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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2017, 04:02:07 pm »
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2017, 04:04:53 pm »
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Brennan is a shake-and-bake Muslim who said the Shahada while assigned in Saudi.
I have little doubt that has affected the effectiveness of the Agency, and not in a good way.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2017, 04:05:23 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 04:00:14 pm
It's a pity Sessions recused himself and left the equation, isn't it?

After the speculation about Sessions being fired dies down, he needs to reassert himself. Not only does he need to reign Mueller in, Sessions himself needs to openly expand the Russia collusion with the Democrats and tell Mueller get on it.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2017, 04:09:42 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 04:05:23 pm
After the speculation about Sessions being fired dies down, he needs to reassert himself. Not only does he need to reign Mueller in, Sessions himself needs to openly expand the Russia collusion with the Democrats and tell Mueller get on it.

There's no way Mueller is going to finger his pals in the DNC.  His "investigators" have too much invested.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2017, 04:23:45 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 04:09:42 pm
There's no way Mueller is going to finger his pals in the DNC.  His "investigators" have too much invested.

Agreed.  We should have said that the only parameters he was likely to have been given was: "get Trump".
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2017, 04:30:52 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 04:09:42 pm
There's no way Mueller is going to finger his pals in the DNC.  His "investigators" have too much invested.

And that's the cross Sessions needs to hang Mueller on. Get even-handed, or go home. I guarantee you the investigation will die quickly if the Dems are getting looked into.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2017, 05:00:23 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 04:30:52 pm
And that's the cross Sessions needs to hang Mueller on. Get even-handed, or go home. I guarantee you the investigation will die quickly if the Dems are getting looked into.

Again, Sessions shouldn't have recused himself.  At this point, no matter what he does, it's big trouble for his boss (whom he blindsided with the recusal.  Should have been fired for that).
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2017, 05:11:55 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 04:30:52 pm
And that's the cross Sessions needs to hang Mueller on. Get even-handed, or go home. I guarantee you the investigation will die quickly if the Dems are getting looked into.

Thats all that needs to happen - even if the news media refuses to cover the Democrat angle enough will become apparent so that those undecideds who do not know what the game is here will catch on very quickly.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2017, 05:12:10 pm »
Trump should have seen the recusal coming.  He most likely simply assumed that everyone is as unprincipled as he is. 
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2017, 05:17:31 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 05:00:23 pm
Again, Sessions shouldn't have recused himself.  At this point, no matter what he does, it's big trouble for his boss (whom he blindsided with the recusal.  Should have been fired for that).

It was the right thing to do in general but the wrong thing in this context. He created a crack and the Dems took advantage of it.

That said, after these attacks die down, Sessions has room to say he's and outsider and not in Trump's back pocket, then reassert himself over Mueller and the investigation.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2017, 05:20:47 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 05:17:31 pm
It was the right thing to do in general but the wrong thing in this context. He created a crack and the Dems took advantage of it.

That said, after these attacks die down, Sessions has room to say he's and outsider and not in Trump's back pocket, then reassert himself of Mueller.

That's why the Rats and their allies in the MSM have no intention of letting this "die down."  They'll keep harping on it, even if CNN's viewership drops to zero,
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2017, 05:23:10 pm »
I guess having special counsel's is OK just as long the Dems are the one who is being investigated. All Trump needs to do is shut up about it and let Mueller do his job. If he has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to worry about it. But he is acting like he is hiding something.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2017, 05:23:41 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 05:20:47 pm
That's why the Rats and their allies in the MSM have no intention of letting this "die down."  They'll keep harping on it, even if CNN's viewership drops to zero,


Sorry, I meant to refer to the speculation of Sessions being fired. If he's not, it gives him an opening now that Trump has attacked him.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2017, 05:25:01 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 25, 2017, 05:23:10 pm
I guess having special counsel's is OK just as long the Dems are the one who is being investigated.

Nope, investigate both sides openly, but not open ended. Get to the point. Trust me, the Dems can't weather that type of scrutiny.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2017, 05:26:46 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 05:23:41 pm

Sorry, I meant to refer to the speculation of Sessions being fired. If he's not, it gives him an opening now that Trump has attacked him.

I stand corrected.   :beer:
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2017, 05:27:25 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 05:25:01 pm
Nope, investigate both sides openly, but not open ended. Get to the point. Trust me, the Dems can't weather that type of scrutiny.


The Trump should just shut up about and let Mueller do his job.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2017, 05:34:29 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 25, 2017, 05:27:25 pm

The Trump should just shut up about and let Mueller do his job.

Uh, no he shouldn't. This is an investigation, not an open ended witch hunt. Personal dislike for Trump doesn't negate that Mueller has severely compromised his integrity and credibility in how he's conducted things so far.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2017, 05:47:03 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on July 25, 2017, 05:00:23 pm
Again, Sessions shouldn't have recused himself.  At this point, no matter what he does, it's big trouble for his boss (whom he blindsided with the recusal.  Should have been fired for that).

I totally agree.   And Sessions should have given Trump a heads up about his intent to recuse himself before doing so.  Communication is key and Sessions ain't cutting it.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2017, 05:49:23 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 25, 2017, 05:27:25 pm

The Trump should just shut up about and let Mueller do his job.

He could, and he should, but he won't.
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Re: Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2017, 07:55:51 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 25, 2017, 05:23:10 pm
If he has done nothing wrong, he has nothing to worry about it.


Yikes!
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