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Since before he even entered the White House, the word impeachment has swirled around President Donald Trump. But now, after his equating of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with those who oppose them, one Democrat is calling for Trump to be removed from office without the need for a lengthy impeachment process.

Representative Jackie Speier of California has advocated for Vice President Mike Pence and the Cabinet’s use of the 25th Amendment to declare Trump unable to discharge the powers of the presidency.

Since before he even entered the White House, the word impeachment has swirled around President Donald Trump. But now, after his equating of neo-Nazis and white supremacists with those who oppose them, one Democrat is calling for Trump to be removed from office without the need for a lengthy impeachment process.

Representative Jackie Speier of California has advocated for Vice President Mike Pence and the Cabinet’s use of the 25th Amendment to declare Trump unable to discharge the powers of the presidency.

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Personally, I believe this is a leftist pipe dream, but if it did occur the consequences would be far reaching.
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What high crime has Trump committed that is worthy of impeachment?
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None, which is why this ridiculous theory is being bandied about.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/impeaching-trump-may-not-necessary-190609433.html

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So ... let me get this straight.  President Trump has committed no misdemeanor or high crimes, yet they plan on removing him from office without impeachment.  On the other hand Clinton was impeached, but they never removed him from office.  Got it.    22222frying pan
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This concerted effort to remove him is scary.  I never imagined we would see this.  That they didn't try this with Obama is also telling.  The egop deserves to rot in hell.
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So ... let me get this straight.  President Trump has committed no misdemeanor or high crimes, yet they plan on removing him from office without impeachment.  On the other hand Clinton was impeached, but they never removed him from office.  Got it.    22222frying pan

Clinton was impeached, but not convicted. It's similar to being indicted and receiving a not guilty verdict.  The 25th amendment is a good idea, in principle. If it had been around at the time, it could've been used and probably should have been, to remove Wilson during his second term.
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This concerted effort to remove him is scary.  I never imagined we would see this.  That they didn't try this with Obama is also telling.  The egop deserves to rot in hell.

First and foremost, Trump won the election. For the establishment to now try and remove him is scary. I'm waiting for Cruz and Lee on this one ... the Constitution and the vote of the people should stand. If they succeed in removing him, then our votes truly no longer count and we are no longer are a republic.  IMHO he must be getting very close to proving the corruption of certain individuals and holding them accountable (draining the swamp).  Their only hope now is to try to remove him from office before he succeeds. If they should remove him from office; I don't see people sitting back and remaining calm.  Perhaps this is the real reason why Pence is cutting his trip short.  Sorry, but I think Pence was Trump's biggest mistake.
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Re: Impeaching Trump May Not Be Necessary to Remove Him From the White House
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2017, 02:26:00 am »
First and foremost, Trump won the election. For the establishment to now try and remove him is scary. I'm waiting for Cruz and Lee on this one ... the Constitution and the vote of the people should stand. If they succeed in removing him, then our votes truly no longer count and we are no longer are a republic.

The 25th Amendment is part of the Constitution.   They have an uphill climb to show it's applicable here. However, it could used to remove a duly elected President.
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Re: Impeaching Trump May Not Be Necessary to Remove Him From the White House
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2017, 02:28:51 am »
Bill Clinton's place in history is being the only elected President to ever be impeached.  I want that legacy to remain in place for at least a century.
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Re: Impeaching Trump May Not Be Necessary to Remove Him From the White House
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