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mystery-ak · « **on:** July 25, 2017, 12:57:45 am »

Defend Trump? We Weren’t Elected To Spend ‘All Of Our Time On This,’ Ryan Says

Alex Pfeiffer
White House Correspondent
10:03 AM 07/24/2017

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said Monday that it isn’t congressional Republicans’ role to defend President Trump from the investigations into Russian election interference and pushed back against the notion that special counsel Robert Mueller is biased against the president.

The comments from Ryan came a day after Trump tweeted that “it’s very sad that Republicans…do very little to protect their president.” Trump’s top aide Kellyanne Conway also attacked Mueller Sunday and described his legal team as a “band of Democratic donors.” Mueller has brought seven attorneys onto his legal team that have donated a combined $60,787 to federal Democratic donors, a practice Trump has dubbed “ridiculous.”

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http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/24/ryan-we-werent-elected-to-defend-trump-from-investigations/

Suppressed · « **Reply #1 on:** July 25, 2017, 12:59:54 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on July 25, 2017, 12:57:45 am

Mueller has brought seven attorneys onto his legal team that have donated a combined $60,787 to federal Democratic donors, a practice Trump has dubbed “ridiculous.”

Yes, I agree...donating to donors is definitely "ridiculous".

Victoria33 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 25, 2017, 02:10:14 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on July 25, 2017, 12:57:45 am

Defend Trump? We Weren’t Elected To Spend ‘All Of Our Time On This,’ Ryan Says
Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said Monday that it isn’t congressional Republicans’ role to defend President Trump from the investigations into Russian election interference and pushed back against the notion that special counsel Robert Mueller is biased against the president.

@mystery-ak

I seriously think we are approaching critical mass with Trump. He has isolated himself against all others, and is blowing up relationships with those in congress. Ryan saying what he did, puts a chasm between he and Trump as of the minute he said it and he knew it would. Trump's money has always allowed him to cheat and hurt people and call them derogatory names and get away with it. He thought he could as president because no one has ever stopped him. I think he is headed to destruction in the not distant future.

ConservativeGranny · « **Reply #3 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:12:25 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on July 25, 2017, 12:57:45 am

Mueller has brought seven attorneys onto his legal team that have donated a combined $60,787 to federal Democratic donors, a practice Trump has dubbed “ridiculous.”

more
http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/24/ryan-we-werent-elected-to-defend-trump-from-investigations/

Was it ridiculous when DJT donated money to democrats? To hedge his bets sometimes he donated to both the dem and GOP candidate. As private citizens they have a right to donate to whatever party they wish to. They were supposed to be hired for their skills, not their political beliefs. If I was being investigated for dealing drugs I'd want all of the investigators to be meth heads. Wouldn't anyone?

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #4 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:44:29 am »

Let's be honest. Ryan hasn't done shit since he was elected. He spends his days working out in the gym and then running for reelection.....just like 98% of all those losers.

Emjay · « **Reply #5 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:51:24 am »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 25, 2017, 05:44:29 am

Let's be honest. Ryan hasn't done shit since he was elected. He spends his days working out in the gym and then running for reelection.....just like 98% of all those losers.

In view of Ryan's record of 'service,' I think his remark was offensive. Anyway, it offended me.

It was totally unnecessary and it's not as if Congress critters were working wonders and don't want to be distracted from the wonder working by taking time out to defend Trump.

Emjay · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:55:39 am »

Quote from: Victoria33 on July 25, 2017, 02:10:14 am

@mystery-ak

I seriously think we are approaching critical mass with Trump. He has isolated himself against all others, and is blowing up relationships with those in congress. Ryan saying what he did, puts a chasm between he and Trump as of the minute he said it and he knew it would. Trump's money has always allowed him to cheat and hurt people and call them derogatory names and get away with it. He thought he could as president because no one has ever stopped him. I think he is headed to destruction in the not distant future.

Well, Trump never had a relationship with congress. They hated him from the start. He's made some efforts to reach out to them but to not much avail.

Trump's tweet whining for support was pathetic but Ryan's answer was worse. Ryan trying to give the impression that congress is very busy doing stuff and can't possibly take time out to support Trump is laughable.

Applewood · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2017, 11:26:31 am »

I don't see where it's Republicans' job to "defend" Trump. Besides, it seems to me he has done little to work with the Republicans in both houses of congress. This Obamacare "repeal" mess is proof of that. But he is quick to belittle and even threaten many in his own party. With a relationship like that, I don't see how Republicans in both chambers would feel inclined to support the president.

Victoria33 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 25, 2017, 01:29:20 pm »

Quote from: Applewood on July 25, 2017, 11:26:31 am

I don't see where it's Republicans' job to "defend" Trump. Besides, it seems to me he has done little to work with the Republicans in both houses of congress. This Obamacare "repeal" mess is proof of that. But he is quick to belittle and even threaten many in his own party. With a relationship like that, I don't see how Republicans in both chambers would feel inclined to support the president.

@Applewood

You are correct. He will call you every derogatory word he has in his limited vocabulary, then want you to kiss his ring, do what he says. He owned his company and he could do that. His problem is, he thinks as president he owns the USA, every person in government. He hasn't figured out he is a "renter" and his lease is up in four years.

Sanguine · « **Reply #9 on:** July 25, 2017, 01:59:04 pm »

Quote from: Victoria33 on July 25, 2017, 02:10:14 am

@mystery-ak

I seriously think we are approaching critical mass with Trump. He has isolated himself against all others, and is blowing up relationships with those in congress. Ryan saying what he did, puts a chasm between he and Trump as of the minute he said it and he knew it would. Trump's money has always allowed him to cheat and hurt people and call them derogatory names and get away with it. He thought he could as president because no one has ever stopped him. I think he is headed to destruction in the not distant future.

I hope that we are approaching critical mass with Ryan too.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #10 on:** July 25, 2017, 02:50:10 pm »

Let's remember what Ryan is ...

ConservativeGranny · « **Reply #11 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:31:42 pm »

Heck. I'm from WI and know what Ryan really is and dislike him a great deal but in this case I happen to agree with him. I don't understand why the focus always becomes the person and not the content of what was said. It sometimes seems like people are trying to deflect and discredit the information by discrediting the person. You can miss some good points by automatically dismissing information because it's coming from someone you don't like.

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #12 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:41:08 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 25, 2017, 05:44:29 am

Let's be honest. Ryan hasn't done shit since he was elected. He spends his days working out in the gym and then running for reelection.....just like 98% of all those losers.

No kidding. If he doesn't want to bothered defending Trump, at least get off his lazy hind end and start passing the reform legislation that is way overdue. If you want to hide behind separation of powers, then start stepping up and leading your branch of govt.

driftdiver · « **Reply #13 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:47:45 pm »

Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 25, 2017, 04:41:08 pm

No kidding. If he doesn't want to bothered defending Trump, at least get off his lazy hind end and start passing the reform legislation that is way overdue. If you want to hide behind separation of powers, then start stepping up and leading your branch of govt.

They are waiting for their puppet masters to give them direction.

They probably just want to tread water until they can hand the house back the demonrats and then they can push through the agenda and let people think its the demonrats idea.

Oceander · « **Reply #14 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:49:25 pm »

And the hour of "President Pence" draws a few minutes closer.

ABX · « **Reply #15 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:53:23 pm »

President Donald Trump is their boss, their CEO, and it is their #1 job to defend and support him. He should start firing anyone in Congress disloyal to him and who doesn't fully support him. He is the boss after all.

_{If you can't tell, that was very sarcastic but a reflection of what many believe.}

skeeter · « **Reply #16 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:55:41 pm »

Then how about supporting his agenda, which warts & all is what people voted for?

I know, that question answers itself.

libertybele · « **Reply #17 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:55:58 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on July 25, 2017, 05:44:29 am

Let's be honest. Ryan hasn't done shit since he was elected. He spends his days working out in the gym and then running for reelection.....just like 98% of all those losers.

You're forgetting that he sent a half-baked healthcare plan to the Senate. The majority in the House and Senate would like nothing better than to see Trump fail. They want Pence or perhaps Ryan. It's in Ryan's best interest to sit on his behind as usual and wait for the presidency to trickle down to him. :nometalk:

Cripplecreek · « **Reply #18 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:58:13 pm »

I want my congressman to represent me. Screw Trump.

Most GOP congressmen won their races by far larger margins of victory than Trump won their states.

XenaLee · « **Reply #19 on:** July 25, 2017, 04:59:45 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on July 25, 2017, 04:53:23 pm

President Donald Trump is their boss, their CEO, and it is their #1 job to defend and support him. He should start firing anyone in Congress disloyal to him and who doesn't fully support him. He is the boss after all.

So....are you another one hoping for "critical mass" meltdown of the Trump administration? (See comments below)

I, on the other hand, am hoping for what is best for America as a free nation. And somehow... I just don't think that's it.

_{If you can't tell, that was very sarcastic but a reflection of what many believe.}

(revert edit error- Abaraxas)

Oceander · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:01:31 pm »

Quote from: skeeter on July 25, 2017, 04:55:41 pm

Then how about supporting his agenda, which warts & all is what people voted for?

I know, that question answers itself.

Because the president's agenda is not ipso facto the agenda all Congressional republicans are required to follow. That is one of the essential differences between the US system and the parliamentary systems many other countries have. The Founders, btw, intended that result. Congress is an independent coordinate body with its own agenda (agendas, actually, because each Member was elected to represent a certain specific group of people, not the nation at large), and the president must therefore persuade Congress to follow his agenda, particularly if it conflicts with their own agenda(s). Trump is proving beyond any doubt that he is incapable of performing this most important task of being president.

dfwgator · « **Reply #21 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:03:38 pm »

Ryan had to know from Day One the Democrats were going to come after Trump with everything they had.

XenaLee · « **Reply #22 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:03:59 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on July 25, 2017, 04:55:58 pm

You're forgetting that he sent a half-baked healthcare plan to the Senate. The majority in the House and Senate would like nothing better than to see Trump fail. They want Pence or perhaps Ryan. It's in Ryan's best interest to sit on his behind as usual and wait for the presidency to trickle down to him. :nometalk:

Right. Cause winning by default is still a win to the RINOs and ergo, to the Democrats.

Cripplecreek · « **Reply #23 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:04:26 pm »

Quote from: AbaraXas on July 25, 2017, 04:53:23 pm

President Donald Trump is their boss, their CEO, and it is their #1 job to defend and support him. He should start firing anyone in Congress disloyal to him and who doesn't fully support him. He is the boss after all.

_{If you can't tell, that was very sarcastic but a reflection of what many believe.}

I'm reminded of the scene in the film "Enemy at the Gates" where one Soviet asks a failed Soviet officer "Would you like to inform the boss (Stalin) or shall I?" before sliding a pistol across the table for him to kill himself.

goatprairie · « **Reply #24 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:04:44 pm »

Quote from: Oceander on July 25, 2017, 04:49:25 pm

And the hour of "President Pence" draws a few minutes closer.

I don't know if that will happen, but if it did happen, the result of having a competent, conservative president who knew how NOT!! to alienate people in his own party and could focus on a conservative agenda would probably totally discombobulate liberals.
It's obvious with Trump bouncing around the issues like a pinball only taking time out to blast people in his own party not much in the way of conservative agenda will get done. Trump said as much himself when he stated before he was inaugurated that conservatism would have to be put on hold until he fixed everything.
So much for fixing everything. Trump is simply out of his depth.
If Trump is forced out, virtually all the Trumpists will follow him. Here's looking at President Sanders or Harris in 2020.
But if Trump decides that he's bored with the job and simply resigns, good things can happen.
However, I don't expect either scenario to occur. I think Trump's ego will have him pinball on, bouncing from crisis to crisis until his four years are up.