Ted Cruz Calls Charlottesville Car Attack Deliberate ‘Domestic Terrorism’, Urges Justice Dept. Investigation

[Oceander]

@Cripplecreek

No,and it also doesn't take a genius to know who started the violence. WHO shows up at political protests as organized anarchists with masks,goggles,helmets,and a change of clothes as well as weapons in backpacks.

Which group riots,sets fire to police cars,buildings,loots stores,sets fire to stores,and uses gang tactics to pile on and physically attack opposition marchers or protesters?

WHICH group glorifies anarchy as an acceptable political step?

WHICH group was throwing bottles filled with cement at the members of the other group?

WHICH group is dedicated to the overthrow of the US Government and the establishment of a communist government?

WHICH group is calling a man with Jewish children and grandchildren a Nazi sympathizer and implying wants to send non-whites/non-Christians off to concentration camps,and more importantly WHY THE HELL do ANY of you give those people ANY credibility? Do you REALLY miss the alleged version of the Democratic Party being in office THAT much?

It also doesn't,or at least SHOULDN'T take a genius to figure out the loon that ran into those people with his car IS a loon that is NOT representative of the other protesters BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE DID ANYTHING SIMILAR.

Some black bitch talking head was on tv this morning "educating" us all on how Lee and the other confederates were traitors and never deserved to be honored,and NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON SITTING AROUND THAT TABLE HAD EITHER THE KNOWLEDGE OR THE STONES TO CORRECT HER.

THE HISTORICAL TRUTH is that the original 13 states that joined together to form a federal government INSISTED there be a clause in the Articles of Confederation that created the new nation that if at any time in the future the federal government violated the articles of confederation any or all of them had a RIGHT to withdraw from the federal government. The south did this,and Lincoln refused to allow them to do WHAT WAS THEIR LEGAL RIGHT.

It was LINCOLN and the northern bankers that started the Civil War,period!

What part of the Constitution lets a state withdraw?

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

Does Teddy return your manlove? I've always suspected he was a switch-hitter.

You sound jealous.

[sneakypete]

Bigotry, hatred and intentional acts of violence against innocent people are always wrong.

If Americans cannot come together over that principle in spite of our political differences, then we have no future as a nation.

@andy58-in-nh

I  used to have hope it would all even out after the USSR collapsed,and then communism started collapsing all over the world.

Unfortunately,it seems like the communists in America saw that as a reason to dig in deeper and double their efforts.

I am no longer optimistic.  I think things have gone so far now that there will either be nationwide violence,or America will cease to exist without even putting up a fight.

"Liberalism isn't really about making the world a better place. It's about reassuring the elites that they are good people for wanting to rule over it."

BTW,GREAT tag line!

[Hoodat]

What part of the Constitution lets a state withdraw?

You have it backwards.  The Constitution does not grant rights.  It restricts the power of government.  So the question should be:
  What part of the Constitution prevents a State from withdrawing?

This is a question that Virginia asked before ratifying the Constitution.  And the answer to that question was 'nothing prevents a State from withdrawing'.

[Oceander]

You have it backwards.  The Constitution does not grant rights.  It restricts the power of government.  So the question should be:
  What part of the Constitution prevents a State from withdrawing?

This is a question that Virginia asked before ratifying the Constitution.  And the answer to that question was 'nothing prevents a State from withdrawing'.

That's so bad it's not even wrong, to paraphrase Fermi. 

[jpsb]

Cruz is quickly becoming a human chancre sore. I have a hard time believing I ever supported him. I guess I fell for his "tell the rubes what they want to hear" bs,just like everyone else. He didn't get the alleged Republican nomination,so maybe now he's maneuvering for the Dim nomination next time?

He's just another whore,selling himself to the highest bidder.

How come the weasel isn't demanding any of the counter-protesters that attacked the peaceful marchers be arrested?

I think you are being a little hard on lying Ted. He is a sleazy opportunist, but he is our sleazy opportunist. I intend to vote for him again in 2018 unless our other sleazy opportunist, Dan Patrick runs. That would be a dilemma.

We have no shortage of sleazy opportunists here in Texas.

[Hoodat]

For the record, here is the statement of Sen. Ted Cruz:

    “It’s tragic and heartbreaking to see hatred and racism once again mar our great Nation with bloodshed. Heidi’s and my prayers are with the loved ones of those killed and injured in the ongoing violence in Charlottesville. The First Amendment protects the rights of all Americans to speak their minds peaceably, but violence, brutality, and murder have no place in a civilized society.

    The Nazis, the KKK, and white supremacists are repulsive and evil, and all of us have a moral obligation to speak out against the lies, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred that they propagate. Having watched the horrifying video of the car deliberately crashing into a crowd of protesters, I urge the Department of Justice to immediately investigate and prosecute this grotesque act of domestic terrorism.

    These bigots want to tear our country apart, but they will fail. America is far better than this. Our Nation was built on fundamental truths, none more central than the proposition ‘that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.'”

I find no fault in anything Cruz has said here.  I share his sentiments on the evils of lies, bigotry, and hate.  And I share his love for Jefferson's words in our Declaration of who we are to be as a nation.

Yet there are opportunists here who exude nothing but contempt for this.

[andy58-in-nh]

White supremacists are few in number, small of mind, and are largely inspired by fear and inchoate rage against people they wish to dominate.

The "Antifa" protestors are far greater in number, but similarly inspired.

We ought not be driven to distraction by the fact that the smaller group is denounced by the mainstream news media, while the larger one is given a pass on their noxious behavior, or even given open sympathy.

Wrong is wrong. Americans are still governed by a Constitution and ought to be constrained in their behavior by the ideas it represents.

There is but one way to reclaim the nation we once had: not by warring upon each other, but by turning back to the purposes upon which our nation was founded, respecting our differences, acknowledging our individual responsibilities, and moreover: by honoring each others' God-given rights.

[jpsb]

@dfwgator

WRONG. The left NEEDS a race war in order to create the anarchy they need to have their leaders in government declare Martial Law to suspend the Constitution so they have the US military to help them bust heads and seize power.

The thing they are VERY aware of but most people seem able to ignore is that once the government declares a state of Martial Law exists and suspends the Bill of Rights "for the duration of the emergency",THEY are the ONLY ones with the authority to declare the emergency is over. What do YOU think the odds are of them voluntarily removing themselves from absolute dictatorial power?

Didn't FDR declare some king of an emergency? IIRC that "emergency" has yet to be declared over.

[sneakypete]

You have it backwards.  The Constitution does not grant rights.  It restricts the power of government.  So the question should be:
  What part of the Constitution prevents a State from withdrawing?

This is a question that Virginia asked before ratifying the Constitution.  And the answer to that question was 'nothing prevents a State from withdrawing'.

@Hoodat

It's a shame more people don't realize that. It is the reason why people from the south refer to it as "Mr Lincoln's War of Northern Aggression",and others say it was the announcement of the beginning of the end of America.

[sneakypete]

That's so bad it's not even wrong, to paraphrase Fermi.

@Oceander

Be clear. Are you trying to avoid saying that is wrong,or are you claiming it is actually wrong? No weasel words,say what you mean.

[Oceander]

@Hoodat

It's a shame more people don't realize that. It is the reason why people from the south refer to it as "Mr Lincoln's War of Northern Aggression",and others say it was the announcement of the beginning of the end of America.

Yeah, the Constitution is nothing more than a voluntary garden party, where you can come and go as you please. 

[sneakypete]

I think you are being a little hard on lying Ted. He is a sleazy opportunist, but he is our sleazy opportunist. I intend to vote for him again in 2018 unless our other sleazy opportunist, Dan Patrick runs. That would be a dilemma.

We have no shortage of sleazy opportunists here in Texas.

@jpsb

Or anywhere else.

[sneakypete]

For the record, here is the statement of Sen. Ted Cruz:

    “It’s tragic and heartbreaking to see hatred and racism once again mar our great Nation with bloodshed. Heidi’s and my prayers are with the loved ones of those killed and injured in the ongoing violence in Charlottesville. The First Amendment protects the rights of all Americans to speak their minds peaceably, but violence, brutality, and murder have no place in a civilized society.

    The Nazis, the KKK, and white supremacists are repulsive and evil, and all of us have a moral obligation to speak out against the lies, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred that they propagate. Having watched the horrifying video of the car deliberately crashing into a crowd of protesters, I urge the Department of Justice to immediately investigate and prosecute this grotesque act of domestic terrorism.

    These bigots want to tear our country apart, but they will fail. America is far better than this. Our Nation was built on fundamental truths, none more central than the proposition ‘that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.'”

I find no fault in anything Cruz has said here.  I share his sentiments on the evils of lies, bigotry, and hate.  And I share his love for Jefferson's words in our Declaration of who we are to be as a nation.

Yet there are opportunists here who exude nothing but contempt for this.

@Hoodat

WHERE was his criticism of the violence of the anti-protest marchers?

His silence on this speaks louder than anything else he has ever said.

[Cripplecreek]

For the record, here is the statement of Sen. Ted Cruz:

I feel pretty confident that Reagan would approve.

How a man handles the Klan.

REAGAN SPURNS KLAN SUPPORT
UPI
Published: May 2, 1984

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/05/02/us/reagan-spurns-klan-support.html

''Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

''The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood.''

Reagan did mention "others" but he specifically singled out the klan because he wasn't a morally compromised man.

[Hoodat]

Cruz leads a GOP backlash to ‘Black Lives Matter’ rhetoric

[sneakypete]

White supremacists are few in number, small of mind, and are largely inspired by fear and inchoate rage against people they wish to dominate.

The "Antifa" protestors are far greater in number, but similarly inspired.

True.

We ought not be driven to distraction by the fact that the smaller group is denounced by the mainstream news media, while the larger one is given a pass on their noxious behavior, or even given open sympathy.

Distraction? We need to FOCUS on this and call them on it every time they use it.

Wrong is wrong.

In an ideal world,it is. We don't live in an ideal world,though.

Americans are still governed by a Constitution and ought to be constrained in their behavior by the ideas it represents.

Well,the biggest problem here seems to ME to be that the US Constitution now means whatever any political opportunist with power wants it to mean.

Which,granted,is mostly our own fault for not insisting the words and intent of the Constitution be taught in schools. Most people today don't have a clue about what it represents. Hell,most Americans today think we are a freaking Democracy.

There is but one way to reclaim the nation we once had: not by warring upon each other, but by turning back to the purposes upon which our nation was founded, respecting our differences, acknowledging our individual responsibilities, and moreover: by honoring each others' God-given rights.

Truly noble thoughts,but things have gone so far now it's not going to happen.

Civil War seems to be a certainty in both the US and in Europe.Maybe/probably Russia also,but unlike Europe and North America,Russia isn't still a truly open society,so there is a lot going on there even know that is only suspected,not known.

Thanks to computers and the internet,the international banking families that have been shadow governments since the dawn of civilization finally have the ability to totally control huge populations all over the world,so they are now working on their plan to have the people of the various nations destroy their governments for them (the bankers) so they can step in and take control where control no longer exists.

These revolutions won't concern them at all because they will just get on their private yachts or private planes,and go off to vacation at one of their estates in Argentina or some similar place,and just wait it out in safety and comfort. When things begin to become stable again,they will emerge with their wealth and use it to take over.

America,for example,will no longer exist. America,Mexico,and Canada will be merged and renamed something like "The North American Economic Zone",and our leaders will be appointed by the board members (the international banking families) of "World Wide Government,Inc".

You will either fight,or you will become a speed bump. There are no other options. Elections are a joke. Trump was an abberation,but with his exception,the only people getting elected these days to lead ANY nation are leftist figureheads that are owned by the bankers.

You will know it is time to fight the day they announce the end of cash money,and say they will go digital and issue everyone a unique digital ID number to control all their accounts and other business and personal dealings. Once you have this number and cash is illegal,they will no longer have to worry about facing a resistance because any time anyone even ATTEMPTS to cause them any grief,all they have to do is have one of their minimum wage trolls hit the "delete" button on your account ID,and you will no longer exist.  You won't even be able to buy a cup of coffee at the convenience store where you went to place the toll free number to tell the authories where you are waiting to be picked up because you will no longer exist officially anywhere but as a number that needs to be picked up and sent to a re-education labor camp or executed.

[jpsb]

The instant in time where Cruz loses the GOP nomination to Trump.

http://youtu.be/qz2636C7Rr4?t=60

[Hoodat]

The instant in time where Cruz loses the GOP nomination to Trump.

The instance in time where a Cruz-hater was able to cite the lie that 'Lying Ted' told.

[Suppressed]

I would be shocked as well since it is impossible to prove a negative.  But then logic never was your strong suit.

Actually, it is wrong to say it's impossible to prove a negative. That's a common fallacy.

For example, if you can prove a light switch is on, you can prove that it's not off.

[andy58-in-nh]

Distraction? We need to FOCUS on this and call them on it every time they use it.

In an ideal world,it is. We don't live in an ideal world,though.

Well,the biggest problem here seems to ME to be that the US Constitution now means whatever any political opportunist with power wants it to mean.

Which,granted,is mostly our own fault for not insisting the words and intent of the Constitution be taught in schools. Most people today don't have a clue about what it represents. Hell,most Americans today think we are a freaking Democracy.

Truly noble thoughts,but things have gone so far now it's not going to happen.

I appreciate your comments.

I'll answer this way:

Truth is not dependent upon a society's dominant values, nor upon situational ethics. What was wrong in ancient Greece, or in medieval France, or in colonial America, or in Nazi Germany, is still wrong today, everywhere.

Yes, we are thankfully not a Democracy, but a Republic governed by democratic institutions, which is a vastly different thing. The duty of a people in such a Republic is to obey the laws of their land and also, those of the God that made its foundational principles discoverable to the men who created it.

In this instance, it means appealing to people of good will, to the better instincts of their minds and purposes of their hearts so that we may find a common ground upon which to stand, for the purpose of advancing individual liberty, the protection of human life, the security of property and the unencumbered pursuit of our dreams.     

[endicom]

Not widely known is that 7 Up originally contained lithium.

[dfwgator]

So why aren't they calling this guy a "lone wolf", unlike every time a Muslim commits an act of terror?

[Hoodat]

Actually, it is wrong to say it's impossible to prove a negative. That's a common fallacy.

For example, if you can prove a light switch is on, you can prove that it's not off.

That is a binary choice.  In that example, 'NOT OFF' is equivalent to 'ON'.  There is no 'unknown'.

[andy58-in-nh]

Not widely known is that 7 Up originally contained lithium.

Well, if it had contained barbiturates, it would have been called "7 Down".