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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2017, 09:33:23 pm »
The real problem is that this story comes up amid a growing number of known Trump supporters openly stating that they no longer care about ideology, ethics or morality as long as they can stick it to the opposition.

They adopted Alinsky tactics and now Alinsky owns them. They couldn't stop if they tried.

We must see the metric, of your "growing number," for it sounds no different than a made-up-story of fake news.

If you tire of your hospital gig, keep modern fake news journalism in mind.

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2017, 09:37:58 pm »
I have no doubt that most Trump voters wanted, and want, the best for their country.  That's not the problem.   The problem is they let themselves get conned by a gold-plated grifter.

True we all should have voted for Hillary /s

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2017, 09:49:02 pm »
True we all should have voted for Hillary /s

That can be construed to mean you willingly voted for a con man because he was the lesser of two evils.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2017, 09:51:02 pm »
Some nut job threatens Cruz, lets all bash President Trump. Way to go GOPBR. /s

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2017, 09:54:18 pm »
Read this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/donald-trump-rally-violence-237302

Trump's own supporters are claiming Trump's words were the orders for their violence.

It's the same as the rally, I don't recall what city, where he's talking about his security warning him that there could be people with tomatoes in the audience and he tells his supporters if they see anyone with tomatoes to "knock the hell out of them", and not to worry he'll cover their legal costs.

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2017, 09:56:37 pm »
That can be construed to mean you willingly voted for a con man because he was the lesser of two evils.

Oh, please.  The lesser of two evils is just that.  The lesser of two evils.  There was no third choice.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2017, 09:59:17 pm »
Oh, please.  The lesser of two evils is just that.  The lesser of two evils.  There was no third choice.

Then you voted for Hillary?

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2017, 10:01:13 pm »
Some nut job threatens Cruz, lets all bash President Trump. Way to go GOPBR. /s

First, it's TBR, and secondly, did anyone tell an untruth? 

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2017, 10:03:43 pm »
Then you voted for Hillary?

So ... at this point in time after all that has happened, you actually think that Hillary is less evil than Trump.

I cannot join you in that opinion but I guess you're entitled to it.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2017, 10:08:16 pm »
Some nut job threatens Cruz, lets all bash President Trump. Way to go GOPBR. /s

Entirely predictable, and routine.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2017, 10:09:53 pm »
So ... at this point in time after all that has happened, you actually think that Hillary is less evil than Trump.

I cannot join you in that opinion but I guess you're entitled to it.

No, you previously said you did not vote for Trump, then you said there was no third choice between him and Hillary, so I was asking if you had indeed voted for her?

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2017, 10:10:01 pm »
That can be construed to mean you willingly voted for a con man because he was the lesser of two evils.

In my own case, I don't generally like politicians much for examples of exemplary living.

I just want results. I leave the moralizing to others.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2017, 10:25:52 pm »
In my own case, I don't generally like politicians much for examples of exemplary living.

Fantastic.  In my own case, I don't generally like politicians much for examples of unpredictable duplicity.  Trump has been all over the map with his positions.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2017, 10:28:02 pm »
Part of the "Cult 45" crowd.
Nice turn of phrase! I may borrow it some time. (I'll put it back when I'm done, honest!)
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2017, 10:32:21 pm »
Oh, please.  The lesser of two evils is just that.  The lesser of two evils.  There was no third choice.

Precisely how we'll rationalize ourselves into oblivion.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2017, 10:33:26 pm »
Underneath it all, people seem to be ignoring the whole show at the Convention where Trump butted in at the end of Cruz's speech, the seating arrangements were changed to get people up front to Boo Cruz, a crowd whipped to hostility to the point where security had to escort Heidi Cruz out, and still somehow don't think this sort of enmity was ever fostered by Trump's actions?

Smoke it if you got it, I guess. Move to Denver. 

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2017, 10:40:31 pm »
Fantastic.  In my own case, I don't generally like politicians much for examples of unpredictable duplicity.  Trump has been all over the map with his positions.

I am content he has given better results than Hillary, the ONLY other viable option.

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2017, 10:42:46 pm »
I am content he has given better results than Hillary, the ONLY other viable option.
That's a pretty low bar. I'd like to see him make good on more of the campaign promises.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233460.0.html

...and get the appointments done.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2017, 10:49:31 pm »
No, you previously said you did not vote for Trump, then you said there was no third choice between him and Hillary, so I was asking if you had indeed voted for her?

No, I was relatively new on Maui and had not registered.  The only time Hawaii went for a Republican was for Reagan's second term.  So, I did not vote.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2017, 10:51:13 pm »
That's a pretty low bar. I'd like to see him make good on more of the campaign promises.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,233460.0.html

...and get the appointments done.

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It doesn't surprise me at all you can no longer find his campaign positions available at the original source.  This particular one was where he swore he'd call out China on currency manipulation.  There were many others on which he's done a 180.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #45 on: July 20, 2017, 10:59:47 pm »
I am content he has given better results than Hillary, the ONLY other viable option.

Just another statistic in the written truth that man will suffer evils while evils are sufferable rather than abolish the forms to which they are grown accustomed.

I continue to be amazed at the comfort level with it that engenders all out warfare against actual Conservatives who who take issue with liberalism promoted by Republicans.

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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2017, 11:40:39 pm »
\Just another statistic in the written truth that man will suffer evils while evils are sufferable rather than abolish the forms to which they are grown accustomed.

Interestingly enough, a sentiment conveyed by a Democrat - Daniel Patrick Moynihan - in his essay Defining Deviancy Down.  Hard to believe he was replaced with Hillary Clinton.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #47 on: July 20, 2017, 11:49:11 pm »
I am content he has given better results than Hillary, the ONLY other viable option.

You consider Hillary a viable option?!
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #48 on: July 20, 2017, 11:51:18 pm »
I continue to be amazed at the comfort level with it that engenders all out warfare against actual Conservatives who who take issue with liberalism promoted by Republicans.
Not so much "comfort level" as the realistic acknowledgment that the election is over, Trump won and there's nothing we or anyone else can do to change that result.  I thought it only was Democrats who refused to say Trump wasn't their president. Like it or not, he is the president of this nation.

Not the one most of us preferred, I suspect, but here we are. We aren't anywhere else. Let's stop whining about it and do what we can to get conservatives elected to the Congress in 2018.
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Re: Trump supporter threatened Cruz
« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2017, 12:09:14 am »
Not so much "comfort level" as the realistic acknowledgment that the election is over, Trump won and there's nothing we or anyone else can do to change that result.  I thought it only was Democrats who refused to say Trump wasn't their president. Like it or not, he is the president of this nation.

Not the one most of us preferred, I suspect, but here we are. We aren't anywhere else. Let's stop whining about it and do what we can to get conservatives elected to the Congress in 2018.

Well said, @mountaineer!