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PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« on: July 03, 2017, 12:13:22 pm »
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PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
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A majority of Americans in a new survey thinks civility has gotten worse since President Trump was elected.

A PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist Poll out early Monday found that 70 percent of Americans think civility has gotten worse since Trump's election.

Just 6 percent of Americans think civility is better now and 20 percent think it has stayed the same.

The poll also found that Americans trust the intelligence community and the courts the most and Congress and the media the least.

Sixty-one percent of respondents say they do not put much trust in the Trump administration.

That percentage is largely split among partisan lines, with 90 percent of Democrats saying they don't trust the Trump administration and 84 percent of Republicans saying the opposite.

More: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/340484-poll-70-percent-say-civility-has-dropped-since-trumps-election
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 01:25:58 pm »
Wait - what? Rioting, looting, assassination "jokes" and shooting MOCs are considered uncivil now?
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 04:51:25 pm »
PBS and all Leftists think civility only exists when everyone agrees with them.

When people do not agree with them and their agenda why then... protests and riots and violence are 'necessary resistance' to 'right wing fascism'.

So now that the divide has been made manifest and irreparable, to blame the incivility on Trump alone showcases what one expects Leftists to do in terms of blaming their targets and dehumanizing them for creating a sense of moral duty to impose punishment or to do violence upon them.

That said, Trump has only widened this divide and encouraged reciprocal action and delight in 'payback'.  We now have divides that are irreconcilable and all that remains is how long it will take before enough of the mob recognizes we can no longer peaceably coexist with the other.

Where a society goes when it reaches the place we have now arrived, is historically, a horror and a terror.

I know, I know...

..that cannot happen here.

The truth is, yes it can and yes it is.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 04:54:51 pm »
The other 30% are Trump voters shouting "MAGA"!   :whistle:
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 05:05:57 pm »
Guess people have forgot about the Bush years and Chimpybushhitler.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 05:09:42 pm »
Quote from: EC on July 03, 2017, 12:13:22 pm
Todays bit of input from Captain Obvious.

 
PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
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A majority of Americans in a new survey thinks civility has gotten worse since President Trump was elected.

A PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist Poll out early Monday found that 70 percent of Americans think civility has gotten worse since Trump's election.

Just 6 percent of Americans think civility is better now and 20 percent think it has stayed the same.

The poll also found that Americans trust the intelligence community and the courts the most and Congress and the media the least.

Sixty-one percent of respondents say they do not put much trust in the Trump administration.

That percentage is largely split among partisan lines, with 90 percent of Democrats saying they don't trust the Trump administration and 84 percent of Republicans saying the opposite.

More: http://thehill.com/homenews/news/340484-poll-70-percent-say-civility-has-dropped-since-trumps-election

Civility has gotten worse due to the accusations and antics from the Clinton administration, fake news and the liberal mentality in general.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 05:15:38 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on July 03, 2017, 05:09:42 pm
Civility has gotten worse due to the accusations and antics from the Clinton administration, fake news and the liberal mentality in general.

Things have gotten less civil since Trump was elected with tweeted insults coming from him and gunfire from the left.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 06:58:18 pm »
Well... this thread's shown me that even conservatives have short memories.

How quick we forget Trump suggesting that his supporters punch protesters... and that his pay for their legal bills.

And don't think the Left didn't pick up on that.  It's a big reason why Antifa is so violent.  They are putting Trump's words into practice.

Some warned that we should be careful as to what we call for... as that allows the Left to do it.  But those who raised the warning flag were shouted down by those wanting a fight.

Now you've got one.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 07:11:59 pm »
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A majority of Americans in a new survey thinks civility has gotten worse since President Trump was elected.

A raucous and sometimes violent "Resistance Movement" ---promoted by the MSM, Hollywood and a vocal minority of Congress --- will have this effect. 
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 07:13:29 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on July 03, 2017, 05:05:57 pm
Guess people have forgot about the Bush years and Chimpybushhitler.

Karl Rove's whiteboards are a bane to civil discourse in this country.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 07:15:06 pm »
Quote from: Snarknado on July 03, 2017, 01:25:58 pm
Wait - what? Rioting, looting, assassination "jokes" and shooting MOCs are considered uncivil now?

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 07:35:22 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on July 03, 2017, 06:58:18 pm
Well... this thread's shown me that even conservatives have short memories.

How quick we forget Trump suggesting that his supporters punch protesters... and that his pay for their legal bills.

And don't think the Left didn't pick up on that.  It's a big reason why Antifa is so violent.  They are putting Trump's words into practice.

Some warned that we should be careful as to what we call for... as that allows the Left to do it.  But those who raised the warning flag were shouted down by those wanting a fight.

Now you've got one.

Blaming leftist violence on Trump? I guess the leftist violence in the 60s and 70s, was due to Nixon by your reasoning.

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 07:43:24 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 03, 2017, 07:35:22 pm
Blaming leftist violence on Trump? I guess the leftist violence in the 60s and 70s, was due to Nixon by your reasoning.

Nixon wasn't egging them on with absurd 'finger-in-the-eye-threats' and Tweets or riling up campaign crowds cheering the promise of payback.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2017, 08:23:31 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on July 03, 2017, 06:58:18 pm
Well... this thread's shown me that even conservatives have short memories.

How quick we forget Trump suggesting that his supporters punch protesters... and that his pay for their legal bills.

And don't think the Left didn't pick up on that.  It's a big reason why Antifa is so violent.  They are putting Trump's words into practice.

Some warned that we should be careful as to what we call for... as that allows the Left to do it.  But those who raised the warning flag were shouted down by those wanting a fight.

Now you've got one.

Trump only said that after Obama told his supporters to 'get in the face' of those who disagreed.

So there goes your theory.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2017, 08:37:52 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on July 03, 2017, 08:23:31 pm
Trump only said that after Obama told his supporters to 'get in the face' of those who disagreed.

So there goes your theory.
Like practically every #nevertrump, media and democrat charge, this too proves to be without basis.

Nothing new. It is just the same old daily game they play.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2017, 08:47:03 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 03, 2017, 07:43:24 pm
Nixon wasn't egging them on with absurd 'finger-in-the-eye-threats' and Tweets or riling up campaign crowds cheering the promise of payback.

Oh yeah? I guess you were not in uniform in those days. I just had a conversation a few weeks ago, with a HS classmate of mine, who served as a helicopter gunner, and was spit upon in the airport upon his return.
 
VP Agnew called the press, the "nattering nabob of negatism." Sept. 1970.

Kent State, May 1970. Four dead, in Ohio. Where were you?

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2017, 08:51:27 pm »
From PBS?  The respondents must have been talking about themselves and their ilk. 
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2017, 10:07:32 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 03, 2017, 08:47:03 pm
Oh yeah? I guess you were not in uniform in those days. I just had a conversation a few weeks ago, with a HS classmate of mine, who served as a helicopter gunner, and was spit upon in the airport upon his return.
 
VP Agnew called the press, the "nattering nabob of negatism." Sept. 1970.

Kent State, May 1970. Four dead, in Ohio. Where were you?


Riding a bicycle.

Notwithstanding the activities of my youth, please provide the quote, statement or Tweet whereby Nixon stuck his finger in the eye of the media or the Hippies and instigated them to riot via your absurd equivocation of my comment regarding Trump's instigation of Leftists/Antifa and other other assorted Leftist morons out there.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2017, 10:39:18 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 03, 2017, 10:07:32 pm
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Figured as much.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2017, 10:49:17 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 03, 2017, 10:39:18 pm
Figured as much.

Yep....we've actually seen this 'movie' already.   Some of us, up close and personal.
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2017, 11:12:05 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on July 03, 2017, 10:07:32 pm
Notwithstanding the activities of my youth, please provide the quote, statement or Tweet whereby Nixon stuck his finger in the eye of the media or the Hippies and instigated them to riot via your absurd equivocation of my comment regarding Trump's instigation of Leftists/Antifa and other other assorted Leftist morons out there.

Don't hold your breath for an answer. 
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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2017, 11:40:23 pm »
Quote from: Suppressed on July 03, 2017, 11:12:05 pm
Don't hold your breath for an answer.
You can stop holding your breath.

I painted a true picture, of earlier times when America had violence in the streets, and the sitting VP talked tough.

The press and the democrats disliked Nixon, just as #nevertrump, the press and democrats do now.

If you cannot grasp it, ask around of your parents, boomer friends, etc.

Or read for yourselves results from this google "60s 70s violence" (I don't need a "quote, statement or Tweet" since I was in the midst of it in the military), not pedaling my tricycle. 

https://www.google.com/search?num=20&newwindow=1&q=60s+70s+violence+&oq=60s+70s+violence+&gs_l=serp.12...435064.444766.0.448458.17.17.0.0.0.0.311.1844.11j5j0j1.17.0....0...1.1.64.serp..0.15.1658...0j0i131k1j0i20k1j0i22i30k1j0i22i10i30k1j33i160k1j33i21k1._1LhEoE_uUo

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2017, 11:53:58 pm »
   Jeez, I just wish that #nevertrump label would just go away, but alas, it is such a volatile label and apparently, still works (on me at least).  Looked for the nevertrump tombstone found this one more appropriate, I hope you don't mind @truth_seeker

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2017, 11:59:02 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 03, 2017, 10:39:18 pm
Figured as much.

Just because you are an older fart than I am, doesn't make you any more special in my book.

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Re: PBS poll: 70 percent say civility has dropped since Trump’s election
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2017, 11:59:56 pm »
Quote from: HonestJohn on July 03, 2017, 06:58:18 pm
Well... this thread's shown me that even conservatives have short memories.

How quick we forget Trump suggesting that his supporters punch protesters... and that his pay for their legal bills.

And don't think the Left didn't pick up on that.  It's a big reason why Antifa is so violent.  They are putting Trump's words into practice.

Some warned that we should be careful as to what we call for... as that allows the Left to do it.  But those who raised the warning flag were shouted down by those wanting a fight.

Now you've got one.

My thoughts exactly, there was just as much incivility during the election.
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