Democrats Intro Automatic Gun-Fire Prevention Act to Ban Gun Parts

[roamer_1]

I am serious.  Deadly serious.  All of you proving how easy it is to turn a rifle into an automatic weapon are goading Congress to ban semi-automatic rifles.

This is a good place to stand down and hug your rifles, while you have them.

The absurdity of your position is hilarious. So now, not only infringing the R2KBA, but now limiting speech.

If you had any idea how easily a rifle can be built from scratch... I dare say you'd be horrified, and call for the banning of everything from coal fires to machining tools.

[txradioguy]

Your posts are great; it's clear to see who is pro-2nd amendment, that's by how they voted. Not those talking about armed insurrection, who would have allowed our 2nd amendment to be endangered with others running the country.

Do you even read what you write before you hit send?

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President Obama spoke for me and every American in his remarks in #Newtown Connecticut.

"I generally oppose gun control," he wrote then, "but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today's internet technology we should be able to tell within 72 hours if a potential gun owner has a record."

Trump: 'We'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by'

Not sure who you're talking about being an ardent supporter of the Second Amendment.  But it ain't Trump.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The absurdity of your position is hilarious. So now, not only infringing the R2KBA, but now limiting speech.  ...

Free speech isn't always smart speech @roamer_1 ... but you continue.  In fact, take your rifle and rubber bands to the well of the Senate and prove to them why it's so stupid to ban bump stocks.

Just don't come around whining when they see your point and take your rifle.

[Chosen Daughter]

We should not under any circumstance support any kind of a law such as this. We all know that the left's agenda is to eventually disarm the American people. This is an attempt to get something started in that direction. The Democrats are simply not to be trusted under any circumstance.
NO COMPROMISES

Exactly.  One leads to the next ban.  They will be making a victory lap every time a psycho does something.

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[roamer_1]

Free speech isn't always smart speech @roamer_1 ... but you continue.  In fact, take your rifle and rubber bands to the well of the Senate and prove to them why it's so stupid to ban bump stocks.

Just don't come around whining when they see your point and take your rifle.

Like I said, the point of all this is not bumpstocks in the first place.
And they won't be taking my rifle(s) or my pistol(s).
In fact, I dare say the State of Montana will draw that line, like they already have a time or two.

[driftdiver]

I am serious.  Deadly serious.  All of you proving how easy it is to turn a rifle into an automatic weapon are goading Congress to ban semi-automatic rifles.

This is a good place to stand down and hug your rifles, while you have them.

@Right_in_Virginia

The local county sheriff has a display of weapons found inside the county jail.

They include knives. Razors and a collection of guns.  Most of them are simple single shot zip guns.  One is even made of paper.

They can't keep weapons out of a jail.  Think about that.

I can make a single shot gun for about 3 dollars from stuff at the hardware store.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

I can make a single shot gun for about 3 dollars from stuff at the hardware store.

Good.

Then what's all the angst over banning or regulating bump stocks?  From what I'm reading here, a strong rubber band replaces them.

[GtHawk]

We should not under any circumstance support any kind of a law such as this. We all know that the left's agenda is to eventually disarm the American people. This is an attempt to get something started in that direction. The Democrats are simply not to be trusted under any circumstance.
NO COMPROMISES

You know one could read Feinstein's proposed law and interpret it to include phalanges, since they fall with the definition of an instrument and with conditioning would definitely "speed up the rate of fire for a semi-automatic rifle.". I suggest we all become proactive and extend to DiFi one of our phalanges before she actually introduces her bill. Here ya go Di, I certainly am not the first but most assuredly won't be the last, I extend one of my phalanges to you!

[driftdiver]

Good.

Then what's all the angst over banning or regulating bump stocks?  From what I'm reading here, a strong rubber band replaces them.

The point is gun laws only impact law abiding people.

That's that gun control doesn't work.  What don't you get about that?

[GtHawk]

Your posts are great; it's clear to see who is pro-2nd amendment, that's by how they voted. Not those talking about armed insurrection, who would have allowed our 2nd amendment to be endangered with others running the country.

And of course YOU would go there, when the argument is spurious we can always expect

[GtHawk]

Good.

Then what's all the angst over banning or regulating bump stocks?  From what I'm reading here, a strong rubber band replaces them.

It's always interesting when someone is so unconcerned with the infringement of someone else's rights when they don't perceive it having an effect on them.

[txradioguy]

Good.

Then what's all the angst over banning or regulating bump stocks?  From what I'm reading here, a strong rubber band replaces them.

The Unbelievable Stupidity of Those Who Believe that Laws Stop the Lawless

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[Right_in_Virginia]

The Unbelievable Stupidity of Those Who Believe that Laws Stop the Lawless 

What amazes me is the unbelievable stupidity of those who believe this is about writing laws to stop the lawless.   

[txradioguy]

What amazes me is the unbelievable stupidity of those who believe this is about writing laws to stop the lawless.

Says the person who wants laws written to stop lawful gun owners from owning a legal addition to their personally owned weapon.

You and Lady Gaga...who you bad mouth in the other thread...both have a common goal.


How do you justify taking a different opinion on the same subject in two different threads?

[roamer_1]

Good.

Then what's all the angst over banning or regulating bump stocks?  From what I'm reading here, a strong rubber band replaces them.

Right... Yet another law for the black-robed oligarchy to interpret any way they want. Mot only the law, but the precedent must be considered.

What part of 'Shall not be infringed' ???

[Right_in_Virginia]

Says the person who wants laws written to stop lawful gun owners from owning a legal addition to their personally owned weapon.

@txradioguy ... fight like hell to keep your additions to turn a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic rifle and you'll end up with the additions---without the gun. 

The libs want you to fight for this.  The libs want you all over Al Gore's magnificent Internet proving the government is stupid to ban the bump stock because a well placed rubber band will have the same affect.  They're begging you to be this stupid....because you're giving them a concrete reason to finally outright ban semi-automatic weapons.

If you're lucky, you'll get to keep the rubber band.

(A smart person would follow the NRA's lead on this and stand down)

[Right_in_Virginia]

What part of 'Shall not be infringed' ???

This argument was lost with the first bill signed into law doing this.

The best strategy now is to contain the infringement.

[txradioguy]

Right... Yet another law for the black-robed oligarchy to interpret any way they want. Mot only the law, but the precedent must be considered.

What part of 'Shall not be infringed' ???

@roamer_1

She doesn't care about that...nor most parts of the 2A.  She's positioning herself to be on the same side of this as her Orange Idol when he suddenly remembers he was against "assault" weapons before he was for them in order to sucker Conservatives into voting for him.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@roamer_1

She doesn't care about that...nor most parts of the 2A.  She's positioning herself to be on the same side of this as her Orange Idol

No.  And I understand why you're so confused.  I did put more than two dots on the page...forgetting you'd get lost.

I AM ON YOUR SIDE .... trying to stop you from making a political mistake that will cost you more of your guns.



In the name of God, man, snap out of it!!! ----The NRA is trying to do the same thing. 

[roamer_1]

This argument was lost with the first bill signed into law doing this.

The best strategy now is to contain the infringement.

Knock yourself out.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Knock yourself out.

I've been trying all day @roamer_1  Talking to a wall would result in a more useful  conversation.

I'm out.   

[roamer_1]

She doesn't care about that...nor most parts of the 2A.  She's positioning herself to be on the same side of this as her Orange Idol when he suddenly remembers he was against "assault" weapons before he was for them in order to sucker Conservatives into voting for him.

That's right.
There is no valid law against the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

[roamer_1]

I've been trying all day @roamer_1  It's a lost cause.

I'm out.   

No, @Right_in_Virginia , you're on the wrong side of this one.
More law will do nothing but further restrict what should not be restricted.
Banning bumpstocks does absolutely *nothing* in terms of prevention.

The only thing which would have effect is to station LEO snipers at such events to better take the guy out next time.
That's it. That's the only remedy.

[Fishrrman]

roamer wrote:
"I literally and likely don't know anyone who is into guns that hasn't done so already.
It's a parlor trick, and not a serious mod."

It got pretty "serious" with 12 rifles equipped with 'em up on the 32nd floor in Vegas a few days' back...

This is an issue that isn't goin' away.
Sure as shootin', this slimeball Paddock probably lit the fuse in some others' dark souls.

I know, I know -- someone is going to reply to this post by repeating "the rubber band and pencil trick". That one actually takes some skill to put together and make workable.

But a bump/slide stock? It's an easy bolt-on accessory that works much better.
Anyone can do it.
Not full auto, of course not. But perhaps... "the next best thing".

I don't want to see them banned and existing owners made outlaws for keeping them.
But there's going to have to be some sort of compromise on this one.
Even the NRA can see that.

Best solution that I can reckon is that ATF be given some regulation over them.
Maybe "class 3".
Hmmm.... how about a new "class 3a"?  (as in, "accessory")

[roamer_1]

roamer wrote:
"I literally and likely don't know anyone who is into guns that hasn't done so already.
It's a parlor trick, and not a serious mod."

It got pretty "serious" with 12 rifles equipped with 'em up on the 32nd floor in Vegas a few days' back...

This is an issue that isn't goin' away.
Sure as shootin', this slimeball Paddock probably lit the fuse in some others' dark souls.

I know, I know -- someone is going to reply to this post by repeating "the rubber band and pencil trick". That one actually takes some skill to put together and make workable.

But a bump/slide stock? It's an easy bolt-on accessory that works much better.
Anyone can do it.
Not full auto, of course not. But perhaps... "the next best thing".

I don't want to see them banned and existing owners made outlaws for keeping them.
But there's going to have to be some sort of compromise on this one.
Even the NRA can see that.

Best solution that I can reckon is that ATF be given some regulation over them.
Maybe "class 3".
Hmmm.... how about a new "class 3a"?  (as in, "accessory")

A waste of time. Something that easy to effect - literally for pennies - is absurd to restrict on the market. Anyone so determined as to do as this guy did could easily make them in minutes.

I will direct you to my answer, directly above your post:

No, @Right_in_Virginia , you're on the wrong side of this one.
More law will do nothing but further restrict what should not be restricted.
Banning bumpstocks does absolutely *nothing* in terms of prevention.

The only thing which would have effect is to station LEO snipers at such events to better take the guy out next time.
That's it. That's the only remedy.