Harvey Is What Climate Change Looks Like

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 Harvey Is What Climate Change Looks Like

It’s time to open our eyes and prepare for the world that’s coming.

By ERIC HOLTHAUS

August 28, 2017

In all of U.S. history, there’s never been a storm like Hurricane Harvey. That fact is increasingly clear, even though the rains are still falling and the water levels in Houston are still rising.

But there’s an uncomfortable point that, so far, everyone is skating around: We knew this would happen, decades ago. We knew this would happen, and we didn’t care. Now is the time to say it as loudly as possible: Harvey is what climate change looks like. More specifically, Harvey is what climate change looks like in a world that has decided, over and over, that it doesn’t want to take climate change seriously.

Houston has been sprawling out into the swamp for decades, largely unplanned and unzoned. Now, all that pavement has transformed the bayous into surging torrents and shunted Harvey’s floodwaters towards homes and businesses. Individually, each of these subdivisions or strip malls might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but in aggregate, they’ve converted the metro area into a flood factory. Houston, as it was before Harvey, will never be the same again.

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/28/climate-change-hurricane-harvey-215547?lo=ap_d1

[dfwgator]

 

[Free Vulcan]

Just another liberal leaping bum rush. Take one incident and blow it way up to a global catastrophe with zero facts. No different than taking Trump's words about Charlottesville and manufacturing him into a Nazi.

[Wingnut]

 

Someone must be looking for:
A. research Funding
B  Book Deal
3. a job.

[GtHawk]

Houston has been sprawling out into the swamp for decades, largely unplanned and unzoned. Now, all that pavement has transformed the bayous into surging torrents and shunted Harvey’s floodwaters towards homes and businesses. Individually, each of these subdivisions or strip malls might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but in aggregate, they’ve converted the metro area into a flood factory. Houston, as it was before Harvey, will never be the same again.

Okay so wait, is the disaster that Houston and Texas are experiencing because of natural climate change or poor urban planning? Or maybe just the a spin of the great cosmic wheel that came up shit happens?

[ABX]

In all of U.S. history, there’s never been a storm like Hurricane Harvey.......

The 1900 Galveston Hurricane was worse than Harvey. At that, Harvey is probably just in the top 10 in the US. The Hurricane itself isn't that out of the ordinary. The problem is both due to man caused problems (lack of evacuation, infrastructure issues) and that it has been caught up in a high pressure system holding it in place.

[Suppressed]

Houston has been sprawling out into the swamp for decades, largely unplanned and unzoned. Now, all that pavement has transformed the bayous into surging torrents and shunted Harvey’s floodwaters towards homes and businesses. Individually, each of these subdivisions or strip malls might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but in aggregate, they’ve converted the metro area into a flood factory. Houston, as it was before Harvey, will never be the same again.

This part is very true.  Development has made the flooding problems worse (or, rather, destroyed things that help ameliorate the flooding).  And it's sad that we don't learn lessons from it.  (Note, the rainfall was so voluminous, there still would have been awful flooding...the wetlands and infiltration wouldn't have saved them in this case).

But that is a separate issue from climate change.

[LateForLunch]

I've been keeping track - every single very destructive weather-event of at least the last thirty years has been blamed by ecoparanoids on anthropogenic global warming (AGW). Every single one of them. That means, according to algore and the rest of the AGW fanatics, the number of destructive weather events we would otherwise have had in the last thirty years was ZERO. See, if every single one of the destructive weather events would not have taken place without AGW driving them, then not a single destructive weather event of the last three decades would otherwise have happened.

That's amazing!! To believe that three decades would pass without a single destructive weather event anywhere on the face of the Earth. WOW!! Maybe "amazing" is the wrong word - let's see if we can come up with a better word like, oh, IMPOSSIBLE!?!

The AGW fanatics have painted themselves into an absurd corner. Their claim that every single destructive weather event since the 1980s has been caused by AGW has rendered that claim utterly imbecilic.

And since idiocy has never bothered leftists a single bit, it isn't going to stop them now. We get it dopes. EVERYTHING bad that happens in the world is the fault of conservatives. We get it - the fact that YOU ARE ALL DANGEROUSLY, LETHALLY INSANE, that is!!

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

So didn't we just go through a record paucity of hurricanes? Is that what global warming looks like too?

[skeeter]

All the world is politics.

Don't these a88holes ever get tired of politics?

[the_doc]

Houston has been sprawling out into the swamp for decades, largely unplanned and unzoned. Now, all that pavement has transformed the bayous into surging torrents and shunted Harvey’s floodwaters towards homes and businesses. Individually, each of these subdivisions or strip malls might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but in aggregate, they’ve converted the metro area into a flood factory. Houston, as it was before Harvey, will never be the same again.

Another idiot accidentally admits that the real problem is not climate change, but impervious cover in an urban sprawl on flat land in a Bayou City near the ocean.  (Did he also mention that the Democrat Mayor of Houston is also an idiot?)

[NavyCanDo]

The 1900 Galveston Hurricane was worse than Harvey. At that, Harvey is probably just in the top 10 in the US. The Hurricane itself isn't that out of the ordinary. The problem is both due to man caused problems (lack of evacuation, infrastructure issues) and that it has been caught up in a high pressure system holding it in place.

What made Harvey so devastating is because it could not pass through and dissipate as nearly every storm in history does that hits the gulf coast.    What prevented it was a BIG STOP SIGN called a powerful HIGH Pressure system that has been dominate over the Pacific Northwest giving the NW a record dry summer. That High pressure caused the storm to pause and spin its devastating cargo of rain on one spot rather than spreading it out over hundreds of miles.  Highs and Lows and the good old jet stream is to blame - not climate change. 

[txradioguy]

In all of U.S. history, there’s never been a storm like Hurricane Harvey.

This fool doesn't know his history

Galveston, 1900: 8,000 to 12,000 deaths

San Felipe Okeechobee, 1928: 2,500 deaths

Hurricane Katrina, 2005: 1,200 deaths

Atlantic-Gulf, 1919: 600 to 900 deaths

Hurricane Audrey, 1957: 416 deaths

http://www.businessinsider.com/deadliest-hurricanes-storm-in-american-history-2016-9

[the_doc]

What made Harvey so devastating is because it could not pass through and dissipate as nearly every storm in history does that hits the gulf coast.    What prevented it was a BIG STOP SIGN called a powerful HIGH Pressure system that has been dominate over the Pacific Northwest giving the NW a record dry summer. That High pressure caused the storm to pause and spin its devastating cargo of rain on one spot rather than spreading it out over hundreds of miles.  Highs and Lows and the good old jet stream is to blame - not climate change.

Ah, yes, I had forgotten about that.  (Still, Houston has had a history of fairly bad flooding, like many cities on the Texas coast, and it has only gotten worse with urban sprawl.  [The problem is that too many Yankees have actually enjoyed moving to Houston.])

[dfwgator]

All the world is politics.

Don't these a88holes ever get tired of politics?

No. Because to those who don't believe in God,  Politics is their "God".

[RoosGirl]

If I remember right, after Hurricane Floyd, which was a monster storm when it was barreling down on Florida but skirted us, we were told that this was ushering in a 10 year period of high intensity and greater number of hurricanes.  Then there wasn't another Cat 3 or higher storm for like 6 years.

[Smokin Joe]

So all that emissions reduction crap just made it worse? 

[Cyber Liberty]

Houston has been sprawling out into the swamp for decades, largely unplanned and unzoned. Now, all that pavement has transformed the bayous into surging torrents and shunted Harvey’s floodwaters towards homes and businesses. Individually, each of these subdivisions or strip malls might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but in aggregate, they’ve converted the metro area into a flood factory. Houston, as it was before Harvey, will never be the same again.

Okay so wait, is the disaster that Houston and Texas are experiencing because of natural climate change or poor urban planning? Or maybe just the a spin of the great cosmic wheel that came up shit happens?

That's what jumped out at me from the article too.  The author is making a dandy case for blaming the bad effects of Harvey on poor urban planning while failing to make the case for AGW.  I would like to point out this exact same set of arguments were trotted out after Katrina, because the natural marshes protecting New Orleans had also been paved over and developed in the years prior to that storm.

[the_doc]

If I remember right, after Hurricane Floyd, which was a monster storm when it was barreling down on Florida but skirted us, we were told that this was ushering in a 10 year period of high intensity and greater number of hurricanes.  Then there wasn't another Cat 3 or higher storm for like 6 years.

I, too, remember those false prophets of the false gods of AGW.

[LateForLunch]

This fool doesn't know his history

Galveston, 1900: 8,000 to 12,000 deaths

San Felipe Okeechobee, 1928: 2,500 deaths

Hurricane Katrina, 2005: 1,200 deaths

Atlantic-Gulf, 1919: 600 to 900 deaths

Hurricane Audrey, 1957: 416 deaths

http://www.businessinsider.com/deadliest-hurricanes-storm-in-american-history-2016-9

Of course he knows, he is just pretending that he doesn't. That is the latest leftist SOP - just make things up as you go along.

[Cyber Liberty]

If I remember right, after Hurricane Floyd, which was a monster storm when it was barreling down on Florida but skirted us, we were told that this was ushering in a 10 year period of high intensity and greater number of hurricanes.  Then there wasn't another Cat 3 or higher storm for like 6 years.

Weather.com verifies there hasn't been a Cat 3 make landfall in the US since 2005, which means 12 years.

[the_doc]

Weather.com verifies there hasn't been a Cat 3 make landfall in the US since 2005, which means 12 years.

All I know from the article is that it is imperative that we stop the cow farts. 

[Free Vulcan]

This fool doesn't know his history

Galveston, 1900: 8,000 to 12,000 deaths

San Felipe Okeechobee, 1928: 2,500 deaths

Hurricane Katrina, 2005: 1,200 deaths

Atlantic-Gulf, 1919: 600 to 900 deaths

Hurricane Audrey, 1957: 416 deaths

http://www.businessinsider.com/deadliest-hurricanes-storm-in-american-history-2016-9

And in terms of sustained wind speed, Harvey barely makes the top 100 in history.

[Cyber Liberty]

All I know from the article is that it is imperative that we stop the cow farts.

And that we do so by everybody adopting Vegan diets.  By force, if necessary.

[the_doc]

And that we do so by everybody adopting Vegan diets.  By force, if necessary.

Yes, by force.  Global Socialism is manifestly our only hope.