Author Topic: Trump attacks 'Psycho' Joe Scarborough, 'Crazy' Mika Brzezinski in Twitter tear  (Read 17197 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,969
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
I am heavily inclined to share your skepticism. Under Obama they pulled out ALL the stops, to get and keep people involved with dependency.

Unemployment ran out, go on disability, etc. And go on EBT cards, too.

And as far as honesty in reporting ANYTHING, I would be equally skeptical of Obama era stats.

Before Obama it was easy to find murder by blacks rates on the DOJ site, but for 8 years it was buried very deeply. Instead murder of black stats were prominent.
There is a big concentration in coal country, too.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,969
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
Wow. #Nevertrumpers virtue signaling that Trump supporters are in dependent regions, whereby they are more virtuous, living in democrat sh!te hles on the coasts chocked full of feral welfare, EBT card users?

Am I reading the implications of the maps, and claimed virtuosity?

Don't about half of the members live in Texas, which voted for Trump?
I'm really not too worried. Really. Not. Between ND and MT, we're the worlds's third largest nuclear power. What, me worry?
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline Sanguine

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,986
  • Gender: Female
  • Ex-member
Wow. #Nevertrumpers virtue signaling that Trump supporters are in dependent regions, whereby they are more virtuous, living in democrat sh!te hles on the coasts chocked full of feral welfare, EBT card users?

Am I reading the implications of the maps, and claimed virtuosity?

Don't about half of the members live in Texas, which voted for Trump?

Yeah, you misread the map.

Online Weird Tolkienish Figure

  • Technical
  • *****
  • Posts: 18,218
I'm really not too worried. Really. Not. Between ND and MT, we're the worlds's third largest nuclear power. What, me worry?


Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 28,386
  • Gender: Male
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran
Reagan believed in free trade.  He supported the formation of the EU.  He backed our allies.  He supported the post-war economic system (Bretton Woods). 

Trump is opposed to all of that.
Reagan believed in Fair Trade. The EEC was formed before (1951) and the EU after (1993) he came into office. He befriended Russia, for peace.

You didn't respond to Lower taxes, reduced regulation, etc.
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

HonestJohn

  • Guest
Reagan believed in Fair Trade. The EEC was formed before (1951) and the EU after (1993) he came into office. He befriended Russia, for peace.

You didn't respond to Lower taxes, reduced regulation, etc.

By supporting and encouraging Thatcher to have the UK join the EEC, he was encouraging free trade.  For an economic union is, by definition, a large free trade zone.

He didn't attack it, unlike Trump.

---

And since you brought up Fair Trade... that's been a Democrat talking point for some time now.  Hillary, herself, supported it.

Which means you are claiming Reagan was, tradewise, much like the Democrats of today.

Furthermore, Republicans have now abandoned free trade as a matter of principle.  Proof?  More Democrats (for bleep's sake) support free trade than Republicans now.

« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 10:58:34 pm by HonestJohn »

Wingnut

  • Guest


Are you Jazzheads Sock Puppet account?  I never see you two post at the same time?

Online catfish1957

  • Laken Riley.... Say her Name. And to every past and future democrat voter- Her blood is on your hands too!!!
  • Political Researcher
  • *****
  • Posts: 31,844
  • Gender: Male
Trump attacks 'Psycho' Joe Scarborough, 'Crazy' Mika Brzezinski in Twitter tear



Trump the Jeckyll / Hyde POTUS.

I really like a lot of his direction in governance.

OTOH....   He is worthless piece of shit as a human.
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

Silver Pines

  • Guest
Trump the Jeckyll / Hyde POTUS.

I really like a lot of his direction in governance.

OTOH....   He is worthless piece of shit as a human.

@catfish1957

To me, Trump is a good example of a man who never took a punch but could have benefited from it immensely.

Offline Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 80,165
I'll take the Dufus who doesn't get us into endless wars and sends thousands of Americans to their death for nothing over the "Statesman" any day.



Yes, he was quite a statesman on so many levels ...   88devil


Offline XenaLee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15,398
  • Gender: Female
  • Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Yes, he was quite a statesman on so many levels ...   88devil



Hey, at least George didn't grab em by the ...

nevermind.
No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

Silver Pines

  • Guest
I didn't vote for Trump, to be my preacher. I voted for him to get conservative, American focused measures in place.

He is doing largely what he proposed to do during his campaign, and using innovative methods to cut through, over, under and around the crooked media.

Real conservatives should applaud him, but I understand their inability to understand his communication methods.

Writers/commentators including Scott Adams, Larry Schweikart, Victor Davis Hanson, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity and others understand and can explain, better than me.

@truth_seeker

Actually they can't.  All they can do is gush like schoolgirls, since most of them are Trump cultists and/or idiots.

There's a lot of territory between electing a president who isn't pastor material and electing a buffoon.  Although I will say that it's only now, at this point in time, that some on the right need it explained that yes, character and morality do matter in leaders.  And they still reject it.

That's always been the viewpoint of the left.  Until now.

Whatever good Trump manages to get done will be in spite of himself.  He's his own worst enemy.  Those tweets aren't the product of some cagey genius executing a move in a game of thirty-dimensional intergalactic chess.  They were just an insecure man lashing out because his feelings got hurt.


Offline Right_in_Virginia

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 80,165
Hey, at least George didn't grab em by the ...

nevermind.

That we know about .....   :smokin:



« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 02:48:34 am by Right_in_Virginia »

Offline Suppressed

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,921
  • Gender: Male
    • Avatar
Furthermore, Republicans have now abandoned free trade as a matter of principle.  Proof?  More Democrats (for bleep's sake) support free trade than Republicans now.

Yup.  The GOP has taken a hard turn to the left, and Trump's supporters are jamming the rudder trying to make it worse.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 03:34:15 am by Suppressed »
+++++++++
“In the outside world, I'm a simple geologist. But in here .... I am Falcor, Defender of the Alliance” --Randy Marsh

“The most effectual means of being secure against pain is to retire within ourselves, and to suffice for our own happiness.” -- Thomas Jefferson

“He's so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent.” --Foghorn Leghorn

Offline INVAR

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11,961
  • Gender: Male
  • Dread To Tread
    • Sword At The Ready
Actually they can't.  All they can do is gush like schoolgirls, since most of them are Trump cultists and/or idiots.

There's a lot of territory between electing a president who isn't pastor material and electing a buffoon.  Although I will say that it's only now, at this point in time, that some on the right need it explained that yes, character and morality do matter in leaders.  And they still reject it.

That's always been the viewpoint of the left.  Until now.

...Those tweets aren't the product of some cagey genius executing a move in a game of thirty-dimensional intergalactic chess.  They were just an insecure man lashing out because his feelings got hurt.

Once upon a time, not too long ago... it was the sole province of the Left that would have to engage in smarter-than-you Lawyeresque Intellispeak to explain to us simpletons burdened by principle and morality, the gross and juvenile misbehaviors, the gaffs and the criminal actions of their political messiahs as being above our mere mortal and lowly selves to truly understand the genius of.

Today we have the likes of Adams, Schweikart, Davis Hanson, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Dobbs, Hannity and others doing the same exact thing to justify their wholesale surrender of Conservative principles and morality to prop up a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat buffoon with a Twitter problem and a vindictive personality that must be assuaged publicly - as our champion who is far and above the understanding of those of us burdened by principles and morality they have no need nor use of anymore.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

Offline Cripplecreek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,718
  • Gender: Male
  • Constitutional Extremist
@truth_seeker


There's a lot of territory between electing a president who isn't pastor material and electing a buffoon.  Although I will say that it's only now, at this point in time, that some on the right need it explained that yes, character and morality do matter in leaders.  And they still reject it.


Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,507
The donor states did it to themselves. Every time they demanded federal tax increases on the "wealthy" they were pulling more money out of their own states because they all have a much higher cost of living. So as the cost of living and pay scale goes up, so does the taxes extracted and sent out of state. These people are idiots and they do it over and over again and can't figure out why it doesn't go as intended every time.

Online DB

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 13,507
Once upon a time, not too long ago... it was the sole province of the Left that would have to engage in smarter-than-you Lawyeresque Intellispeak to explain to us simpletons burdened by principle and morality, the gross and juvenile misbehaviors, the gaffs and the criminal actions of their political messiahs as being above our mere mortal and lowly selves to truly understand the genius of.

Today we have the likes of Adams, Schweikart, Davis Hanson, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Dobbs, Hannity and others doing the same exact thing to justify their wholesale surrender of Conservative principles and morality to prop up a lifelong NYC Liberal Democrat buffoon with a Twitter problem and a vindictive personality that must be assuaged publicly - as our champion who is far and above the understanding of those of us burdened by principles and morality they have no need nor use of anymore.

It is going to be an interesting and long 4 years to watch all this go down... In short, many people seem to think they have to act like their enemies, using their tactics, to "win" at any cost. It will be a Pyrrhic victory at best.

Offline Cripplecreek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,718
  • Gender: Male
  • Constitutional Extremist
It is going to be an interesting and long 4 years to watch all this go down... In short, many people seem to think they have to act like their enemies, using their tactics, to "win" at any cost. It will be a Pyrrhic victory at best.

"If you can't beat them, join them" is not a statement of victory. Its a statement of surrender.

Offline roamer_1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 44,092
There is a big concentration in coal country, too.

I was thinking that too... And the desert SW for some reason.

It really is a tempest in a teapot. It's roughly a 4 point swing, with a mean of around 5%. Any given year, any state might see a one point swing either way, so let's say 4-6% is normal seepage.

And the gigantic population of metropolises pads the states that have them... As an example,
There may be more people on welfare in MT percentage wise, but there's probably more people on welfare in Chicago alone than there is population in the state of MT... That big of a disparity in population pools makes for some weird anomalies. Something like that is likely in these statistics...


Offline Smokin Joe

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 56,969
  • I was a "conspiracy theorist". Now I'm just right.
I was thinking that too... And the desert SW for some reason.

It really is a tempest in a teapot. It's roughly a 4 point swing, with a mean of around 5%. Any given year, any state might see a one point swing either way, so let's say 4-6% is normal seepage.

And the gigantic population of metropolises pads the states that have them... As an example,
There may be more people on welfare in MT percentage wise, but there's probably more people on welfare in Chicago alone than there is population in the state of MT... That big of a disparity in population pools makes for some weird anomalies. Something like that is likely in these statistics...
Funny thing about data presentation. If the numbers won't make your point, try percentages.

If there are ten people in a room and five of them qualify, that's 50%
If there are a million and only 10% of them qualify, that's 100,000. You can hide the numbers with percentages, but saying there are "more" when there is just a higher percentage in misleading.

For instance, in West Virginia, in Dec. 2016, if you take OASDI (Old age, survivors, and disability) recipients' actual numbers, you find that they are 470,240 in number, less than 1% of the total of 60,907,307 recipients in the country for the same month https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/wv.pdf Of that total, 89,508 were disabled workers, who were .14% of the total recipients in the country, and of the 8,808,736 disabled workers nationwide, they represent only 1.02%

Considering there are 50 states, in real numbers, the other 49 are 98.98% of the beneficiaries, and I hardly think this puts West Virginia high on the radar.

By contrast, New York has 502,062 disabled workers in the same month (over 5 times as many)source, and California had 682,668 disabled workerssource , again in the same month, 5 1/2 and 7 1/2 times as many recipients, respectively, as West Virginia.

Anyone who wants real numbers (assuming the Soc Sec folks know what they did) for Dec. 2016 can find them here https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/factsheets/cong_stats/2016/index.html, by state, by region, but oddly enough not just summarized in a table.

Someone was using derivative data rates rather than actual numbers to make their point, but the point and the presentation are misleading, and make some regions look worse than others.

 It also ignores the tremendous effort put forth by the Obama Administration to get folks in 'Coal Country' to sign up for Federal programs, from Welfare to SSDI, in a region which traditionally resisted being "on relief" because of the social stigma attached to not 'doing for your own'.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Yeah, you misread the map.

@Sanguine he does that with regularity.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline txradioguy

  • Propaganda NCOIC
  • Cat Mod
  • *****
  • Posts: 23,534
  • Gender: Male
  • Rule #39
Once again we see reason number 125,000,495 as to why this man needs to grow the eff up and quit using twitter to say things to people he'd never dare say to their faces.  It's cowardly and unbecoming a man in the office he currently holds.
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

Here lies in honored glory an American soldier, known but to God

THE ESTABLISHMENT IS THE PROBLEM...NOT THE SOLUTION

Republicans Don't Need A Back Bench...They Need a BACKBONE!

Offline Cripplecreek

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12,718
  • Gender: Male
  • Constitutional Extremist

Trump will never be about civility because he's a political suicide bomber intent on destroying the GOP and conservatism. So called conservatives have happily joined Trump in adopting every obnoxious lowlife behavior of the left and are calling it winning.

Trump is doing a fine job of proving that *******.

Let's just not.  MOD 2
« Last Edit: June 30, 2017, 01:13:17 pm by Mod2 »