GOP Congressman Says His Constituents Want Them to Unite to Get Trump Agenda Accomplished

[Mesaclone]

The only way Republicans might change is if the party loses both houses and the presidency.  And that scenario appears more and more likely every day. 

That kind of thinking is how Socialist tyranny is born. It's the "if the Repubs aren't perfect let's bring in the Commies" kind of thinking that brings down the Republic. The GOP with all its warts is a beauty queen next to the ugly stepsister that is the new American Left. A 2 year old could see the dramatic differences.

[kevindavis007]

I refuse to vote for the Republican to "save us" from the Democrat.  IMO, there is no difference anymore.  The Republicans are systematically throwing out anyone who is conservative and installing more and more liberals. I will never vote for a liberal.

The only way Republicans might change is if the party loses both houses and the presidency.  And that scenario appears more and more likely every day.  Instead of pointing fingers at conservatives, maybe the party should get a clue and return to its roots.  Unfortunately, with idiots like McConnell and Ryan at the helm, that isn't likely.

I don't expect politicians to save us. Nor do I see politicians as saviours.

[Cripplecreek]

I don't expect politicians to save us. Nor do I see politicians as saviours.

Trump stood on the nomination stage and declared that he alone could fix it.

[kevindavis007]

Trump stood on the nomination stage and declared that he alone could fix it.

That is correct. We should know better than to trust one person to fix everything.  This is not how this Government was setup.

[bigheadfred]

That is correct. We should know better than to trust one person to fix everything.  This is not how this Government was setup.

I don't trust 545 of them. It is a setup all right.

[DCPatriot]

I refuse to vote for the Republican to "save us" from the Democrat.  IMO, there is no difference anymore.  The Republicans are systematically throwing out anyone who is conservative and installing more and more liberals. I will never vote for a liberal.

That is simply not true. 

Trying to understand why you would claim such a thing, the first thing I'm wondering is your age.  That's not meant to be a slam.

As @Mesaclone pointed out, a two-year old should be able to see the difference between today's Democrats and the GOP.

The DEMS have become out-and-out National Socialists.  Antifa is Obama's wet dream.  The makeup of the SCOTUS would ensure a far Left activist bent.   Say goodbye to the Second Amendment.   If not the 1st.

So, your personal principles outweigh the outcome of the battle. 

Okay, but I don't find that admirable on any level.  In fact, it's shameful.

The only way Republicans might change is if the party loses both houses and the presidency.  And that scenario appears more and more likely every day.  Instead of pointing fingers at conservatives, maybe the party should get a clue and return to its roots.  Unfortunately, with idiots like McConnell and Ryan at the helm, that isn't likely.

Wake up.  Do you think this is a joke?

Conservatives are being portrayed as Fascists and Racists by the mainstream media...the teachers.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump stood on the nomination stage and declared that he alone could fix it.

No he didn't.   Candidate Trump's message was "I am your voice"




And in his inaugural address, President Trump confirmed:

"January 20th 2017 will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again."  --  President Donald J. Trump

@Cripplecreek

[aligncare]

Well, looks like this discussion answers the question I posed last night.

"NeverTrump or Trump agnostics: Have you ever supported or praised an action Obama took? Anything at all."

My point. Some of us opposed Obama based solely on his agenda. We knew the direction he was going, it was no secret. So what would come of Obama's agenda if we showed Obama 'the man', any support at all?

I'll tell you, it would have given him the benefit of the doubt in polls and on the editorial pages and given a boost to his overall agenda, a direction we didn't want to go. Remember, the media was on his side and any words of praise from republicans would be amplified and twisted into  being widespread support for Obama's full agenda.

So, we could criticize Trump and his character flaws – Lord knows we have none – but to what end? We know that the media is on a mission to take Trump out, so criticism would have an opposite effect in the case of Trump. It would only help to diminish him in the public sphere and hurt his chances of moving his agenda forward – the direction we do want to go.

And now I'll take my leave before the screams of "Trump's a New York liberal and wears Nazi jack boots" begin.

[Oceander]

Well, looks like this discussion answers the question I posed last night.

"NeverTrump or Trump agnostics: Have you ever supported or praised an action Obama took? Anything at all."

My point. Some of us opposed Obama based solely on his agenda. We knew the direction he was going, it was no secret. So what would come of Obama's agenda if we showed Obama 'the man', any support at all?

I'll tell you, it would have given him the benefit of the doubt in polls and on the editorial pages and given a boost to his overall agenda, a direction we didn't want to go. Remember, the media was on his side and any words of praise from republicans would be amplified and twisted into  being widespread support for Obama's full agenda.

So, we could criticize Trump and his character flaws – Lord knows we have none – but to what end? We know that the media is on a mission to take Trump out, so criticism would have an opposite effect in the case of Trump. It would only help to diminish him in the public sphere and hurt his chances of moving his agenda forward – the direction we do want to go.

And now I'll take my leave before the screams of "Trump's a New York liberal and wears Nazi jack boots" begin.

Trump doesn't need your help, or anyone else's, to make himself look bad; he's more than capable of doing that all by himself.  In fact, all he needs is a smartphone and a twitter account. 

[Cripplecreek]

No he didn't.   Candidate Trump's message was "I am your voice"




And in his inaugural address, President Trump confirmed:

@Cripplecreek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsx2IyhGlow

[Applewood]

That kind of thinking is how Socialist tyranny is born. It's the "if the Repubs aren't perfect let's bring in the Commies" kind of thinking that brings down the Republic. The GOP with all its warts is a beauty queen next to the ugly stepsister that is the new American Left. A 2 year old could see the dramatic differences.

Well, I'm still a baby, so maybe you can explain those differences to me because I don't see them.  The party has been moving left for a number of years.  It and the Democratic party are two divisions of one party now.  One might be slightly less liberal than the other, but the fact is both divisions believe in almost the same things.  Both parties are corrupt.  Both parties want government ruling our lives.  Neither party is interested in serving our needs, but rather, their own.  The Obamacare repeal debacle is a good example. 

You talk about socialist tyranny.  Well, it looks to me like it's already here.  If you think Republicans will save us from that tyranny, you are wrong.  Both parties want it.    Although it's the libs who talk about single payer, for example, don't think for a minute that the liberal Republicans don't want government health care too.  The very thought of having control over whether we live or die is very intoxicating.  It's the ultimate high for all of them, Democrat and Republican alike.

You say I have to vote Republican to "save the country from the Democrats."  Well, since the Republicans want the same things as Democrats, who will "save the country" from the Republicans?

[bilo]

I refuse to vote for the Republican to "save us" from the Democrat.  IMO, there is no difference anymore.  The Republicans are systematically throwing out anyone who is conservative and installing more and more liberals. I will never vote for a liberal.

The only way Republicans might change is if the party loses both houses and the presidency.  And that scenario appears more and more likely every day. Instead of pointing fingers at conservatives, maybe the party should get a clue and return to its roots.  Unfortunately, with idiots like McConnell and Ryan at the helm, that isn't likely.

 

Pres. Trump is surrounded more and more by liberals so I really don't see him holding the line either. It's pretty depressing to see the Pubs fail so terribly.

I'm with you I won't vote for a liberal either and the "moderates" in the Pub party are no different.

[bilo]

That kind of thinking is how Socialist tyranny is born. It's the "if the Repubs aren't perfect let's bring in the Commies" kind of thinking that brings down the Republic. The GOP with all its warts is a beauty queen next to the ugly stepsister that is the new American Left. A 2 year old could see the dramatic differences.

Nonsense.

Conservatives have been more than willing to compromise, but it's never enough. Conservatives looked to be willing to put with about anything with the obamacare repeal/replace fiasco as long as Sen Cruz's amendment was included, but it wasn't enough. The old argument that we should accept big liberal programs as long as we get a little conservative tidbit makes no sense. The majority of the country does not want govt. making our individual healthcare decisions for us. We gave the Pubs the House, Senate and Executive and they couldn't even pass the same repeal bill they had passed in 2015. It's the same old story we've seen for 40 years, "just elect more Pubs and we will get it done."

I'll help elect Pubs when it actually means they will do what they said they will do.   

[bilo]

Well, looks like this discussion answers the question I posed last night.

"NeverTrump or Trump agnostics: Have you ever supported or praised an action Obama took? Anything at all."

My point. Some of us opposed Obama based solely on his agenda. We knew the direction he was going, it was no secret. So what would come of Obama's agenda if we showed Obama 'the man', any support at all?

I'll tell you, it would have given him the benefit of the doubt in polls and on the editorial pages and given a boost to his overall agenda, a direction we didn't want to go. Remember, the media was on his side and any words of praise from republicans would be amplified and twisted into  being widespread support for Obama's full agenda.

So, we could criticize Trump and his character flaws – Lord knows we have none – but to what end? We know that the media is on a mission to take Trump out, so criticism would have an opposite effect in the case of Trump. It would only help to diminish him in the public sphere and hurt his chances of moving his agenda forward – the direction we do want to go.

And now I'll take my leave before the screams of "Trump's a New York liberal and wears Nazi jack boots" begin.

I didn't vote for Pres. Trump, but I am willing to support him when he tries to fulfill his campaign promises. I've been let down by the Pub party that didn't take this rare opportunity to actually do what they promised to do. Every time Pres. Trump has shown his lack of political skill it's the same Pub party leaders/elites who can't wait to criticize him. These same legislative leaders could have put any bill on his desk and he would have signed them and because the Pub party has no discipline and want to waste their time with the same moral preening as the Rats nothing has gotten done.

I wanted Sen. Cruz, but with the lack of support for Pres. Trump it's become clear to me that the problem isn't Pres. Trump. The problem is the Pub party doesn't represent the people who elected them.

[bigheadfred]

I didn't vote for Pres. Trump, but I am willing to support him when he tries to fulfill his campaign promises. I've been let down by the Pub party that didn't take this rare opportunity to actually do what they promised to do. Every time Pres. Trump has shown his lack of political skill it's the same Pub party leaders/elites who can't wait to criticize him. These same legislative leaders could have put any bill on his desk and he would have signed them and because the Pub party has no discipline and want to waste their time with the same moral preening as the Rats nothing has gotten done.

I wanted Sen. Cruz, but with the lack of support for Pres. Trump it's become clear to me that the problem isn't Pres. Trump. The problem is the Pub party doesn't represent the people who elected them.

Exactly.

[Fishrrman]

bigheadfred wrote:
"I don't trust 545 of them. It is a setup all right."

545 Congressmen/Senators.

Hey, that's like 57 states, right?  ;)

[truth_seeker]

I refuse to vote for the Republican to "save us" from the Democrat.  IMO, there is no difference anymore.  The Republicans are systematically throwing out anyone who is conservative and installing more and more liberals. I will never vote for a liberal.

How so?  I thought the voters in each district voted for candidates. I am surprised to learn that is false, and that the GOP appoints who they want.

I must brush up on my civics.

[bigheadfred]

bigheadfred wrote:
"I don't trust 545 of them. It is a setup all right."

545 Congressmen/Senators.

Hey, that's like 57 states, right?  ;)

Just counting all of them.

535 C/Sers
1 Potus
9 black robed witches

[Fishrrman]

bigheadfred wrote:
"Just counting all of them.
535 C/Sers
1 Potus
9 black robed witches"

Heck fred, I guess I been re-edjudicated.
Your math is better'n mine!
Good on ya!

[Bigun]

That is so down in the weeds only 50% here even know what you are talking about...... not that you are wrong, that would be a good start.

But the schmucks ..both parties have to get re-elected.

I am afraid we will have to grow ourselves out of the immediate fiscal trouble. That means...the Trump agenda...more or less.

@Fantom

An agenda which COULD be fully implemented with the passage of a single bill now languishing in the House Ways and Means Committee!  HR25 to be precise.

[Bigun]

So you are going to either sit at home and the let dem win or vote 3rd party correct?

A quick bullet to the brain or slitting my wrists.  Both have the same end result but one takes a little longer than the other to get there.