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Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« on: June 29, 2017, 03:24:55 pm »
Josh Dawsey , Eliana Johnson and Alex Isenstadt
Politico
June 28, 2017

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Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s frustrations with the White House have been building for months. Last Friday, they exploded.

The normally laconic Texan unloaded on Johnny DeStefano, the head of the presidential personnel office, for torpedoing proposed nominees to senior State Department posts and for questioning his judgment.

Tillerson also complained that the White House was leaking damaging information about him to the news media, according to a person familiar with the meeting. Above all, he made clear that he did not want DeStefano’s office to “have any role in staffing” and “expressed frustration that anybody would know better” than he about who should work in his department — particularly after the president had promised him autonomy to make his own decisions and hires, according to a senior White House aide familiar with the conversation.
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 03:28:45 pm »
So Trumps SIL Don Kirchner says it was "unprofessional".   

There is a guy who should just keep his piehole shut.

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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 03:29:05 pm »
He's frustrated with more leaks like this one?
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 03:31:17 pm »
He's frustrated with more leaks like this one?

Trump's management style in a nutshell: in-fighting and chaos is what he seeks.
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 03:32:21 pm »
according to a senior White House aide familiar with the conversation.

Ah. More fake news from Polutico. Unnamed sources are out of vogue these days, or didn't they hear.

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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 04:14:43 pm »
Trump's management style in a nutshell: in-fighting and chaos is what he seeks.

It worked for Stalin.

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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 04:20:44 pm »
It worked for Stalin.

Worked for Hitler too.

Keeps any potential rivalry to the Dictator occupied and less likely to overthrow the despot for themselves.
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 04:23:08 pm »
It worked for Stalin.

Now Trump is like Stalin?

Are you nuts?
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2017, 04:23:58 pm »
Trump's management style in a nutshell: in-fighting and chaos is what he seeks.

It couldn't be the whackos are making this crap up now could it?
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2017, 04:27:07 pm »
Worked for Hitler too.

Keeps any potential rivalry to the Dictator occupied and less likely to overthrow the despot for themselves.

Megalomaniacs always point to enemies all around as a means of distracting from their own inadequacies.

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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2017, 04:38:20 pm »

"according to a senior White House aide familiar with the conversation"


Wow. This guy is amazing. He seems to be in every office, every meeting, and every conference call in D.C. And he writes great fiction.


   It was a dark and stormy night when Tillerson exploded. Everyone shuddered to think what may happen next!


He is so prolific. I must read three or four of his short stories in the paper every day. I hope he will tell us the one about Trump being under investigation again. That was a good tale. Or maybe he will re-release the story of how Trump is really a Russian agent working for Putin.
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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2017, 04:40:51 pm »
"according to a senior White House aide familiar with the conversation"


Wow. This guy is amazing. He seems to be in every office, every meeting, and every conference call in D.C. And he writes great fiction.


   It was a dark and stormy night when Tillerson exploded. Everyone shuddered to think what may happen next!


He is so prolific. I must read three or four of his short stories in the paper every day. I hope he will tell us the one about Trump being under investigation again. That was a good tale. Or maybe he will re-release the story of how Trump is really a Russian agent working for Putin.

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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2017, 04:42:09 pm »
You all have lost your minds and credibility when you start the Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Idi Amin His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts ... comments.

You have Lowered yourselves to the level of your average democrat.   You should be ashamed and have your peepee's whacked.
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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2017, 04:46:42 pm »
You all have lost your minds and credibility when you start the Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Idi Amin His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts ... comments.

You have Lowered yourselves to the level of your average democrat.   You should be ashamed and have your peepee's whacked.
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2017, 04:52:43 pm »
You all have lost your minds and credibility when you start the Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Idi Amin His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts ... comments.

You have Lowered yourselves to the level of your average democrat.   You should be ashamed and have your peepee's whacked.

Uhhhh.... pointing out an historical fact there.  Narcissistic egomaniacs in leadership positions tend to keep their inner circles fighting amongst themselves.

That's an historical fact.

Your average Democrat has absolutely no clue about history or the despots they think were terrific humanitarians.
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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2017, 04:56:48 pm »
So Trumps SIL Don Kirchner says it was "unprofessional".   

This morning's tweeting from Trump certainly lends credence to the accusations of 'unprofessional'.

I certainly do not discount the possibility, given the fruits of the man even as late as this morning.

He is no statesman, and certainly completely unprofessional.
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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2017, 05:06:03 pm »
Worked for Hitler too.

Keeps any potential rivalry to the Dictator occupied and less likely to overthrow the despot for themselves.

Worked for the Puritan Lord Protector, Oliver Cromwell, until it didn't and they wanted their King back.

(Special emphasis on the "Puritan" part, for the virtue signalers here)

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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2017, 05:13:58 pm »
@240B
Not only that but some people believe everything he says!!

Not only that, but some automatically reject everything he says!!!

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2017, 05:17:07 pm »
You all have lost your minds and credibility when you start the Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Idi Amin His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts ... comments.

You have Lowered yourselves to the level of your average democrat.   You should be ashamed and have your peepee's whacked.

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Re: Tillerson blows up at top White House aide
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2017, 05:29:24 pm »
You all have lost your minds and credibility when you start the Hitler/Stalin/Mussolini/Idi Amin His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts ... comments.

You have Lowered yourselves to the level of your average democrat.   You should be ashamed and have your peepee's whacked.

A comparison on some of the traits doesn't mean he has all of the traits. 

For example, his public speaking isn't nearly as good as Hitler's, and Stalin was more able to accomplish things. 

But there are similarities, and it's valid to bring those up.
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2017, 05:47:34 pm »
This morning's tweeting from Trump certainly lends credence to the accusations of 'unprofessional'.

I certainly do not discount the possibility, given the fruits of the man even as late as this morning.

He is no statesman, and certainly completely unprofessional.

Shhh...he's got the nuclear codes...  22222frying pan
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2017, 05:49:02 pm »
Not only that, but some automatically reject everything he says!!!

IMO, the correct answer should be closer to the latter than the former, if only because he changes his mind so readily, and so often.
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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2017, 05:49:16 pm »
A comparison on some of the traits doesn't mean he has all of the traits. 

For example, his public speaking isn't nearly as good as Hitler's, and Stalin was more able to accomplish things. 

But there are similarities, and it's valid to bring those up.

I kindly call that pure and simple Horse Hockey.  There "are" no similarities.  But hey you are free to believe whatever your trump hate allows you to believe

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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2017, 05:57:30 pm »
I kindly call that pure and simple Horse Hockey.  There "are" no similarities.  But hey you are free to believe whatever your trump hate allows you to believe

Trump certainly likes him some Benito Mussolini:



“Chuck, it's OK to know it's Mussolini. Look, Mussolini was Mussolini. It's OK to — it's a very good quote, it's a very interesting quote, and I know it" - Donald J. Trump - Meet The Press 2/28/2016
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2017, 06:08:28 pm »
Trump certainly likes him some Benito Mussolini:



“Chuck, it's OK to know it's Mussolini. Look, Mussolini was Mussolini. It's OK to — it's a very good quote, it's a very interesting quote, and I know it" - Donald J. Trump - Meet The Press 2/28/2016

Trump is such a simple moron he would probably take it as a compliment. Lets not forget that this is the clown who when asked about allegations of Putin killing journalists could only answer with "At least he's a leader". When asked about his feelings on the Tianamen square massacre he said of the Chinese govt, "At least they were decisive".

I'm seriously tempted to set up a fake "Robert Mugabe" twitter account to lure Trump into retweeting crazy crap.