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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2017, 09:26:51 pm »
If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."

I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?

I was hoping someone told him to use those words..
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2017, 09:29:34 pm »
Thank You VERY Much Harry Truman, for putting everyone into a phony panic.

The Norks are not going to launch on us except through their own incompetence in an accident.

NK is China's proxy. Has been since the end of WWII.

China doesn't want us nuked. It would be economic suicide for them to destroy Any part of us.

They need our nation's money, and they're WINNING by taking MOST of it in return for the lie of 'Cheap Imported Goods'.

Add in the cost of the 3 Nuclear Carrier full Battle Groups we've got parked on Kim's doorstep, the B-1 bombers overflying South Korea, and more, to the 'Cheap' imported iphone you can't seem to live without. Not so cheap anymore, is it?

China's bleeding us dry through bad trade agreements we shouldn't have entered, and wouldn't have, without global corporate money Wanting to appear to be run offshore in order to stay profitable. The fiction of it impairing the big guys is BS. It allows them to monopolize their market by freezing smaller players without the billions of investment capital needed to get into the game, Out of the game.

NK is China rattling its economic sabre through faux nuclear blackmail.

The bad actors we should be dealing with are in Beijing.

But That's off the table until we drastically cut or abolish our domestic corporate income tax.

Get rid of the corporate income tax and impose a 15% import tarriff on everything made in China.

Not just the US, but every member nation of NATO too.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2017, 09:33:02 pm »
"As we grow older, the arm-crossing gesture can evolve to the point where we try to make it even less obvious to others. By folding one or both arms across the chest, a barrier is formed that is an unconscious attempt to block out what we perceive as a threat or undesirable circumstances."

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2017, 09:43:54 pm »
If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."

I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?

He's done that defending his kids. So yeah, good ID on body language.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2017, 09:53:46 pm »
Man you people need to get a grip.  Fake news to scare the sheep.   ****sheep****

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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2017, 09:55:16 pm »
This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.

We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.

Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.

They win without the expense of actual combat.

Here's a superficial primer from wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.

The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War

http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war

http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/



 
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2017, 11:46:46 pm »
Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.

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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2017, 11:49:23 pm »
Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.

Why Guam when Japan will do?

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2017, 11:50:17 pm »
This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.

We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.

Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.

They win without the expense of actual combat.

Here's a superficial primer from wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.

The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War

http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war

http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2017, 11:51:18 pm »
Now, N. Korea is threatening a preemptive strike on Guam.
That came after Trump said "Fire and Fury" to N. Korea.
Since it is all fake news, hurry along, nothing to see here.

They have been issuing threats for a while.  There don't seem to be any good options.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2017, 12:34:04 am »
@XenaLee

That person reporting is not what the Pentagon report said.  The Pentagon knows nutcase has them plus as many as 60 nuke bombs now. Out intel said N. Korea HAS the miniature nukes.  This is the first time that has been reported.

Trump said what he did after he got his today's intel report.

Well.... while I do wish Trump would just STFU (I'm dreaming, I know).... and stop tweet-reacting to every damned thing.... what is he gonna do?  Pre-emptive strike on NK?  Not bloody likely in this political environment.   It's just a lot of yada yada yada at this point.
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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2017, 12:43:43 am »
Well.... while I do wish Trump would just STFU (I'm dreaming, I know).... and stop tweet-reacting to every damned thing.... what is he gonna do?  Pre-emptive strike on NK?  Not bloody likely in this political environment.   It's just a lot of yada yada yada at this point.

Wrong.  Trump is doing exactly what should have been done years ago....Fight Crazy with Crazy. 

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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2017, 12:47:42 am »
Wrong.  Trump is doing exactly what should have been done years ago....Fight Crazy with Crazy.

Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.

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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2017, 01:29:09 am »
Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.

Exactl!  We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where  we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.

I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2017, 01:54:11 am »
Exactl!  We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where  we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.

I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..
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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2017, 01:56:38 am »
Heaven help us...........

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2017, 02:02:28 am »
I'm up for a Smoked Brisket.  You?

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« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2017, 02:03:56 am »
Yeah. Our speaking softly routine has damn near gotten us a nuclear capable North Korea AND Iran.

That's because the big stick was missing and the NK knew it. 

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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2017, 02:22:38 am »
What a load.

So we haven't been able to develop mini nukes but technological giant NK has?

They aren't talking about backpack nukes, but a nuclear bomb small enough and light enough to be equal or less than the payload capabilities of their ICBMs.

For example, their Taepodong-II has a payload capability of less than 500 kg (~1,100 lbs) at maximum range.
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taepodong-2

Mind you, this missile easily has the range to strike anywhere in the US.  And that's been the case since 2012.  So all this panic over their KN-08 variants (which is a shorter range missile) is a joke.  What does make these missiles more worrisome is that they are road-mobile, so they are much harder to find and destroy.

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Of course, building a nuke that is 1,100 pounds isn't the problem. 

Do they and a reentry vehicle to put it in?  Without one, the bomb burns up in reentry.

Do they have a trigger mechanism that will cause the bomb to explode *BEFORE* it hits the ground? Without one, the bomb will fragment into pieces when it goes *smush* against the ground.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2017, 02:39:35 am »
@Quix

Quix, you should worry about N. Korea instead of outer space aliens.

"United States intelligence officials believe North Korea has mini nuclear warheads that can be delivered via its intercontinental ballistic missiles."

The report I saw/read from our Intel agencies, the Pentagon included, said N. Korea, in a few months, will have ICBMs that will reach Washington, D.C., and the east coast.  And, they may have as many as 60 nuke bombs now.

Sanctions will not stop N. Korea from sending nukes to this country and they can do it now, hitting as far east as Illinois, according to our people, not their people.

This info. has come down very fast.  It appears to me our intel groups/Pentagon had to finally tell us the truth about N. Korea as an attack could happen at any time, especially since these new sanctions have come about, enraging the nut case who can send bombs whenever he wants.

I agree sanctions are a hideous, hollow, horrific pretense & a laugh.

I also believe that we MUST have 3-5 DIFFERENT systems that could take out the entire NK leadership either in one flash or in a very surgical strike lasting seconds to minutes--leaving their citizens more or less unscathed.

As I understand it for example  ... we can walk through walls. We can use various kinds of beam technologies to sub-atomically disintegrate objects and/or people from a significant distance--leaving surrounding objects & people unscathed. I'd wager there are other clever exotic technologies that could be brought to bear to remove the entire NK leadership and/or at least their nuke objects and infrastructure.

Though probably the fallen angel overlords of the oligarchy would not allow such advanced tech to be used in this situation in such a way because it doesn't fit the script from hell.

Obviously, though, that script doesn't suit the oligarchy's war-mongering set-up to increase the degree of slavery they subject the global citizens to.

Both are horrific portents and not all that disconnected, imho.

The scenario  appears to be to have WW3 coerce the global populace into accepting the tyranny of the fallen angel critters or face total annihilation of mankind.

And the lemmings will continue to  fall off the cliff.
And the Eloi will continue to shuffle off to the Morlach's caverns for dinner--as the main course.
And most in our era have a hard time with their left hand knowing what their right hand is doing.

And the sheeple will continue to bleat whatever blathering propaganda the oligarchy feeds them.

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I do have, thankfully, a confidence in my spirit that my Dallas trip will be completed before WW3 erupts. Time  will tell.

Certainly the oligarchy is kicking the WW3 ball further down the court week by week.

And the fat air-headed NK stooge appears more suicidally idiotic by the week, as well. Arrogance and power are as greedy as the grave and know no bounds.

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« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2017, 02:41:41 am »
That's because the big stick was missing and the NK knew it. 

True.

Because it is the agenda of the oligarchy to bring the USA down to 3rd world level and literal ashes in order to make their overt establishment of their tyrannical global government easier and quicker.
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« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2017, 02:43:50 am »
Exactl!  We are rapidly approaching a moment of truth both for ourselves as human beings and for the life of our nation. Now, truth is not always a pleasant thing. But it is necessary now to make a choice, to choose between two admittedly regrettable, but nevertheless inevitable outcomes. One where  we kill a couple hundred thousand people now or sit back and wait for them to ruin our pleasant valley sunday B-B-Q in Cali next year.

I think if you look at the options you will see there is only one way to proceed..

Agreed.

However, the inmates have been in charge of  the  assylum for decades. They will not allow reason to alter their  plans significantly at this point.

They will certainly NOT allow charitable, NON-genocidal humanitarianism to alter their depopulation and other schemes.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2017, 02:47:21 am »
This whole 'I've got a nuke 4 u' passion play is asymmetric warfare.

We've been at war with China since Truman backed Mao.

Eating us out from within by bankrupting us, with our own Own manufacturing base which We Exported to them, is China's end game.

They win without the expense of actual combat.

Here's a superficial primer from wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

There's much more to be said than wiki addresses.

The best in depth look is probably still Sun Tzu's Art of War

http://www.gutenberg.us/articles/the_art_of_war

http://www.literatureproject.com/art-of-war/
 

Interesting and worthy points.

However, that is not the script the oligarchy is playing by. They WANT massive global war, massive  genocidal deaths, massive suffering and massive destruction. Their boss revels  in all such as his favorite compulsive recreation.
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« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2017, 02:51:34 am »

I think you make some worthy-to-consider points.

I just strongly believe that your assumptions  are quite flawed re the  oligarchy and its goals.

They are not the most rational of folks though they see themselves at the top of the heap.

The Chinese bragged to me when I lived there that they were seriously prepared to lose 800 MILLION citizens in a war ... and that then THEY would be in a better position to be on top of the heap and control the world. I think they are discounting the oligarchy's reach and script but that is seriously part of the mentality at the top of the Chinese military and leadership. I heard it from a diversity of their own well connected military folks.


Thank You VERY Much Harry Truman, for putting everyone into a phony panic.

The Norks are not going to launch on us except through their own incompetence in an accident.

NK is China's proxy. Has been since the end of WWII.

China doesn't want us nuked. It would be economic suicide for them to destroy Any part of us.

They need our nation's money, and they're WINNING by taking MOST of it in return for the lie of 'Cheap Imported Goods'.

Add in the cost of the 3 Nuclear Carrier full Battle Groups we've got parked on Kim's doorstep, the B-1 bombers overflying South Korea, and more, to the 'Cheap' imported iphone you can't seem to live without. Not so cheap anymore, is it?

China's bleeding us dry through bad trade agreements we shouldn't have entered, and wouldn't have, without global corporate money Wanting to appear to be run offshore in order to stay profitable. The fiction of it impairing the big guys is BS. It allows them to monopolize their market by freezing smaller players without the billions of investment capital needed to get into the game, Out of the game.

NK is China rattling its economic sabre through faux nuclear blackmail.

The bad actors we should be dealing with are in Beijing.

But That's off the table until we drastically cut or abolish our domestic corporate income tax.

Get rid of the corporate income tax and impose a 15% import tarriff on everything made in China.

Not just the US, but every member nation of NATO too.
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Re: WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2017, 02:53:33 am »
If he had, he wouldn't have said, "Fire and fury like the world has never seen."

I think he is scared as he did something I have not seen with him: When he said that, he had his arms folded tightly against his body. Anyone seen him like that?

There does  appear to be  an increased seriousness, soberness, steely-ness about him re this topic, set of contingencies.

I'm  incredibly thankful it is him in the role vs Shrillery. She'd likely have already had us into the smoking embers stage.
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