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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #100 on: September 19, 2017, 01:16:23 am »
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #101 on: September 19, 2017, 01:18:06 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on September 19, 2017, 01:12:18 am
Then you're doing it wrong.

And you're doing Burden of Proof wrong.

Hint: You're trying to employ a very basic fallacious argument.  Here: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #102 on: September 19, 2017, 01:18:57 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 19, 2017, 01:12:36 am
Well then, Sheriff Arpaio has no court date.  I guess we were all wrong.

Give me ONE legitimate citation where he has a court date to defend his pardon.  One.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #103 on: September 19, 2017, 01:19:57 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 19, 2017, 01:16:23 am
He thinks we're stupid.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Federal+Court+Arpiao+pardon+challenge&oq=Federal+Court+Arpiao+pardon+challenge&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160k1.42086.45215.0.45569.10.10.0.0.0.0.200.1462.0j9j1.10.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.9.1250...33i21k1.0.4MEahBF0peY

Doesn't show him having to defend the pardon.  It's regarding the judicial side of things.


"A public interest law firm, the Roderick and Solange MacArthur Justice Center, sought to file an amicus brief in an Arizona district court, where Arpaio is seeking to vacate a conviction after Trump granted him a pardon last month."


Note, it's to vacate the conviction, not any challenge to the pardon itself.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #104 on: September 19, 2017, 01:20:44 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on September 19, 2017, 01:18:57 am
Give me ONE legitimate citation where he has a court date to defend his pardon.  One.

See Google search you were apparently too dense to do.  Two to three posts up.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #105 on: September 19, 2017, 01:21:27 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on September 19, 2017, 01:19:57 am
Doesn't show him having to defend the pardon.  It's regarding the judicial side of things.

You are being pedantic.  I'm done with you.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #106 on: September 19, 2017, 01:27:09 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on September 19, 2017, 01:19:57 am
Doesn't show him having to defend the pardon.  It's regarding the judicial side of things.


"A public interest law firm, the Roderick and Solange MacArthur Justice Center, sought to file an amicus brief in an Arizona district court, where Arpaio is seeking to vacate a conviction after Trump granted him a pardon last month."


Note, it's to vacate the conviction, not any challenge to the pardon itself.

Oh, I forgot. You're the guy who says the EPA is a fine organization, only out for the best.  My bad.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #107 on: September 19, 2017, 01:30:05 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 19, 2017, 01:21:27 am
You are being pedantic.  I'm done with you.

Pedantic?!?

You and your buddy are the ones totally ignoring the reality of the difference between a pardon and the conviction.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #108 on: September 19, 2017, 01:30:39 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 19, 2017, 01:27:09 am
Oh, I forgot. You're the guy who says the EPA is a fine organization, only out for the best.  My bad.

Citation.  Where did I say that?  I've never said that, you dishonest slug.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #109 on: September 19, 2017, 01:31:51 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 19, 2017, 01:21:27 am
You are being pedantic.  I'm done with you.
Lawyers are the curse of our society, from politicians to judges to those attempting to justify their own self-worth.

I have dealt with many over my decades of business.   I have disdain for them and the two defending them here exemplify why.

Legality is all they believe.

Nothing about morality, about honor, about true justice.   Most simply suck.

A judge which decides he/she/it is the only law is one judge we do not need.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #110 on: September 19, 2017, 01:33:33 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on September 19, 2017, 01:30:05 am
Pedantic?!?

You and your buddy are the ones totally ignoring the reality of the difference between a pardon and the conviction.
Hey idiotic:  I NEVER said anything of the sort.

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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #111 on: September 19, 2017, 01:36:12 am »
Quote from: Oceander on September 19, 2017, 12:58:46 am
Apparently one doesn't have to go too far to find Antifa.  They're right here.

@Oceander  That's a bit too far.  I don't think you can say they are Antifa...

...Antifa is "Anti-Fascist".  These folks supprt Sheriff Arpaio, who used the power of his badge to deprive civil rights.  That's more akin to tactics of Fascists.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2017, 01:37:42 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on September 19, 2017, 01:33:33 am
Hey idiotic:  I NEVER said anything of the sort.

LOL... You can't even see that I wasn't responding to you, and you call me idiotic?! 

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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #113 on: September 19, 2017, 01:53:56 am »
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #114 on: September 19, 2017, 02:50:59 am »
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #115 on: September 19, 2017, 02:54:54 am »
I'm going to shut this one down for a while.  We'll open it in the morning.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #116 on: September 19, 2017, 01:36:44 pm »
Quote from: Suppressed on September 19, 2017, 01:37:42 am
LOL... You can't even see that I wasn't responding to you, and you call me idiotic?! 

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yes you are as you referenced more than just him in your post.  put some glasses on when you type next time.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #117 on: September 19, 2017, 01:42:07 pm »
Good Morning all you crabby people!!!

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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #118 on: September 19, 2017, 01:43:34 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on September 19, 2017, 01:42:07 pm
Good Morning all you crabby people!!!

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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #119 on: September 19, 2017, 01:45:30 pm »
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #120 on: September 19, 2017, 01:49:23 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on September 19, 2017, 01:42:07 pm
Good Morning all you crabby people!!!

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No one here but us crabby fascists.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #121 on: September 19, 2017, 03:11:25 pm »
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #122 on: September 19, 2017, 03:38:59 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on September 19, 2017, 01:36:44 pm
yes you are as you referenced more than just him in your post.  put some glasses on when you type next time.

I referenced "his buddy"...which I guess your solipsism took personally.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #123 on: September 19, 2017, 03:58:41 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 18, 2017, 04:05:52 pm
Frankly it scares me to death, because it's a fact that tyrants in black robes effectively DO rule this country.  Try arguing with a Judge some time, or refuse to look down when they're yelling at you, you're either be out a bunch of money or thrown in the slammer.  Then, because they think you're rude, will find against you in whatever you were there for anyway, regardless of what the law states.

"Judges" are the most arrogant people on the planet, and proud of it, too.

Both scare me. We have separation of powers and checks and balances for a reason. The 3 brances are supposed to be equal, and the executive and judicial branches should not have fiat powers.
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Re: Judge May Keep Sheriff Joe Conviction Despite Trump Pardon
« Reply #124 on: September 19, 2017, 05:23:00 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on September 19, 2017, 03:58:41 pm
Both scare me. We have separation of powers and checks and balances for a reason. The 3 brances are supposed to be equal, and the executive and judicial branches should not have fiat powers.

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