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I fully expect a Shoot-The-Messenger reply from party loyalists to the observation this author notes, but Jamitis makes salient points that illustrate the truth of why it is the GOP now refuses to repeal ObamaCare.

For me, the reason is simple, THEY want ObamaCare to remain in place for the advent of Single Payer as much as the Democrats do.  As always, the GOP thinks they can better manage Socialism than the Democrats can.  It is self-evident that the GOP does not give a rat's ass about those that put them in power to STOP Obamacare and Obama's agenda.

The GOP WANTS ObamaCare.  They want to OWN it themselves.  They want to be there at the ground floor when Single Payer is crafted, and those of us who want our liberty back have been told to go to hell and shut up because they cannot risk political damage.  Meanwhile they engage in shell games intended to deceive their own base and party with the lie they are trying to 'fix' a program that only exists to destroy and bring down the entire private insurance market and put government in position to totally take over healthcare.

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Do Republicans Even Remember Why Obamacare Should Be Repealed?

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The people who opposed Obamacare and the underhanded way it was created and passed marched on Washington because they recognized it as a federal overreach...

...All of the promises turned out—unsurprisingly—to be flagrant lies.

...“Lack of transparency is a huge political advantage, and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting the thing to pass,” Jonathan Gruber said at the Annual Health Economics Conference.

...The only criticism of Obamacare that Trump can muster has to do with its financial performance—practically the same attack he lamely uses on his critics. He has gone on record praising single payer healthcare and even recently said that Australian socialized medicine is superior to ours.

...G.K. Chesterton perhaps said it best: “Compromise used to mean that half a loaf was better than no bread. Among modern statesmen it really seems to mean that half a loaf; is better than a whole loaf.”

To those who will attempt to throw Reagan's 'half a loaf is better than no loaf at all' justification for the GOP's efforts to take total ownership of ObamaCare and massage it's misery so as to avoid 'political damage' - the misapplication of what it is Reagan was actually addressing also is a disingenuous effort to shame us into supporting overt tyranny.  The fact, is, we had a full loaf before 2010.  The Democrats took that loaf away from us without a single GOP vote in 2010.   Now we are told to be happy to get maybe 'half' of what we want back when the GOP promised us that they would return the whole loaf if we would only put them into power?

I'm sick of that bullsheist argument.  If you had a hundred bucks stolen from you at gunpoint, do you want to hear that getting back only $30 is 'realistic' and that your demand to have every cent returned makes you the 'problem'?
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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2017, 08:15:27 pm »
Republicans don't know what the word "repeal" means. Or they figure we, the voters, don't know what the word means.  So they cobble together this bill, call it "repeal" and figure we all will be OK with it.

Sadly, though, they are probably right.  They also know that while we, the few with more than one brain cell between us, are fully aware this is not the repeal we were promised, we will continue to vote for Republicans because we have no other choice. 

Someday while I'm still on this earth, I hope to see more than a few of us voters prove them wrong.

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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2017, 09:42:14 pm »
   Thanks for posting this @INVAR
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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2017, 09:54:06 pm »
Sadly, though, they are probably right.  They also know that while we, the few with more than one brain cell between us, are fully aware this is not the repeal we were promised, we will continue to vote for Republicans because we have no other choice.

What do you call a liberal with two brain cells?

Pregnant.

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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2017, 10:41:50 pm »
Mike Lee wrote an op-ed about the healthcare bill that pretty well sums up conservative's position.


http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/06/24/mike-lee-penned-op-ed-obamacare-replacement-bill-need-read/

All we can hope for now is states and/or individuals being able to opt out, but even in this if the opt out is at the discretion of the Secty. of HHS it really isn't an opt out.

I backed the Pubs for 7 long years with the promise that they would repeal obamacare. If they don't do it now they never will. If conservatives vote for a bill that "reforms obamacare" with the argument that it's "the best we could do" I see no point in voting for them or contributing to their campaigns. It would be better to let obamacare completely collapse than to support a bill that maintains the status quo.
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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 12:04:28 am »
What do you call a liberal with two brain cells?

Pregnant.
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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 12:33:07 am »
What do you call a liberal with two brain cells?

Pregnant.

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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
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Re: Republicans Do Not Even Remember Why ObamaCare Should Be Repealed
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2017, 03:02:26 am »
Mike Lee wrote an op-ed about the healthcare bill that pretty well sums up conservative's position.

http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2017/06/24/mike-lee-penned-op-ed-obamacare-replacement-bill-need-read/


No, the Senate healthcare bill released yesterday does not repeal Obamacare. It doesn’t even significantly reform American healthcare.

It cuts taxes. It bails out insurance companies. It props up Obamacare through the next election. It lays out plans to slow Medicaid spending beginning in 2025, but that probably won’t happen. And it leaves in place the ham-fisted federal regulations that have driven up family health insurance premiums by 140 percent since Obamacare was implemented.

As the bill is currently drafted, I won’t vote for it.


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I backed the Pubs for 7 long years with the promise that they would repeal obamacare. If they don't do it now they never will. If conservatives vote for a bill that "reforms obamacare" with the argument that it's "the best we could do" I see no point in voting for them or contributing to their campaigns. It would be better to let obamacare completely collapse than to support a bill that maintains the status quo.

Correctamundo.  Doing nothing at all is a far better option than either of these Republican bills.  If they pass this without repealing Obamacare, then they will prove once and for all why people call them the Stupid Party.  The only question that will remain is how Senate Majority Leader Schumer wants his new office decorated.
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