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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1500 on: October 13, 2017, 02:41:04 am »

Well, well, well, no security guard on Hannity as advertised and no mention of said security guard. FBI probably nixed it.

Or Hannity was over promising and under delivering.
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« Reply #1501 on: October 13, 2017, 02:42:10 am »
Or Hannity was over promising and under delivering.

Hey. He's a street fighter, you know.

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« Reply #1502 on: October 13, 2017, 02:47:20 am »
Or Hannity was over promising and under delivering.

I actually watched tonight just to see the security guard. Lots of hype about this. How embarrassing and to say nothing? Just wow.
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« Reply #1503 on: October 13, 2017, 02:47:24 am »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1504 on: October 15, 2017, 05:35:14 pm »
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CNN's legal team going after impostor CNN site after fake story runs of security guard being Paddock's co-conspirator

When it comes to “fake news,” even CNN has its limits.

And apparently, pretending you’re CNN while running a made-up story about a Las Vegas security guard being arrested for complicity in Stephen Paddock’s brutal rampage is a bridge too far.

On Thursday, an article by a website called “CNN International” made the rounds by claiming that security guard Jesus Campos, who was wounded prior to the mass shooting, was actually a Paddock co-conspirator.

More: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/10/14/cnns-legal-team-going-impostor-cnn-site-fake-story-runs-security-guard-paddocks-co-conspirator-548518

Yeah, that thing we discussed the other day.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1505 on: October 15, 2017, 06:07:13 pm »
Yeah, that thing we discussed the other day.

Yup, I hate to admit it but they fooled me  :facepalm2:

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« Reply #1506 on: October 16, 2017, 12:20:25 pm »
Just saw this on Twitter: a guy went to the Mandalay Bay to get answers to his own questions about the shooting. He's now been banned from the premises. He shares his findings in a series of comments.
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Nick‏ @Nick_Falco 16h16 hours ago
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8. I had clear view of Paddocks room, concert & fuel tanks

Shooter didnt need 2nd window to shoot people & fuel tanks

Why break 2 windows?
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6. There are visible surveillance cameras in all service elevators.

There was no reason for Paddock to use these to get around security.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2017, 02:47:50 pm by mountaineer »
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1507 on: October 16, 2017, 12:41:41 pm »
The question about the windows is easily answered.  The inboard room angle had a slightly obstructed sight line due to lighting and large screens around the stage area.  He was probably anticipating crowd movement once shooting began.  Since the airport fence was on the far side of the field, it limited directions of egress.
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« Reply #1508 on: October 16, 2017, 05:41:34 pm »
I wonder if we'll get another presser-ever.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1509 on: October 16, 2017, 05:57:58 pm »
I wonder if we'll get another presser-ever.

The way they've been going, I wonder if we'd find one of any use?  Really, if they're just going to keep muddying the waters, there's no purpose being served.
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« Reply #1510 on: October 16, 2017, 05:59:19 pm »
I wonder if we'll get another presser-ever.

I hope not...until everything is sorted out .  But then again, I'm sure there will be things we will never know. 

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1511 on: October 16, 2017, 06:54:36 pm »
The way they've been going, I wonder if we'd find one of any use?  Really, if they're just going to keep muddying the waters, there's no purpose being served.
Unless muddying the waters is the purpose, possibly to keep the liability profile low.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1512 on: October 16, 2017, 07:07:48 pm »
Unless muddying the waters is the purpose, possibly to keep the liability profile low.

Ja.  That means a couple pressers any time now.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1513 on: October 17, 2017, 12:30:45 am »
I was thinking how odd the crime scene photos were so quickly leaked, and no leaks since. The WH could use the services of the leak stopper.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1514 on: October 17, 2017, 12:39:10 am »
The way they've been going, I wonder if we'd find one of any use?  Really, if they're just going to keep muddying the waters, there's no purpose being served.

There's a huge purpose being served.

It's part of the investigation... information is always withheld, and false information is disseminated. 
  • If there's a suspect at large, you can get them to let down their guard.
  • People will construct stories around what they think you know.  Then you catch them when their story doesn't match reality.
  • You can confirm real witnesses when they give information that was withheld from the public.
  • Etc.

These are very basic police investigative techniques.

I suspect they're trying to confirm there was no other suspect(s) involved.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1515 on: October 17, 2017, 01:56:42 am »
I was thinking how odd the crime scene photos were so quickly leaked, and no leaks since. The WH could use the services of the leak stopper.

It seems like the White House leaks have quieted down since Bannon was shown the door. Is that a coincidence?

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« Reply #1516 on: October 17, 2017, 02:21:49 am »
Preibus, too.  Hard to say who was leakier.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1517 on: October 17, 2017, 02:28:44 am »


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Las Vegas guard Jesus Campos vanished after visiting urgent-care clinic, union leader says
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The Mandalay Bay security guard who disappeared last week moments before he was scheduled to break his silence in television interviews has not been seen since he went to a walk-in health clinic, his union president said.

David Hickey of the Security, Police, and Fire Professionals of America (SPFPA) told reporters Friday that he got a text the night before saying Jesus Campos was taken to a UMC Quick Care facility, though he did not specify where or whom the text came from.

Continued at: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/16/las-vegas-guard-jesus-campos-vanished-after-visiting-urgent-care-clinic-union-leader-says.html

I would think he's hiding out; for his own safety or to not address this issue.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1518 on: October 17, 2017, 02:29:58 am »
He's probably hiding out somewhere, sort of like George Zimmerman did, I believe. Just getting away from it all, possibly in a place where he is well-protected. That's what I think.

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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1519 on: October 17, 2017, 02:46:56 am »
He's probably hiding out somewhere, sort of like George Zimmerman did, I believe. Just getting away from it all, possibly in a place where he is well-protected. That's what I think.

Maybe he's visiting Alex Jones.
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Seriously, I hope he's ok.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1520 on: October 17, 2017, 03:29:47 pm »
The guard, Jesus Campos, is either kept under wraps by the casino or the feds. Funny that they let the maintenance man give a televised interview. I have not lost interest in this case even though the media has.
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« Reply #1521 on: October 17, 2017, 03:36:20 pm »
The guard, Jesus Campos, is either kept under wraps by the casino or the feds. Funny that they let the maintenance man give a televised interview. I have not lost interest in this case even though the media has.

My guess is that the guy is an illegal alien and he was told to shut up and go away by the Mob because the Casinos do not need media attention brought to bear on whom they have as staff.
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Re: Las Vegas: Active shooter reported near Mandalay Bay
« Reply #1522 on: October 17, 2017, 06:35:25 pm »
At the least this event sets the tone that your average white retiree with a lot of guns and no reason to do so CAN and WILL go on a rampage at any time.

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« Reply #1523 on: October 17, 2017, 06:43:49 pm »
At the least this event sets the tone that your average white retiree with a lot of guns and no reason to do so CAN and WILL go on a rampage at any time.

True - as long as no reason is known.

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« Reply #1524 on: October 17, 2017, 06:49:39 pm »
True - as long as no reason is known.

It is too late for a motive to come flying sideways out of the weeds.
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