Angela Merkel offers defense of Ivanka Trump for sitting in for her father at G-20 summit

[Emjay]

You've accused me of being passive-aggressive before so I guess you meant that for me.

It's so easy to slap a psychiatric insult on someone that you don't have to prove. 

Just because I don't post an insult directly to you doesn't mean I don't want to.

It just means I'm trying not to do personal insults.

You should try that.

@Catherine of Aragon..... A little passive aggressive of you posting that book, wasn't it?

Why didn't you just come out and diss me like you wanted to.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Here's today's topic boys and girls..... discuss: 

[Silver Pines]

@Emjay

I'm going to say this to you, and then I'm done.  Trust me when I say that respect for the forum, and not you, is the only reason I don't lay out my opinion of you.  Plus your passive-aggressive (there it is!) sniping, grousing, and crabbing usually don't merit a response, but I'm feeling expansive today.  Also, monthly hormones are leaving me with a zero tolerance for crap right now.

Don't  yap to me about you "trying not to do personal insults."  Hell, you live for them.  Who are you kidding?  And that's fine, but you lack the guts to own it.  You like your little drive-bys while you put on the demure dowager act.  Then when you get called on your crap, you're all "Oh my, was I bad?", "Gee, I was just trying to be funny", etc.  Or, if someone happens to really hit a nerve, you cry and play the victim like you did last night, and are still doing today.  You get a big kick out of dishing it out in your coy little way, but you reeeaaally can't take it.  When you get it thrown back at you, it festers, doesn't it?

If you don't like being pegged as passive-aggressive, stop acting that way.  Or not.  Regardless, you might as well go play your games with someone else.

If the mods want to slap my hand for that, fair enough---I'll take my lumps.  It was worth it to kick off an ankle-biter.

[Emjay]

@Emjay

I'm going to say this to you, and then I'm done.  Trust me when I say that respect for the forum, and not you, is the only reason I don't lay out my opinion of you.  Plus your passive-aggressive (there it is!) sniping, grousing, and crabbing usually don't merit a response, but I'm feeling expansive today.  Also, monthly hormones are leaving me with a zero tolerance for crap right now.

Don't  yap to me about you "trying not to do personal insults."  Hell, you live for them.  Who are you kidding?  And that's fine, but you lack the guts to own it.  You like your little drive-bys while you put on the demure dowager act.  Then when you get called on your crap, you're all "Oh my, was I bad?", "Gee, I was just trying to be funny", etc.  Or, if someone happens to really hit a nerve, you cry and play the victim like you did last night, and are still doing today.  You get a big kick out of dishing it out in your coy little way, but you reeeaaally can't take it.  When you get it thrown back at you, it festers, doesn't it?

If you don't like being pegged as passive-aggressive, stop acting that way.  Or not.  Regardless, you might as well go play your games with someone else.

If the mods want to slap my hand for that, fair enough---I'll take my lumps.  It was worth it to kick off an ankle-biter.

Now you're talking.  Instead of doing your usual psycho-babble, you're telling it like it is.  I always knew you disliked me.  You said once you had me on ignore which was a total lie ... you read everything I write.

So, I hope you enjoyed laying out your true opinion for once.  I don't think your insults merit Mod interference.  But ... ankle-biter.  Maybe a little further up.  LOL

[Silver Pines]

@Emjay

I enjoyed it a lot.  But get it straight---I've never said I had you on ignore.  I don't use that feature.

Whine on.

[Emjay]

Try this.

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[Chosen Daughter]

And there always is a next............

[Emjay]

And there always is a next............

Right!  I can't speak for Catherine but I got a little carried away with the little prissin' match and now I feel guilty.

It doesn't matter who started it, I didn't have to continue it.  Mea Culpa.

[SunkenCiv]

Journalists who weren't alarmed in the least when Clinton announced his 'two for one' presidency.

It was probably their idea in the first place.

[Rivergirl]

How I see it.......
Whatever daddy wants, Ivanka does.
They have been brought up to toe the line........or else.

[jpsb]

Then they are deranged lunatics consumed by demons.

Apparently so.  So much hate is hard to believe.

[jpsb]

@driftdiver

Yes, because this is the first time Ivanka has pushed herself in where she has no business going.

As a senior adviser to the president she can go anywhere she wants as long as the president does not object. Also she did not "sit in on the meeting", she briefly took his chair while he stepped out for a minute or two. BFD.

[jpsb]

I imagine if this were Obama at the G-20 during his reign, and his daughter Sasha sat in for him among world leaders while Obama pushed an initiative she was heading (right after Sasha writes an Op-Ed declaring the virtues of paid family leave for both dads and moms), while her dad pledges 50 million in taxpayer dollars to 'jump-start' this initiative so as to entice other world leaders to get their taxpayers to also fund it - we would rightfully be pissed off and making the same exact comments some of us Conservatives are making in this case.

But apparently it's okay when OUR political messiah does it.

Get real, Sasha Obama was 9 years old when Obama was elected, 17 when he left office.  As with most of your analogies you are completely wrong.

Ivanka Trump is 35 years old, an accomplished business woman on her own and has been advising Trump for many years. That she continues to do so, as a senior adviser to the President, should not surprise anyone.

[jpsb]

Hey, relax ... I am not equating the two at all.  I just happened to remember how ticked off people got at that and it was really nothing.

I don't like Ivanka and I don't like Jared.  So ... let me up.

Nobody got "ticked off" about it we all thought how typical of that buffoon Jimmy to consult with a 12 year old girl on nuclear weapons.

[Silver Pines]

Apparently so.  So much hate is hard to believe.

@jpsb

It really is, isn't it?

You have to have a deep-seated hate to label fellow conservatives who criticize your political idol
devils and demons.

[Silver Pines]

As a senior adviser to the president she can go anywhere she wants as long as the president does not object. Also she did not "sit in on the meeting", she briefly took his chair while he stepped out for a minute or two. BFD.

@jpsb

Wow, some of the most solid Trump fans freely admit they don't like his political nepotism.  That's an extreme position.

[jpsb]

@jpsb

Wow, some of the most solid Trump fans freely admit they don't like his political nepotism.  That's an extreme position.

Whatever, Bing about her sitting in the presidents' chair for a few minutes seem quite petty to me.

[jpsb]

@jpsb

It really is, isn't it?

You have to have a deep-seated hate to label fellow conservatives who criticize your political idol
devils and demons.

I would like to see most of President Trumps' agenda implemented. I dislike those that oppose President Trump and are preventing him from implementing his agenda. You want to go after Trump on issues? Fine, let's debate the merits of his policies and stop with all the petty crap.

Immigration, tax reform, trade reform, ACA repelled, restoration of our military. DRAIN THE SWAMP!

Constant attacks on Trump are preventing him from doing the above. I would like to see the above get done. Hence my dislike of hard core NeverTrumpers (note the "hard core").

[Silver Pines]

Whatever, Bing about her sitting in the presidents' chair for a few minutes seem quite petty to me.

@jpsb

But it isn't just that, now is it.  And you're well aware.

[Suppressed]

Fine, let's debate the merits of his policies and stop with all the petty crap.

@jpsb

Corruption, such as using taxpayer dollars to give access and to support his daughter's project, is not "petty crap".

Immigration, tax reform, trade reform, ACA repelled, restoration of our military. DRAIN THE SWAMP!

Constant attacks on Trump are preventing him from doing the above. I would like to see the above get done. Hence my dislike of hard core NeverTrumpers (note the "hard core").

Since Donald Trump's actions -- far more than any "NeverTrumpers" -- are "preventing him from doing the above," so if you are logical, you will dislike Trump even more.

Are you logical?

[jpsb]

@jpsb

Corruption, such as using taxpayer dollars to give access and to support his daughter's project, is not "petty crap".

Since Donald Trump's actions -- far more than any "NeverTrumpers" -- are "preventing him from doing the above," so if you are logical, you will dislike Trump even more.

Are you logical?

I hope you enjoy the Marxist/Islamic America you are helping to create.

Ivanka Trump is an accomplished business woman worth tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars. She is exactly the kind of person (smart, honest, intelligent, not a career politician) we should want in government. It is a shame that people like you are why people like Ivanka will not serve in government. Once not to long ago, good people would serve, now not so much, it's just not worth all the petty, mean spirited attacks on ones' character to serve.

[LMAO]

I imagine if this were Obama at the G-20 during his reign, and his daughter Sasha sat in for him among world leaders while Obama pushed an initiative she was heading (right after Sasha writes an Op-Ed declaring the virtues of paid family leave for both dads and moms), while her dad pledges 50 million in taxpayer dollars to 'jump-start' this initiative so as to entice other world leaders to get their taxpayers to also fund it - we would rightfully be pissed off and making the same exact comments some of us Conservatives are making in this case.

But apparently it's okay when OUR political messiah does it.

@INVAR

 

90% of the outrage you see in politics is more based on partisanship than principle.

That's why I chose the tagline I did

[Smokin Joe]

I hope you enjoy the Marxist/Islamic America you are helping to create.

Let's get something straight. You sit in the middle. We're the Conservative America. You settled. You got all pragmatic on America, the Constitution, on Liberty itself, and settled. You are the ones who shifted Left. We didn't. Whether you are just cowards who can't stand up for what they believe in or whether you just don't  believe in America, with the Federal Government constrained by the Constitution, I don't pretend to know, but daily you prove by your attacks on Conservatives you are either  liberals or pissant pant wetters who don't  have the guts to stand your ground against the pajamaboys and bleep and even Muslims on the Communist left.  Instead you frustrated, impotent dirtbags feel like you just  have to attack SOMEone because your boy ain't getting the  job done, so you go menstrual on us.
I have no use for any of you.

[INVAR]

@INVAR

 

90% of the outrage you see in politics is more based on partisanship than principle.

That's why I chose the tagline I did

@LMAO Yes, absolutely correct.  It's Party over principles.  Pragmatism over character.

The only principle they have is "winning", which appears limited to a single SCOTUS seat and the fact Hildabeast is not there.  Conservatism as an agenda is not one to be fought for.

Instead Liberalism is the agenda to make excuses for.

We have been told repeatedly by those who flaunt Trump at every opportunity that people who adhere to principles are LOSERS.

Just this past week I have been awarded a Principles Pedestal and a Drama Queen award by the Academy of Fools here who ridicule anyone enumerating, reminding and extolling foundational principles that they apparently hate and disdain as much as the Left does.  They hate being reminded of them.  They hate seeing them mentioned and they go absolutely apeshit berserk when applying those foundational principles as a measuring stick against the myriad consequences of Trump not having any such core himself.