Democrats cling to the impossible: Winning the Senate in 2018

[mystery-ak]

 Democrats cling to the impossible: Winning the Senate in 2018

Capturing the majority would mean prevailing in deep-red terrain like Texas or Tennessee.

By KEVIN ROBILLARD and GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI

09/15/2017 05:03 AM EDT

Senate Democrats are three seats shy of a majority and almost entirely on defense in the 2018 elections, making it all but impossible for them to retake the chamber next year.

But Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and DSCC Chairman Chris Van Hollen are privately refusing to rule out an improbable midterm victory, even though they must first defend 10 incumbents in states President Donald Trump won. Their insistence is primarily to keep donors invested and excited about next year’s Senate races, said a handful of top party operatives. But Democrats also want to be prepared to ride a massive wave next fall should one develop, potentially taking advantage of bloody Republican primaries to spur a red-state surprise and swing the Senate.

“Our priority is to make sure that we win all our incumbent races,” Van Hollen said in an August interview. Then, “we have great pickup opportunities in Nevada and Arizona,” he continued. “And we have good candidates in other states, and we’re going to have more. We’re going to work to maximize our opportunities.”

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[Applewood]

I don't know that the Dems winning the Senate is all that impossible.

[Hoodat]

Democrats already have the Senate.

[INVAR]

Democrats already have the Senate.

^^^^ THIS!

[Applewood]

Democrats already have the Senate.

Good point.

And the House.  And the presidency.

[240B]

The Democrats who are Democrats along with
the Republicans who are Democrats, a.k.a., 'the establishment'
far outnumber the actual Republicans who stand up for the Republican 'so called' platform.


https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/DRAFT_12_FINAL[1]-ben_1468872234.pdf


In fact, Republicans who actually believe in the RNC platform are considered heritics and outcasts in D.C. by everyone. The Republican platform was never intended to be a 'real' thing. It was just a stupid trick. It was all a lie.


We were fooled and taken advantage of, simply because we believed that people mean what they say.


But, I can only thank God that isn't me. So much better to be the betrayed, than to be the betrayer. No matter how rich these Republicans make themselves with our money, along with Wall Street and Soros, I would never ever want to be them. They may make 100 million dollars by scheming and lying, but they will go to their graves as stinking pieces of shit. And that will be their legacy. That is the way they will always be thought of. That is all they will have in the end.


I couldn't do it, even for 100 million of Soros's dollars.

[Sanguine]

I don't know that the Dems winning the Senate is all that impossible.

Same here.

[XenaLee]

A couple of thoughts on this "clinging to the impossible" meme.....

1.  Rule #1:  Never EVER underestimate your opponent(s).  Especially when your opponents are the Democrats.

2.  Overconfidence kills.  Wouldn't be the first (or last) time a political party thought they "had it in the bag" and lost.


A lot can happen between now and next November.  A helluva lot.

[Applewood]

I think there are going to be more and more people bolting from the Republican Party between now and next year.  Those of us who already have are not going to be in the minority anymore. 

Then there will be voters who might still be registered Republicans, but, disillusioned with the party and the choices between a liberal Republican and a liberal Democrat, will just decide to stay home, write in a candidate, vote third party if available, or perhaps think, what's the difference, and just vote for the Dem. 

Added to that will be the fervent Trump supporters.  As Trump has now made it obvious he is a Democrat and not a Republican, his fans may decide to abandon all pretext of traditional Republicanism and even their phony conservatism and just vote Democrat.  If Trump is a Democrat, then they will be too.  They will follow him over a cliff if he tells them to.

No, Democrat control of both houses of congress and the presidency is not all that far fetched..

[truth_seeker]

And the conversation that rarely or never occurs: Why has Conservatism proved to be so inept at widening the appeal?

--Always quick to complain, criticize, but never introspective.

--Hillary is doing much the same. thing.

Yeah, but. If only. His fault. Their fault. Her fault.

But little to no attention to selling conservatism as a political philosophy.

[INVAR]

And the conversation that rarely or never occurs: Why has Conservatism proved to be so inept at widening the appeal?

Because the pretend party of 'Conservatives' has steadfastly refused to articulate Conservative principles and has wholesale abandoned them.

It never talks about Conservative principles of limited government and personal responsibility and a return to the rule of law.

Instead Party hacks and false Conservatives preach 'pragmatism over principle' every single election cycle, and they choose greater and grander liberal leftists as their representatives.

Couple that with decades upon decades of Socialist indoctrination and constant slander and impugning of principles said to be 'out of touch and out of step' with society without any decent attempt or concerted effort to defend or contradict those assaults - and a populace handed free shit at the expense of others becomes an epidemic that eschews responsibility in favor of a handout.

We have become the very thing we were warned against becoming and wholesale ignored the warnings about what happens when the public finds it can vote itself largesse from the treasury.

[libertybele]

Good point.

And the House.  And the presidency.

They always have; nothing has changed.