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Re: Seattle Councilman: 'Cleaning Poop Off Sidewalks Is Racist'
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2017, 06:18:24 pm »
If you read Gossett's bio it begins to make sense.

Who decided this moron's inane thoughts were worthy of a story?

And why are we discussing it as though it made any sense at all?
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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2017, 06:22:53 pm »
Who decided this moron's inane thoughts were worthy of a story?

And why are we discussing it as though it made any sense at all?

Now, in all fairness, @Emjay, no one here has suggested that it makes sense.  But, you do raise a good question as to why it's being reported on at all.

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2017, 06:40:40 pm »
Well, either they can be thankful they fell on the clean part to have their snowflake fit, or they aren't going to smell so good.

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2017, 06:42:42 pm »
Now, in all fairness, @Emjay, no one here has suggested that it makes sense.  But, you do raise a good question as to why it's being reported on at all.

Well, If he is running for reelection ..

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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2017, 06:42:57 pm »
And the sublime irony is.... Seattle is a liberal-run city.  You know...  the very same liberal types that proclaim that they alone care about 'the environment'.  The health issue alone should, in a sane, normal and common sense world (IOW, not in a liberal's world).... make law enforcement crack down on anyone using city streets as their personal toilet.

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Yeah, that's a good point.  You could probably short-circuit some brains by asking them to address that contradiction.

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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2017, 09:37:52 pm »
And the sublime irony is.... Seattle is a liberal-run city.  You know...  the very same liberal types that proclaim that they alone care about 'the environment'.  The health issue alone should, in a sane, normal and common sense world (IOW, not in a liberal's world).... make law enforcement crack down on anyone using city streets as their personal toilet.
Typical liberal hypocrites.

All those "Water Protectors" that showed up at Standing Rock left 750 semi loads of trash and debris behind, a (human) corpse in the river, and 8 abandoned dogs/puppies, not to mention the mutilated and killed livestock and other damage to the area (private, State, and Federal property).

Real environmentalists and animal lovers, that bunch.
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« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2017, 12:36:03 am »
C'mon, y'all. Surely you can understand. This is just like that time when Jews stood against allowing contractors to bring gas lines into neighborhoods for stoves, heating units and fireplaces. Y'all remember that, right? < /sarc >

This may p.o. some folks, but I'm going to say it anyway. I've never seen a segment of people who wanted to cling to grievances like blacks. I feel sorry for the blacks who want to move on.


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« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2017, 12:47:44 am »
C'mon, y'all. Surely you can understand. This is just like that time when Jews stood against allowing contractors to bring gas lines into neighborhoods for stoves, heating units and fireplaces. Y'all remember that, right? < /sarc >

This may p.o. some folks, but I'm going to say it anyway. I've never seen a segment of people who wanted to cling to grievances like blacks. I feel sorry for the blacks who want to move on.

And just American blacks. Not Caribbean blacks, Africans, or most other blacks from other parts of the world. It really looks stupid now with all this immigration we've seen the last 25 years or so that's changed the country from black and white and a smidge of other minorities to a full on melting pot.

American blacks having been here so long should be one of the mature big brothers by now, yet they still act like toddlers.
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« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2017, 01:29:08 am »
Emjay writes:
"Who decided this moron's inane thoughts were worthy of a story?"

A more pertinent question:
Who decided this moron should become a city councilman?

He is the symptom -- NOT "the problem" here.

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« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2017, 01:31:05 am »
Free Vulcan wrote:
"And just American blacks..."

No.
That's a convenient way to try to cover up a problem.

What about -Somalian- blacks?
How well are they integrating into American culture?

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« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2017, 04:14:39 am »
Free Vulcan wrote:
"And just American blacks..."

No.
That's a convenient way to try to cover up a problem.

What about -Somalian- blacks?
How well are they integrating into American culture?

They are probably the one exception, unfortunately. Fortunately, they are the only ones in Africa that seem culture wide to not want to be civilized.
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« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2017, 07:59:02 am »
Free Vulcan wrote:
"And just American blacks..."

No.
That's a convenient way to try to cover up a problem.

What about -Somalian- blacks?
How well are they integrating into American culture?

My BIL is a Caribbean, born and raised, and black as the ace of spades.
And he was dirt-floor poor growing up in Costa Rica.
To this day, he won't go to camp... Reminds him of his destitute childhood.
But given modest opportunity in America, and American know how, and with American business contacts, he has pulled himself up, and is an international land and real estate developer.

Your statement, or at least your inference is incorrect.

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Re: Seattle Councilman: 'Cleaning Poop Off Sidewalks Is Racist'
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2017, 01:35:28 pm »
And just American blacks. Not Caribbean blacks, Africans, or most other blacks from other parts of the world. It really looks stupid now with all this immigration we've seen the last 25 years or so that's changed the country from black and white and a smidge of other minorities to a full on melting pot.

American blacks having been here so long should be one of the mature big brothers by now, yet they still act like toddlers.

Young Nigerian engineer I work with has nothing but contempt for most American blacks.

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« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2017, 08:22:52 pm »
Young Nigerian engineer I work with has nothing but contempt for most American blacks.
I spent some time talking with a Caribbean Black many years ago who said there is a pecking order. Educated Africans look down their noses at educated Caribbean blacks who look way down theirs at American Blacks, almost like a caste system. I'm not sure how much that has mellowed since then (late '70s), but the West Africans I have encountered in the oil industry don't think much of American (media pushed) black culture.
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« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2017, 09:47:47 pm »
I spent some time talking with a Caribbean Black many years ago who said there is a pecking order. Educated Africans look down their noses at educated Caribbean blacks who look way down theirs at American Blacks, almost like a caste system. I'm not sure how much that has mellowed since then (late '70s), but the West Africans I have encountered in the oil industry don't think much of American (media pushed) black culture.

Kinda like the educated gentry from the city look down theire noses at educated rednecks?

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Them that can do, DO, because they do actually know.
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and them that won't, suck, and complain about it.

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« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2017, 11:06:59 pm »
Kinda like the educated gentry from the city look down theire noses at educated rednecks?

It's all the same everywhere. The book learned think they know and don't.
Them that can do, DO, because they do actually know.
Them that can't, languish, whether they know or not,
and them that won't, suck, and complain about it.
Maybe, but I think it runs deeper.

I think the ones who came here are seen as those who were captured in battle or defeated slaves or traded out as undesirables and sold off to the Arabs.
Those descended from freemen were a bit different, but get lost in the herd from afar.
The sooner they got off the boat, the better the perception (first pick, and all that), which is why the Caribbean folks (aside from being closer to 'home') are in the middle. The conquerors, the 'best' were the ones doing the trading, whether they got that title through combat, speed, or subterfuge, they weren't captured or sold (We'll leave the colonial era there out, but that's where they got the education, and perhaps some of the attitude). It is no accident many of those who come here with an education or to get one are related to some highly placed figure in their home government, and they are expected to work hard and earn their spot. (Unlike many of the Arabic exchange students I met in college who were here to enjoy the sins they could not at home, and who let their grades slide, in most cases, to a greater degree. Endowments fix all sorts of problems.) Most of the African Africans I met were from Nigeria, Liberia, Guinea, or Sierra Leone and were raised Methodist (church outreach schools), so there is that influence as well. 
Gentry from the city looking down on 'uneducated' rednecks only reflects back on people who only have credentials relevant in a wholly artificial social construct. They don't even have the skills to recognize skills. All they have is their sense of gentrification, reinforced by others in the same boat, so they dance in a circle and pat each other on the back with every step. It's all they have.
I find it all as amusing as being looked at as "oilfield trash" when I first got here by 4th generation folks, despite my own colonial roots elsewhere.
It's why I rarely play pedigree games. I am who I am, and if what my ancestors did or how long they have been around makes a huge difference to someone, I likely wouldn't much enjoy their company anyway. Personally, I only see it as adding perspective, perhaps a little deeper knowledge of history, and a legacy to live up to, not so much as bragging rights.
Hopefully, someday, my descendants can look back on my life and have the sort of reaction I have to some of my temporally distant relatives. My parents will be a hard act to follow in that regard, but all of us kids have gone places and done things of our own accord, and we just try to instill that in our own kids, too.
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Re: Seattle Councilman: 'Cleaning Poop Off Sidewalks Is Racist'
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2017, 11:25:04 pm »
Clearly one should avoid Seattle at all costs.  If you have to change planes there, stay in the airport.
The wife and I had a stop in the Seattle airport on a trip to Hawaii last year.  Apparently, to work for the airport a person should be a Muslim or black, because they were the only types we saw working in the airport.

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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2017, 01:29:45 am »
Maybe, but I think it runs deeper.

...

And, that could explain why Europe is the way it is - rampant emigration and two world wars that decimated the populations of young men and what's left seems to be unable to withstand the hordes of violent and antagonistic invaders currently overtaking Europe.

And, why East Coasters are namby-pambys compared to their western countrymen.  The ones that could, went west.

Broad generalizations, but they might have some merit.
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2017, 01:36:22 am »
And, that could explain why Europe is the way it is - rampant emigration and two world wars that decimated the populations of young men and what's left seems to be unable to withstand the hordes of violent and antagonistic invaders currently overtaking Europe.

And, why East Coasters are namby-pambys compared to their western countrymen.  The ones that could, went west.

Broad generalizations, but they might have some merit.
I think why this is the nation (so far) most resistant to socialism wielded from afar. We were the last batch of cussedly independent people on the planet. We're getting thinned by folks who are more complacent and distracted by city life, and who are threatened by individualism and fear it, so they are doing their damnedest to control it.
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2017, 01:53:46 am »
And, that could explain why Europe is the way it is - rampant emigration and two world wars that decimated the populations of young men and what's left seems to be unable to withstand the hordes of violent and antagonistic invaders currently overtaking Europe.

And, why East Coasters are namby-pambys compared to their western countrymen.  The ones that could, went west.

Broad generalizations, but they might have some merit.

A while back, in nearly the same moment, two declarations were made before men:
One was the French Rights of Man, and the other was the Declaration of Independence of the United States of America.

One was rights 'given' by men to men.
The other proclaimed self-evident rights endowed by man's Creator.

One is resolved in the courts of men, and the other appeals to a higher court than men can devise.

In truth, that has been the argument ever since.