election too much. Forward to now...Trump is not at all a lesser evil...it's a movement and a great one at that.

Sorry to inform you, but in today's America, a solid conservative just isn't electable for POTUS. No sense in fantasizing because it isn't going to happen. 

Trump is the best conservative we are going to get. Like it or not. To those who don't like it, I would suggest to think back on eight years of Barack Obama misery, which I don't ever wish to repeat.

You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

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Like the way you tied in the Trump rally theme song. Smooth.  :beer:

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #355 on: October 17, 2017, 04:47:55 pm »

NOPE! Not offended in the least!  Just keeping the facts straight!
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #356 on: October 17, 2017, 04:51:23 pm »

So you remember when it was a black background and those awful frames, too?  Ugh, I hated frames.

No, but I remember logging in late at night and asking 'is anybody there?'
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #357 on: October 17, 2017, 05:02:41 pm »
NOPE! Not offended in the least!  Just keeping the facts straight!

@Bigun

Luv ya, buddy!  :beer:

Truth is, I was saving that meme for somebody else, but patience was lacking.    :laugh:
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #358 on: October 17, 2017, 05:08:12 pm »
:thumbsup:

Like the way you tied in the Trump rally theme song. Smooth.  :beer:

I think some on our side don't like Trump's personality and bring that too much into their political equation. Sure he's rough around the edges, but so what? The guy is a winner, smart, works hard, a leader, has an outstanding family, and he is conservative. That's a pretty damn good combination in my view.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #359 on: October 17, 2017, 05:15:57 pm »
"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.

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Who says you need to be a lawyer to have insightful comments about life/politics/philosophy?

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--or Trump with all of his warts, and changing to a more conservative direction

THERE WERE NO OTHER OUTCOMES likely, possible, probable. Period.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #360 on: October 17, 2017, 05:19:28 pm »

Good luck searching for a "perfect political party" - it doesn't exist and never will.

Good luck when voting for lesser evils and greater and greater Liberal Leftists you think are going to save you from Statism and revert us back to a Republic in your "imperfect" party.  I'm done practicing that form of insanity.  But you guys go right on ahead.

I have other plans.

I guess having a king is the closest there could be to that, and if you recall, we got rid of a king in 1776.

Your compatriots and this people have made it clear that they wanted a 'king'/'Dictator' as long as he gave you what you wanted.  History teaches that human nature will always clamor for a king to rule them when a people who do not trust their neighbors with liberty and whom do not want the responsibility that is required to maintain it.

Like it or not, the parties evolved from the way our Founding Fathers set up our country. If you can think of a better way to do it, please let us know.

A return to that which you and this people have said is no longer a winnable option and no longer wanted or desired by the population.

So enjoy the Socialism, however it is you convince yourself is better than the alternative.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #361 on: October 17, 2017, 05:38:05 pm »

Have to live in reality, otherwise we accomplish nothing and our cause deteriorates into oblivion.

Your cause is not a cause. The very essence of Conservatism is centered upon immovable truths, that you find sacrificial. I will have no part in it. I will stand on this same immovable ground and forego the shifting sands of your 'cause'. Screw your cause.

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I don't think some on our side realize how close we were the past eight years to losing our freedom and liberty, which is exactly what the left wants. If the military would have been on the side of Obama, well it could have gotten real ugly.

No different than right now.

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The left would love for there to be a third party with a conservative candidate. We should NOT hand them the presidency on a silver platter.

Then so be it. When you have to squint to see the difference between the two, it really doesn't matter which 'side' wins. The fetid stench of Republican 'compromise' goes clean to the bone.

Even in your own words.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #362 on: October 17, 2017, 05:43:51 pm »
REALITY: The 2016 election would result in one of two outcomes

--more of the Obama, socialist direction, with Clinton's crime family back in charge,

--or Trump with all of his warts, and changing to a more conservative direction

THERE WERE NO OTHER OUTCOMES likely, possible, probable. Period.

A distinction without a difference. So why bother?

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #363 on: October 17, 2017, 05:46:47 pm »

Your party is as corrupt, evil and Statist as the Democrat Party is, if not moreso.

And I'm done being their bitch.

Then start being irrelevant.   
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #364 on: October 17, 2017, 05:50:24 pm »
A distinction without a difference. So why bother?

Fool.  The differences are humongous, and important to conservatives.   

We'd best learn a lesson that the Dems have taken to heart - solidarity.  Even with no control of any of the branches of government, the Dems have thwarted conservative policy goals quite effectively.  Because they're united in opposition, and we're fractious and divided and there are too damn many of us who'd rather see nothing accomplished unless its ideologically pure.   

We are, truly, our own worst enemy.   

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #365 on: October 17, 2017, 05:57:16 pm »

We are, truly, our own worst enemy.

There is no 'we'. Not between you and I. Nor between mine and yours. There is little we agree upon - not enough for kith and kin.

Go your way. I'll go mine.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #366 on: October 17, 2017, 05:59:22 pm »
Then start being irrelevant.

What is irrelevant is a party that is less than a few degrees different from their opposition.
That is irrelevance.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #367 on: October 17, 2017, 06:13:45 pm »
Fool.  The differences are humongous, and important to conservatives.   

We'd best learn a lesson that the Dems have taken to heart - solidarity.  Even with no control of any of the branches of government, the Dems have thwarted conservative policy goals quite effectively.  Because they're united in opposition, and we're fractious and divided and there are too damn many of us who'd rather see nothing accomplished unless its ideologically pure.   

We are, truly, our own worst enemy.

That’s right. All or nothing at all in a politically divided populace is not how to advance a conservative constitutionalist agenda. Reagan understood and practiced that. And Pres.Trump has now taken up Reagan’s mantle.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #368 on: October 17, 2017, 06:15:08 pm »
Then start being irrelevant.

I'm hardly irrelevant.

I'm the thorn in your side.  I intend to remain so.

We'd best learn a lesson that the Dems have taken to heart - solidarity. 

We have no intention to be part of your uniparty solidarity.  The GOP and the Democrats are already unified and in concert with the same agenda.   That there is the demand we join that solidarity is.... nuts.

Because they're united in opposition, and we're fractious and divided and there are too damn many of us who'd rather see nothing accomplished unless its ideologically pure.   

We are, truly, our own worst enemy.   

We have absolutely nothing in common with the Republican Party and Leftists like you who populate it and pretend to be Conservatives while spewing Liberalism.  You demonstrate that fact plainly here on this board on a daily basis.

We have nothing in common.  Nothing.

Your party said repeatedly via it's leaders in the party, the Senate, it's president and his staff in the White House that "Christian Conservatives" who would not compromise their principles were not wanted, needed or required.  Hordes of Trump supporters declared us a domestic enemy that deserved death for the way we refused to vote for Trump because 'the country was at stake' - so the enemy we are.

I embrace that assertion.

In fact, I intend to live up to the assertion and do all I can to render the Republican party to the same place of political irrelevance as the Whigs.
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #369 on: October 17, 2017, 06:20:33 pm »
There is no 'we'. Not between you and I. Nor between mine and yours. There is little we agree upon - not enough for kith and kin.

Go your way. I'll go mine.

You'd be surprised how much we likely agree on.  I know we disagree on social issues, but the GOP is a coalition that stands for far more than what animates the religious.   I've been voting GOP since I was 18 - that's over 40 years now.  I'd say you're a fool if you demand that a main street conservative/centrist like me leave the coalition.  But you're already leaving,  unwilling to caucus with the like-minded and unwilling to compromise your sacred principles.  Join the half of all adults who voluntarily render yourselves irrelevant on Election Day. 

I prefer to stay relevant and lend my efforts to electing conservatives and growing respect for liberty, limited government and the equal protection of the law.   
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #370 on: October 17, 2017, 06:22:05 pm »
All or nothing at all in a politically divided populace is not how to advance a conservative constitutionalist agenda.

Been hearing and watching political party hacks in the GOP spew that bullshit for the better part of almost 30 years.   Your party that has been pushing that 'the perfect is the enemy of good' claptrap has absolutely NOTHING to show for their efforts except the fact that they are now indistinguishable from the Leftist Democrats.

Idiots keep insisting you choose the lesser Liberals and Leftists as your party rulers.  And your own party hacks and protagonists even right here on this board have openly stated that advancing a Conservative Constitutional agenda is no longer possible and a LOSING position politically, while advocating embracing the Democrat position and making Liberalism their own agenda.

You and your party stand for nothing but better managed Big Government Statism. 

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #371 on: October 17, 2017, 06:25:37 pm »
I'm hardly irrelevant.

I'm the thorn in your side.  I intend to remain so.

We have no intention to be part of your uniparty solidarity.  The GOP and the Democrats are already unified and in concert with the same agenda.   That there is the demand we join that solidarity is.... nuts.

We have absolutely nothing in common with the Republican Party and Leftists like you who populate it and pretend to be Conservatives while spewing Liberalism.  You demonstrate that fact plainly here on this board on a daily basis.

We have nothing in common.  Nothing.

Your party said repeatedly via it's leaders in the party, the Senate, it's president and his staff in the White House that "Christian Conservatives" who would not compromise their principles were not wanted, needed or required.  Hordes of Trump supporters declared us a domestic enemy that deserved death for the way we refused to vote for Trump because 'the country was at stake' - so the enemy we are.

I embrace that assertion.

In fact, I intend to live up to the assertion and do all I can to render the Republican party to the same place of political irrelevance as the Whigs.

Blah, blah, blah.   You got nothing but hot air.  Go suck up to your God and leave the heavy lifting to those who understand how political power and influence is forged.

And don't flatter yourself that you're a thorn in my side.   You're a joke.       
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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #372 on: October 17, 2017, 06:34:47 pm »
You'd be surprised how much we likely agree on.  I know we disagree on social issues, but the GOP is a coalition that stands for far more than what animates the religious.   I've been voting GOP since I was 18 - that's over 40 years now.  I'd say you're a fool if you demand that a main street conservative/centrist like me leave the coalition.  But you're already leaving,  unwilling to caucus with the like-minded and unwilling to compromise your sacred principles.  Join the half of all adults who voluntarily render yourselves irrelevant on Election Day. 

I prefer to stay relevant and lend my efforts to electing conservatives and growing respect for liberty, limited government and the equal protection of the law.   

We have discussed other than social issues and disagreed. I have yet to see a single Conservative stance you have been willing to defend. No, your kind and mine are not in agreement, and will not be in agreement.

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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #373 on: October 17, 2017, 06:36:27 pm »
You'd be surprised how much we likely agree on.

Wrong.  You hate the central core of what animates our thinking and way of life, by your own admission over myriad threads.  Therefore we have absolutely NOTHING in common.

unwilling to caucus with the like-minded and unwilling to compromise your sacred principles.

We are NOT like-minded, and the fact you and others have declared our refusal to compromise sacred principles - as an evil, showcases, illustrates and makes clear the fact that we have absolutely nothing in common with you and yours. 

Go suck up to your God and leave the heavy lifting to those who understand how political power and influence is forged.

Always into tyranny such a people as yourself forge chains and demand obeisance.  Ridicule giving way to imprisonment and then mass graves because you understand how political power and influence is forged sans the God you advised I 'suck up to'.

And don't flatter yourself that you're a thorn in my side.   You're a joke.       

Thorn, joke - I'm there...




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Re: 20 reasons to join the fight against the Far Left
« Reply #374 on: October 17, 2017, 06:36:40 pm »
Been hearing and watching political party hacks in the GOP spew that bullshit for the better part of almost 30 years.   Your party that has been pushing that 'the perfect is the enemy of good' claptrap has absolutely NOTHING to show for their efforts except the fact that they are now indistinguishable from the Leftist Democrats.

Idiots keep insisting you choose the lesser Liberals and Leftists as your party rulers.  And your own party hacks and protagonists even right here on this board have openly stated that advancing a Conservative Constitutional agenda is no longer possible and a LOSING position politically, while advocating embracing the Democrat position and making Liberalism their own agenda.

You and your party stand for nothing but better managed Big Government Statism.

That is precisely right.