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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2017, 02:37:02 am »
That would be a stupid move.

Its a stupid move just to say it.  Whyever would we get involved militarily in Venezuela?  Trump needs to learn when to keep his trap shut. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2017, 02:46:16 am »
I do not believe anybody on this forum, know our capabilities or strength.

If they do, they should not be saying.

If they are saying, they do not know.

Just saying.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2017, 02:47:03 am »
Its a stupid move just to say it.  Whyever would we get involved militarily in Venezuela?  Trump needs to learn when to keep his trap shut. Unfortunately I doubt that will happen.

He appearently believes that just by invoking the threat of the U.S. military it will make people quake in their Mao suits.

And that just isn't the case right now.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #53 on: August 12, 2017, 02:48:01 am »
I do not believe anybody on this forum, know our capabilities or strength.

If they do, they should not be saying.

If they are saying, they do not know.

Just saying.

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Just shut up if you can't say anything relevant about the topic.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #54 on: August 12, 2017, 03:07:55 am »
There are no OpSec violations.  If there were I'd be the first to let the owner and the Mods know.

Just shut up if you can't say anything relevant about the topic.

Gee there soldier, you are taking things personally. I did not write that, to you.

I wrote that to suggest to those outside the military, to not look on political forums for correct info on classified matters (hopefully).

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« Reply #55 on: August 12, 2017, 03:10:11 am »
Gee there soldier, you are taking things personally. I did not write that, to you.

I take anything from someone talking out of ignorance about the military personally.

What you said was stupid and uncalled for.

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I wrote that to suggest to those outside the military, to not look on political forums for correct info on classified matters (hopefully).

Cut the crap.  You floated the notion of an OpSec violation to scare people off from posting on this thread pure and simple.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2017, 03:15:11 am »
I guess we can drop the Bush is a war mongering neocon BS now that Trump is threatening apparently random wars to make himself feel good or something.

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« Reply #57 on: August 12, 2017, 03:16:52 am »
I guess we can drop the Bush is a war mongering neocon BS now that Trump is threatening apparently random wars to make himself feel good or something.

I wondered where the leader of the THB band was. 

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #58 on: August 12, 2017, 03:19:32 am »
I take anything from someone talking out of ignorance about the military personally.

What you said was stupid and uncalled for.

Cut the crap.  You floated the notion of an OpSec violation to scare people off from posting on this thread pure and simple.

"I take anything from someone talking out of ignorance about the military personally."

You are imagining words that were not written. I respect your service.

When I served, I held a Secret clearance, and prepared daily strength reports, for secure transmission to higher Hq. My superiors were continually reminding us to be careful, to include mingling with civilians, when off duty. Seriously.

That is hardly "ignorance about the military."

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #59 on: August 12, 2017, 03:23:25 am »
   Who needs Viagra when you can have the satisfaction of wiping a country off the face of the Earth... @Cripplecreek
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #60 on: August 12, 2017, 03:26:45 am »
I wondered where the leader of the THB band was.

What's THB?

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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #61 on: August 12, 2017, 03:28:29 am »
Who needs Viagra when you can have the satisfaction of wiping a country off the face of the Earth.

Tomahawk and Minuteman III missiles are very phallic.
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« Reply #62 on: August 12, 2017, 03:28:48 am »
What's THB?

A special club. Trump Hating Briefers.  They are legion.

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« Reply #63 on: August 12, 2017, 03:32:27 am »
   Who needs Viagra when you can have the satisfaction of wiping a country off the face of the Earth... @Cripplecreek

It sure seems to excite the chairborne rangers who are rubbing themselves raw with excitement over the prospect of 2 new wars they can watch on TV.

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« Reply #64 on: August 12, 2017, 03:35:04 am »
It sure seems to excite the chairborne rangers who are rubbing themselves raw with excitement over the prospect of 2 new wars they can watch on TV.

Maybe they have stock in Raytheon.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #65 on: August 12, 2017, 03:35:27 am »
A special club. Trump Hating Briefers.  They are legion.

   I have an aversion to the hate word, @Wingnut
   I don't hate Trump or anyone else, I would certainly settle for RDT, Really Dislike Trump or something similar and another part of our important coalition are the RDE's Really Dislike Everything, between the two of us you Trumpers are screwed.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #66 on: August 12, 2017, 03:42:59 am »
Maybe they have stock in Raytheon.

Funny you should say that.  From a thread at TOS yesterday.....

To: eagleone

And it takes months to move the hundreds of thousands of tons of supplies.
Speaking of presence in the region, whatever happened to that Task Force that was sailing toward Korea in the spring? It was watched breathlessly for a couple months, then faded away.

Raytheon makes the Tomahawk cruise missile. They've had a good run, but no more so than the market in general. If the market were,anticipating war, I think RTN would break out.

 

14 posted on 8/10/2017, 6:50:08 PM by ProtectOurFreedom
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« Reply #67 on: August 12, 2017, 03:44:05 am »
Funny you should say that.  From a thread at TOS yesterday.....

To: eagleone

And it takes months to move the hundreds of thousands of tons of supplies.
Speaking of presence in the region, whatever happened to that Task Force that was sailing toward Korea in the spring? It was watched breathlessly for a couple months, then faded away.

Raytheon makes the Tomahawk cruise missile. They've had a good run, but no more so than the market in general. If the market were,anticipating war, I think RTN would break out.

 

14 posted on 8/10/2017, 6:50:08 PM by ProtectOurFreedom

Man they are predictable.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2017, 03:45:32 am »
There are no OpSec violations.  If there were I'd be the first to let the owner and the Mods know.

Just shut up if you can't say anything relevant about the topic.

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« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2017, 03:46:04 am »
A special club. Trump Hating Briefers.  They are legion.

Dang.  I wonder if they have a secret handshake.

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« Reply #70 on: August 12, 2017, 03:47:29 am »
Dang.  I wonder if they have a secret handshake.
No but they do have dues.  Where do you think the sprinkles for the donuts come from?
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« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2017, 03:54:06 am »
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I have the utmost respect for your service my friend but will tell you with 100% certainty that YOU do not know what our full capabilities are!

Never claimed I did.  But it is utter nonsense and political suicide to think we have the capabilities to carry out what Trump is threatening right now.

I know enough about the current state of forces t say that anyone who thinks we can plan airstriks in the PI...send troops to Venezuela while attacking North Korea AND maintain force levels in Iraq Afghanistan and rotations to Europe is SEVERLY delusional.

Even Trump has said the state of the military is a disaster.

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The state of the military is a “disaster,” it is “depleted,” and as president he will “rebuild” it.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2016/1027/Why-Trump-says-the-state-of-US-military-is-a-disaster

Nothing has been rebuilt yet...thre's only been lipservice...and today the Marine Corps General in charge of aviation ordered all of it's planes grounded.

That's not a secret...it was on the Fox News website.

That lays bare the empty rhetoric of Trump threatening any rogue state or enemy nation with "fire and fury" right now.
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« Reply #72 on: August 12, 2017, 04:03:46 am »
Nothing has been rebuilt yet...thre's only been lipservice...and today the Marine Corps General in charge of aviation ordered all of it's planes grounded.

That's not quite the crisis some are making it out to be.

“This operational reset will occur within the next two weeks and will be taken at the discretion of commanders, based on their unit's operational commitments, to focus on the fundamentals of safe flight operations, standardization, and combat readiness,” the statement continued.

The USMC said that the 24 hour-period grounding is not unusual.

“Pauses in operations are not uncommon and are viewed as a responsible step to refresh and review best practices and procedures so our units remain capable, safe, and ready,” the USMC said in their statement.

The last time a fleet-wide aviation operational pause occurred was August 2016.
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« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2017, 01:46:34 pm »
That's not quite the crisis some are making it out to be.

“This operational reset will occur within the next two weeks and will be taken at the discretion of commanders, based on their unit's operational commitments, to focus on the fundamentals of safe flight operations, standardization, and combat readiness,” the statement continued.

The USMC said that the 24 hour-period grounding is not unusual.

“Pauses in operations are not uncommon and are viewed as a responsible step to refresh and review best practices and procedures so our units remain capable, safe, and ready,” the USMC said in their statement.

The last time a fleet-wide aviation operational pause occurred was August 2016.

These things keep happening because Marine Corps aviation...like the aviation branches of the other services have been forced to push back mandatory maintenance on aircraft past rational time frames because of lack of money thanks to sequestration. 

They are literally flying aircraft...the ones that can fly....to the point where they fall out of the sky. 

There have been stories posted here about parts having to be cannibalized from display aircraft to keep combat jets flying.

The AF went out to the Bone Yard in Arizona a couple years ago and got a B-52 up and running to maintain flight ops.

It's worse than what some people are making it out to be.
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Re: Trump: 'I'm not going to rule out a military option' in Venezuela
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2017, 02:02:21 pm »
Trump is apparently a war mongering neocon.  :silly: