Donald Trump 'might refuse to leave the White House when his term ends', expert warns

[RoosGirl]

Well, technically, that photo refers to the conversation.  If you want to take it personally that's up to you.

Yes, the conversation.  You can't be a toad and a horse's ass at the same time. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Well, technically, that photo refers to the conversation.  If you want to take it personally that's up to you.

This is a really nice way to look at it @Sanguine .  If only I didn't know her so well, I would embrace it.

Thanks for trying.

[INVAR]

Let's run the numbers on this. We're so few in number, we were no longer wanted in the GOP. Nope, Our support wasn't needed, it wasn't even wanted.

But now we're going to 'destroy the Trump Presidency'?

Oh my.

We're not rooting for failure. If Trump does every conservative thing he said he would, I'd be tickled--especially if he doesn't pull some boneheaded stunt to mess that up. Only there are rules, that Constitution thingy, and I want things done well, meaning that the Dems couldn't throw them out with a countermanding EO or dump them with a ruling from the 9th Circus. All neat and Constitutional-like. Mainly because it would be good for the country.
Nothing would make me happier than to see the Socialist/Communist/Democrat Agenda thwarted in such away that it does not recover. I want a return to the Constitution, a smaller government that does less at the Federal Level, a return of power to the States and Liberty to the people, and the prosperity that comes with a balanced budget and a revenue surplus to pay off the Debt.

Everyone has a wish list, I reckon. Now if Trump can goad the Congress into repealing the ACA, and enacting measures to do the more Conservative things he promised--and doesn't give Hillary and her minions a pass for national security violations, the world would be a better place.

You know, you are wasting your time attempting to reason with an unreasonable hack.  You have once again eloquently stated beautifully in slightly different nuances the same exact thing you have stated several times before to this person in the past year.  It doesn't matter to her.  Your POV and position is irrelevant to even consider.   Unless you bow down to her demands and walk in lockstep to total fealty and cheerleading the party line, you are not someone whose argument is worthy of consideration.  This she has demonstrated ad nauseum, which is why there is no point bothering to explain to her or even persuade her to acknowledge there is merit in what you say.

If you dare post an acknowledgement of something good that serves the Conservative POV, she will come and suggest you are troll living under the stairs in your mother's basement as a response to pointing out a bullshit tactic being employed by the Left.  But yet she insists we are the ones who are off the deep and and refuse to credit Trump or defend him.  But when we do - we get this kind of shit from her.

All she knows to do is apply Alinsky's rule No. 5 and 12 liberally upon everyone that is not walking in lockstep with Party talking points.

[Smokin Joe]

Ah, my bad---I went outside the lines of the literal.   Read through the posts @RoosGirl on this thread and elsewhere ...  you won't see the word "applause", but you will see the opinion that simply acknowledging the President's achievements is something rather sublime and worthy of recognition.  You believing this or not is inconsequential, to me.     

Our conversation has reached its natural end.   

No, not "worthy of recognition", simple acknowledgement would suffice, rather than propagating the lie that we never have anything good to say, even when he does right.

[Right_in_Virginia]

So fine.  I accept where we stand: I'm an unhinged off-the-deep end traitor deserving of death ....

Now this is just unfair @INVAR   I never said you were a traitor or deserving of death.   

[Oceander]

I know one of your favorite words is "toad" @RoosGirl but it diminishes, not enhances, your point.

And yes, applause and recognition has somehow come to be expected .... as though acknowledging Donald Trump's successes is such an incredible leap, and one I should be grateful for.

Life, never mind politics, doesn't work this way.  Being honest about the President's efforts and achievements should be expected.  Receiving a hug and some special prize for it should not be.

I'd be very happy if we could nip this expectation in the bud so we can just move on to the brave new world we're in now ... without dragging the primaries in tow.

Neither owes the other anything.

You want honesty about Trump's achievements?  Mostly small potatoes that will be wiped away by the next democrat president.  Mostly just meaningless red meat for his campaign followers - and for antifa - that doesn't meaningfully move the ball down the field. 

The only real accomplishment of any meaning and permanence is Justice Gorsuch.  However, Trump seems hellbent on making the price for that accomplishment so high that we won't see another republican president in the next 20 years once his single term finishes.   

[Smokin Joe]

Yeah, well....I wasn't referring to you personally.  I was referring to the establishment RINOs, ie the "pretenda Republicans and Conservatives".... and the radical Trump-haters that are in constant and 24/7 mode to destroy his presidency.  That doesn't apply to you does it?  If so, I have misjudged you.

I don't hate anyone. That said, I reserve the right to dislike the actions of people in their past, and extrapolate into the future using that basis that I do not expect much from them I will view in a positive way. In this instance, some of those later actions have left me pleasantly surprised.

But to root for failure of the POTUS when he is the closest thing to a conservative we have had in office for nearly a decade, no, for that would only hand the destructive legions of the Left an unqualified victory, something many voted against Hillary to deny them. No, I didn't want her, either, but in full understanding of the calculus of electoral votes in North Dakota, was entirely free to vote my conscience, and not punch the paper for either.

Be that as it may, I heartily wish the POTUS success in every Conservative endeavour conducted within the bounds of the Constitution, and success at reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government and returning power to the States and Liberty to the people, as I would wish for any President of the United States. It is to all our benefit to do so. If his endeavours are aligned with my principles, I'll support them. If I think he is wrong, I'll say so. Simple as that.

[XenaLee]

I don't hate anyone. That said, I reserve the right to dislike the actions of people in their past, and extrapolate into the future using that basis that I do not expect much from them I will view in a positive way. In this instance, some of those later actions have left me pleasantly surprised.

But to root for failure of the POTUS when he is the closest thing to a conservative we have had in office for nearly a decade, no, for that would only hand the destructive legions of the Left an unqualified victory, something many voted against Hillary to deny them. No, I didn't want her, either, but in full understanding of the calculus of electoral votes in North Dakota, was entirely free to vote my conscience, and not punch the paper for either.

Be that as it may, I heartily wish the POTUS success in every Conservative endeavour conducted within the bounds of the Constitution, and success at reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government and returning power to the States and Liberty to the people, as I would wish for any President of the United States. It is to all our benefit to do so. If his endeavours are aligned with my principles, I'll support them. If I think he is wrong, I'll say so. Simple as that.

Exactly my point....which illustrates that I was NOT addressing you.  Right?  We still on the same page here?  lol

[XenaLee]

You know, you are wasting your time attempting to reason with an unreasonable hack. You have once again eloquently stated beautifully in slightly different nuances the same exact thing you have stated several times before to this person in the past year.  It doesn't matter to her.  Your POV and position is irrelevant to even consider.   Unless you bow down to her demands and walk in lockstep to total fealty and cheerleading the party line, you are not someone whose argument is worthy of consideration.  This she has demonstrated ad nauseum, which is why there is no point bothering to explain to her or even persuade her to acknowledge there is merit in what you say.

If you dare post an acknowledgement of something good that serves the Conservative POV, she will come and suggest you are troll living under the stairs in your mother's basement as a response to pointing out a bullshit tactic being employed by the Left.  But yet she insists we are the ones who are off the deep and and refuse to credit Trump or defend him.  But when we do - we get this kind of shit from her.

All she knows to do is apply Alinsky's rule No. 5 and 12 liberally upon everyone that is not walking in lockstep with Party talking points.

Uhh..... did you just call me an "unreasonable hack"????  (oh no he di'int!)

 

[Oceander]

I don't hate anyone. That said, I reserve the right to dislike the actions of people in their past, and extrapolate into the future using that basis that I do not expect much from them I will view in a positive way. In this instance, some of those later actions have left me pleasantly surprised.

But to root for failure of the POTUS when he is the closest thing to a conservative we have had in office for nearly a decade, no, for that would only hand the destructive legions of the Left an unqualified victory, something many voted against Hillary to deny them. No, I didn't want her, either, but in full understanding of the calculus of electoral votes in North Dakota, was entirely free to vote my conscience, and not punch the paper for either.

Be that as it may, I heartily wish the POTUS success in every Conservative endeavour conducted within the bounds of the Constitution, and success at reducing the size and scope of the Federal Government and returning power to the States and Liberty to the people, as I would wish for any President of the United States. It is to all our benefit to do so. If his endeavours are aligned with my principles, I'll support them. If I think he is wrong, I'll say so. Simple as that.

Exactly!!!!


I would just add that so far, IMHO, he hasn't produced much that's worth congratulating him for. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

You want honesty about Trump's achievements?  Mostly small potatoes that will be wiped away by the next democrat president.  Mostly just meaningless red meat for his campaign followers ...

Yes, I want honesty about Trump's achievements and I want honesty about what's blocking his agenda. 

In fact, I'd like an honest discussion about the President's agenda --- because it's quite conservative and targeted toward increasing America's security and that of the "working class". 

I'd love to discuss real issues with you @Oceander but I have a very hard time taking you seriously when your focus is on the color orange, some fictitious god, me personally and posting this:     one hundred times a day.


So, let's talk about substance---without your fallback defenses.  If we agree to disagree at the end of intelligent discussions, so be it.

[INVAR]

Uhh..... did you just call me an "unreasonable hack"????  (oh no he di'int!)

 

Xena dear, I was not dressing you in my comments.  You are a lady, not a political hack.

[Oceander]

Yes, I want honesty about Trump's achievements and I want honesty about what's blocking his agenda. 

In fact, I'd like an honest discussion about the President's agenda --- because it's quite conservative and targeted toward increasing America's security and that of the "working class". 

I'd love to discuss real issues with you @Oceander but I have a very hard time taking you seriously when your focus is on the color orange, some fictitious god, me personally and posting this:     one hundred times a day.


So, let's talk about substance---without your fallback defenses.  If we agree to disagree at the end of an intelligent discussions, so be it.

Bulls*it.   His agenda is nothing more than incomprehensible bits of red meat thrown out strategically to maintain the reality TV atmosphere surrounding the White House. 

Call me when the pod people replace him with an adult of more than marginal competence. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Bulls*it.   His agenda is nothing more than incomprehensible bits of red meat thrown out strategically ....

Okay.  I'll leave you alone @Oceander .   

Thanks for replying.

[XenaLee]

Xena dear, I was not dressing you in my comments.  You are a lady, not a political hack.

Lol..... I won't even ask who that was really directed at....got a pretty good idea....heh.

[XenaLee]

Meanwhile....back at the ranch.... NK has launched a missile right over Japan. 

Here we go...

[Oceander]

Okay.  I'll leave you alone @Oceander .   

Thanks for replying.

I can't help it if you refuse to deal with reality, and I'm not going to get sucked into your sycophantic Trump worship cult. 

[RoosGirl]

Yes, I want honesty about Trump's achievements and I want honesty about what's blocking his agenda. 

In fact, I'd like an honest discussion about the President's agenda --- because it's quite conservative and targeted toward increasing America's security and that of the "working class". 

I'd love to discuss real issues with you @Oceander but I have a very hard time taking you seriously when your focus is on the color orange, some fictitious god, me personally and posting this:     one hundred times a day.


So, let's talk about substance---without your fallback defenses.  If we agree to disagree at the end of intelligent discussions, so be it.

You know and I know and pretty much all of us know that this is just false.  You have no interest in talking substance with those of us who disagree with you.  Evidence?  All you've done on this thread is post pictures of Cruz and bitch & moan about posts not conforming to your expectations.  You've not posted one comment here with substance; it's just a critique of various members.  Everyone that has posted has said the author is full of crap.  I posted the thread because here we go again with the left claiming a Republican president was not going to leave office at the end of his term.  If you just don't like the OP or the comments about it, take a walk.  No one was sitting around wishing you would come and tell us how to improve our posting style.  If you've got something to say about Trump leaving or not leaving office when he's supposed to then say it.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

First, putting aside Trump's limitations with the English language, from what he has said, I think he will follow the constitution.

Second, who would want to stay in that office any longer than required just to stand as the world's punching bag?

Looks like @aligncare is going to win it with the last on-topic post to this thread.

Funny thing is I suspect we ALL had the same reaction when we read the headline.

[Oceander]

Looks like @aligncare is going to win it with the last on-topic post to this thread.

Funny thing is I suspect we ALL had the same reaction when we read the headline.

Basically, yes.  I have no doubt whatsoever that Trump will do just as every other president has done and freely vacate the office of president when his term is over.  IMHO, anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. 

[Polly Ticks]

Funny thing is I suspect we ALL had the same reaction when we read the headline.

I suspect you're right.

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[Wingnut]

Final words and deep thoughts to live by:

Some threads are just too stupid to live on.
Peace out.

[GtHawk]

Final words and deep thoughts to live by:

Some threads are just too stupid to live on.
Peace out.

Sir, when you speak the truth, it is the TRUTH!
@Wingnut

[Wingnut]

Sir, when you speak the truth, it is the TRUTH!
@Wingnut

Shocking ain't it.   

[Oceander]

Final words and deep thoughts to live by:

Some threads are just too stupid to live on.
Peace out.

And yet, here we are, prolonging it!