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It is funny how the 'alt-right' was always proud to call themselves that just up to the point it was used against them, then many claim it was a 'left' derived term.

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It is funny how the 'alt-right' was always proud to call themselves that just up to the point it was used against them, then many claim it was a 'left' derived term.

Do you deny that now.... present day.... it is mostly used by the left to describe them... or anyone on the right that the left disagrees with politically?
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Do you deny that now.... present day.... it is mostly used by the left to describe them... or anyone on the right that the left disagrees with politically?

I would say it is about 50/50. Your 4Channer types are still wearing the title with pride, including it on their social media, memes, etc. It is their way of distinguishing themselves from traditional Conservatives. They seem to give no cares how the media uses it.

The only ones I really see concerned about being associated with the term 'alt-right' or who is using it against 'them' are traditional Conservatives who don't want to be associated with their types. However, the 'Alt-Right' monkier was never meant to be for Conservatives, it was to distinguish themselves from it.
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I would say it is about 50/50. Your 4Channer types are still wearing the title with pride, including it on their social media, memes, etc. It is their way of distinguishing themselves from traditional Conservatives. They seem to give no cares how the media uses it.

The only ones I really see concerned about being associated with the term 'alt-right' or who is using it against 'them' are traditional Conservatives who don't want to be associated with their types. However, the 'Alt-Right' monkier was never meant to be for Conservatives, it was to distinguish themselves from it.

Fair enough.
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I would say it is about 50/50. Your 4Channer types are still wearing the title with pride, including it on their social media, memes, etc. It is their way of distinguishing themselves from traditional Conservatives. They seem to give no cares how the media uses it.

The only ones I really see concerned about being associated with the term 'alt-right' or who is using it against 'them' are traditional Conservatives who don't want to be associated with their types. However, the 'Alt-Right' monkier was never meant to be for Conservatives, it was to distinguish themselves from it.

Thus "Alt" (Alternative) Right.

They are progressives and contrary to popular belief, progressive does not mean left. Progressivism includes both left and right as a means of progressing past our constitutional "obstacles". The Progressive party was founded by great "conservative Republican" icon, Teddy Roosevelt.

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If CNN can find this guy so easily...why the delay on finding Trump/Russia collusion?  :shrug:
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If CNN can find this guy so easily...why the delay on finding Trump/Russia collusion?  :shrug:

Not enough physical asshats...er assets in the reporter pool.  Just a bunch of bubbling bedwetting bastards born with low t and a butt plug and a Bluetooth in their ear.

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Remember when the "conservative" treehouse editor was caught threatening to out that "filthy Kike" Mark Levin for his ties to the Cruz campaign. (Levin's girlfriend's adult son volunteered for the Cruz campaign)

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Oh, Lord.  I found a Treehouse article raving about Levin's accusation of anti-Semitism.  The first comment from a member mentioned the "troublemaking Ashkenazi."

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One thing that I have learned via observation is.... there really is no clearly defined "our side".  There are just varying degrees of "in between" vs. the radical left.  Just sayin....

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You mean that the right keep sliding to the left?  I agree with that.

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Well.... I didn't, after all, say that the term is 'never' applied accurately....

now did I.

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No, just "usually." 

We're not going to get prickly, are we?  Please tell me no, because we're just having a conversation, right?

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Oh, Lord.  I found a Treehouse article raving about Levin's accusation of anti-Semitism.  The first comment from a member mentioned the "troublemaking Ashkenazi."

The conservative nuthouse was only around for maybe a year prior to the primaries, at least that's when they started appearing at TOS.

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The left are absolute masters at redefining words to give them a different meaning than originally intended.  Early in 2016, I had an online debate with a lefty on exactly this issue -- "what do you think of the "Alt-right", and my response was "you need to define exactly who you mean by that", which he of course refused to do.  He just wanted me to condemn them without having to say exactly who I was condemning.

I think the original meaning of the term described a somewhat more populist, more confrontational group of conservatives who wanted to fight against political correctness, and what they perceived as the "go along/get along" mindset of establishment Republicans.  The left attempted to redefine the term to include "white supremacist/anti-gay/racist".  People who previously (and proudly) identified themselves as "Alt-right" but weren't racists objected to it, and that's pretty much been where the battle lines are drawn.   I think some establishment Republicans have pushed that same definition because the "Alt-right", however described, threatened their control of the GOP.  And of course, I'm sure there are some self-described "alt-right" types who are racist.  But certainly not all of them.

I personally never liked the term precisely because it wasn't well defined, and therefore could be characterized as almost anything by either supporters or detractors.  In any case, I think any finger-pointing or condemnation/criticism of the "Alt-right" must necessarily be preceded by agreement on exactly what the term means.  Otherwise, it's all kind of pointless.


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The left are absolute masters at redefining words to give them a different meaning than originally intended.  Early in 2016, I had an online debate with a lefty on exactly this issue -- "what do you think of the "Alt-right", and my response was "you need to define exactly who you mean by that", which he of course refused to do.  He just wanted me to condemn them without having to say exactly who I was condemning.

I think the original meaning of the term described a somewhat more populist, more confrontational group of conservatives who wanted to fight against political correctness, and what they perceived as the "go along/get along" mindset of establishment Republicans.  The left attempted to redefine the term to include "white supremacist/anti-gay/racist".  People who previously (and proudly) identified themselves as "Alt-right" but weren't racists objected to it, and that's pretty much been where the battle lines are drawn.   I think some establishment Republicans have pushed that same definition because the "Alt-right", however described, threatened their control of the GOP.  And of course, I'm sure there are some self-described "alt-right" types who are racist.  But certainly not all of them.

I personally never liked the term precisely because it wasn't well defined, and therefore could be characterized as almost anything by either supporters or detractors.  In any case, I think any finger-pointing or condemnation/criticism of the "Alt-right" must necessarily be preceded by agreement on exactly what the term means.  Otherwise, it's all kind of pointless.

I just enjoy the idiot judo that goes on between the various fringe groups both left and right.

Like that clown Mike Cernovich trying to pay antifa to disrupt a neo nazi rally only to find that the antifa group he made the offer to was a parody.

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The conservative nuthouse was only around for maybe a year prior to the primaries, at least that's when they started appearing at TOS.

TOS became a staunch defender of the alt-right during the campaign.  A longtime member there, with whom I had some good conversations, said that he and his teenaged sons were proudly alt-right. 


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What Is The Alt-Right?

http://www.dailywire.com/news/8638/what-alt-right-ben-shapiro#

Well, that's according to Ben Shapiro.  I'm sure there are others who don't agree with his definition, and since there isn't anyone in authority to be the gatekeeper of the term, it's malleable.

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TOS became a staunch defender of the alt-right during the campaign.  A longtime member there, with whom I had some good conversations, said that he and his teenaged sons were proudly alt-right.

Probably proud of Jr for being among those on twitter threatening to stomp my "jew brains" out with their size 12 "n****r stompers".  :silly:

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You mean that the right keep sliding to the left?  I agree with that.

We (all of us on "the right") are so divided on so many issues.... that there is no  clearly defined "right side" any more.  And yeah, I guess you could equate that with 'some' righties sliding to the left.  Sure, why not.
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TOS became a staunch defender of the alt-right during the campaign.  A longtime member there, with whom I had some good conversations, said that he and his teenaged sons were proudly alt-right.

Lol.... I don't think he knew what it really meant... ie how naïve he was.  It is now a leftie code word for really, really bigoted, racist and .... dare I say it? (I dare, I dare!)....

neo-Nazi-ish. 
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No, just "usually." 

We're not going to get prickly, are we?  Please tell me no, because we're just having a conversation, right?

Nah.   I'm just trying to clarify here.   ^-^
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Well, that's according to Ben Shapiro.  I'm sure there are others who don't agree with his definition, and since there isn't anyone in authority to be the gatekeeper of the term, it's malleable.

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*Shrug*  Pass on by, then. 
 
I believe his article is at least as accurate as any other explanation we've seen.  I'd say more so.

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*Shrug*  Pass on by, then.

Message boards generally don't operate by the rule that if you disagree with a posted article, you are required to just "pass on by".  At least not in my experience.  Usually, it's a point open for discussion or disagreement.

I think Shapiro unfairly lumps everyone who has ever considered themselves part of the "Alt-right" into the "racist Neanderthal" category.  While that description certainly applies to some people, it certainly doesn't apply to all.  And when you add that to the effort by the media to paint anyone who supports Trump as a member of the "Alt-right", you're then left with "if you support Trump, you're really a racist", which is what I think the goal of the left was all along -- delegitimize any effort to support Trump.

I don't, and never have, considered myself to be a member of the alt-right.  I don't even consider myself a supporter of Trump.  But I know an attempted leftist smear when I see one, and I don't think it helps to have other conservatives accept their characterizations so easily.
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Message boards generally don't operate by the rule that if you disagree with a posted article, you are required to just "pass on by".  At least not in my experience.  Usually, it's a point open for discussion or disagreement.

I think Shapiro unfairly lumps everyone who has ever considered themselves part of the "Alt-right" into the "racist Neanderthal" category.  While that description certainly applies to some people, it certainly doesn't apply to all.  And when you add that to the effort by the media to paint anyone who supports Trump as a member of the "Alt-right", you're then left with "if you support Trump, you're really a racist", which is what I think the goal of the left was all along -- delegitimize any effort to support Trump.

I don't, and never have, considered myself to be a member of the alt-right.  I don't even consider myself a supporter of Trump.  But I know an attempted leftist smear when I see one, and I don't think it helps to have other conservatives accept their characterizations so easily.

So Ben Shapiro is a leftist now too?

I know a leftist smear when I see one too. Even when it's buried under layers of smarmy pseudointellectual self righteousness.

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Thus "Alt" (Alternative) Right.

They are progressives and contrary to popular belief, progressive does not mean left. Progressivism includes both left and right as a means of progressing past our constitutional "obstacles". The Progressive party was founded by great "conservative Republican" icon, Teddy Roosevelt.

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An important distinction, IMO.