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So, @AbaraXas  question that you may not be able to answer: why, if this is all true (and, I'm not doubting that it may be), why did the press not cover this?  Did they not believe that he could win so they didn't bother?  Did they enjoy the viewership that having Trump on camera got for them, so they didn't want to rock that boat?  Or, did they and I missed it?
But wait! There's More! https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-heat-of-legal-fight-lawyer-says-he-got-a-shocking-phone-call-from-donald-trump/2016/03/25/b8c8d900-e7c1-11e5-b0fd-073d5930a7b7_story.html?utm_term=.d964e0441fd1

Yep, in the midst of trying to take Vera Coking's house by eminent domain, he tried to hire her attorney to fight against another (competing) casino owner using eminent domain.

These things were often brought out, especially at TOS, but buried in the fusilade from BFAC and the rest of the "Trump Family". I don't know if the mods edited them out or not. Then, with the 'big shift' over there, little came out in a way that could be heard, and those riding the train didn't want to look at the scenery.
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It depends on the Feldspars. If the Feldspars are Anorthite, they are way up Bowen's Reaction Series, and though they may be feldspars, are considered Mafic. The Plagioclase Feldspars form a continuous series from the most mafic (Ca rich) to the more intermediate (Na rich), with the Orthoclase Feldspars at the lowest temperatures and considered to be the granitic end of the spectrum.

If felspathoids are present, there is low silica in the mix, and that may indicate a more mafic source, too.

Excellent!  That's a reply I can throw a spitball at, you despicable cad!   

You broad-net radicals, calling something "mafic" without a smidgen of magnesium or iron in it!  :laugh:

Seriously, though, an excellent reply.  To be honest, I was looking at the "ultramafite" on a slide presentation, and the presenter said the light banding was "felsic", so I can't be sure it wasn't Ca-spar or a feldspathoid...in fact, I suspect it was one or the other.  My metamorphic petrology isn't that great -- but I figured this could get a good spitball fight!

That's a good page on feldspathoids.  I've always liked them, as they often have a cool greasy luster.  And I think sodalite is just plain beautiful in a good sample.

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C'mon @Emjay, I like you, but you're overreaching here. I'd just like to see the Leader of the Free World, and our Commander in Chief, hold himself to a higher standard than he's demonstrated...for decades.

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Excellent!  That's a reply I can throw a spitball at, you despicable cad!   

You broad-net radicals, calling something "mafic" without a smidgen of magnesium or iron in it!  :laugh:

Seriously, though, an excellent reply.  To be honest, I was looking at the "ultramafite" on a slide presentation, and the presenter said the light banding was "felsic", so I can't be sure it wasn't Ca-spar or a feldspathoid...in fact, I suspect it was one or the other.  My metamorphic petrology isn't that great -- but I figured this could get a good spitball fight!

That's a good page on feldspathoids.  I've always liked them, as they often have a cool greasy luster.  And I think sodalite is just plain beautiful in a good sample.

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This is taking me back to undergraduate Mineralogy class.  Which I loved, and still have my textbook. 

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This is taking me back to undergraduate Mineralogy class.  Which I loved, and still have my textbook.

Mine was taught by an old Canadian mining geologist, who looked the part of prospector.  He'd turn a sample over in his hand, take a puff on his pipe(!), and give us the spot-on identification. 
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This is taking me back to undergraduate Mineralogy class.  Which I loved, and still have my textbook.
I loved it, too. and petrography/petrology, mineral optics, "genetic mineralogy" which dealt with assemblages, and really got interesting. Which got me into a start on a Masters in Uranium geochemistry just before Three Mile Island.... Oh well, oil has paid the bills, most years.

I still love going out looking for 'goodies', and have a hard time driving past an old mine dump.
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Excellent!  That's a reply I can throw a spitball at, you despicable cad!   

You broad-net radicals, calling something "mafic" without a smidgen of magnesium or iron in it!  :laugh:

Seriously, though, an excellent reply.  To be honest, I was looking at the "ultramafite" on a slide presentation, and the presenter said the light banding was "felsic", so I can't be sure it wasn't Ca-spar or a feldspathoid...in fact, I suspect it was one or the other.  My metamorphic petrology isn't that great -- but I figured this could get a good spitball fight!

That's a good page on feldspathoids.  I've always liked them, as they often have a cool greasy luster.  And I think sodalite is just plain beautiful in a good sample.

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Thanks, @rodamala !
Sodalite is a favorite, but I'm a sucker for blue minerals, anyway.
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Mine was taught by an old Canadian mining geologist, who looked the part of prospector.  He'd turn a sample over in his hand, take a puff on his pipe(!), and give us the spot-on identification.
I learned from a guy who did a lot of work on the White Mountains in New Hampshire, and had figured the crystalline basement of the Mid Atlantic Appalachian Piedmont was, at least in part obducted. While many looked askance at the idea, then, later an oil company did seismic out there and found stratified rock beneath...

My other mineralogy Professor was a hardcore collector, too, and assembled quite a museum. Another contributor was a guy who had been a cabinetmaker while they were putting the woodwork together in the Smithsonian Natural History museum, who asked John Sinkankis if he would teach him something or if he had something he could read to learn more about minerals. Sinkankis handed him the first volume of Dana's System of Mineralogy, and told him to put it someplace he'd read it regularly. (He did, on the back of the toilet). Before the cabinetwork was done he'd read all three volumes and knew mineralogy well enough to publish a peer reviewed paper on the Franklin Marble, later quoted in the second professor's doctoral dissertation. It was a unique crew to learn from, and Mr. K had collected over 3000 micromount specimens he kept in a really beautiful cabinet he'd made for himself.

In grad School, I had a mining Prof, who had walked out of Russia as a boy during the revolution, and he was a very interesting and affable fellow who loved to discuss small mine techniques from yesteryear. Interesting stuff, and the sort of thing a guy could use to get an operation from discovery to development without a lot of capital.
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Was any candidate more vicious than Trump? And I mean vicious in a bad way. He repeatedly lied, he called everyone names, said whatever it took to "win". An old man of low character wasn't going to suddenly change due to the weight and seriousness of the White House he sought.

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Was any candidate more vicious than Trump? And I mean vicious in a bad way. He repeatedly lied, he called everyone names, said whatever it took to "win". An old man of low character wasn't going to suddenly change due to the weight and seriousness of the White House he sought.

Trump burnt more bridges than Sherman in Georgia.  Because of that, if things turn on him scandal wise, the GOP will turn on him like a pack of starving ravaged jackals.
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Some TBR people seem to need to reaffirm their own virtue by proclaiming that they do not approve of Trump's personal behavior past and present.

I (and others) are consistent in our disapproval of "Trump's personal behavior past and present," and you have no business ascribing a motive to our steadfast positions.


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I (and others) are consistent in our disapproval of "Trump's personal behavior past and present," and you have no business ascribing a motive to our steadfast positions.

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if things turn on him scandal wise, the GOP will turn on him like a pack of starving ravaged jackals.

WILL   turn???????????????   

When was the GOP on the President's side?  The grandiose, self-righteous and eternally wrong nevertrumps did not get their name by accident @catfish1957




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I (and others) are consistent in our disapproval of "Trump's personal behavior past and present," and you have no business ascribing a motive to our steadfast positions.

You have no business questioning my right to ascribe a motive to your noble and steadfast positions.

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You have no business questioning my right to ascribe a motive to your noble and steadfast positions.

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If you think Trump is given a pass, you're not paying attention.

The forces lined up against him include billionaires like Soros, evil democrats (is that an oxymoron?) like Hillary and Obama, the main stream media, Hollywood and all of the in crowd in entertainment and many people here on TBR.
If you would put us in the same class as Soros and the Democrats and the MSM you might be on the wrong website. We prefer oxymorons to the ones from a reducing environment. (chemistry joke).
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Some TBR people seem to need to reaffirm their own virtue by proclaiming that they do not approve of Trump's personal behavior past and present.
Horse manure. We ARE paying attention. We HAVE BEEN paying attention. If you and others wish to be like the frog who gave the scorpion a ride across the pond, kindly don't act surprised when you get stung.

In the meantime, it is our DUTY to assess the job performance of the persons in Government, after all they work for us. I have done so with every POTUS since JFK, and will continue to do so. There is a long list of promises that man made when he applied for the job he has now, and I'll even be fair enough to use that list as my barometer of his effectiveness in office. He was the one who made the promises, let him fulfill them, at least the ones I approve of. If he is being ineffective, we should say so. If we think he can do better, we should say so, If we have suggestions, again pipe up, and if we think he got it right, we should give positive reinforcement, too. And we do.  But there are those here willing to overlook his faults and flaws and deride the messengers, which is not a constructive feedback loop.

As for conditioning my remarks with disclaimers, no. Not happening. Let them stand on their own merits and trust me to be fair.
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WILL   turn???????????????   

When was the GOP on the President's side?  The grandiose, self-righteous and eternally wrong nevertrumps did not get their name by accident @catfish1957

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Are you old enough to remember Watergate?  There was a point in early '74- until resignation, that the GOP would have voted not only for impeachment, but for senate conviction.  You'll know when it has happened by the tone of congressional hearings.  Believe me.....   they have not "turned" yet.
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Ivanka and  her brothers slept thru the primaries.
Daddy calling Dr. Carson a pedophile.......didn't hear it.
Everyone on the stage with him a liar, lazy, stupid.........didn't hear it.
Carly Fiorina..............too ugly to be president.........didn't hear it.
Cruz dad an accomplice to the JFK assassination...........didn't hear it.

Exactly.  What did she expect?  For that matter, what did the Trump family expect??  They've grown up all their lives with more money then they could ever spend and bumping shoulders with leftists and all their left wing ideology.  Now they find themselves suddenly on the other team which I'm sure hasn't set well with their friends and associates.  Ivanka and her husband have been inserted into the White House despite nepotism laws which doesn't sit well with conservatives.
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Ivanka and  her brothers slept thru the primaries.
Daddy calling Dr. Carson a pedophile.......didn't hear it.
Everyone on the stage with him a liar, lazy, stupid.........didn't hear it.
Carly Fiorina..............too ugly to be president.........didn't hear it.
Cruz dad an accomplice to the JFK assassination...........didn't hear it.

Of course not.  Like all good Trumpettes, she only hears what she wants to hear. 

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WILL   turn???????????????   

When was the GOP on the President's side?  The grandiose, self-righteous and eternally wrong nevertrumps did not get their name by accident @catfish1957

In response, I'm just going to quote @libertybele, (the "he" is Trump):

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Cruz is a constitutional conservative.  He openly stated he voted for Trump for two reasons; to defeat Hillary and to seat conservatives on the SCOTUS bench. IMHO Trump's more ardent supporters still take issue with Cruz not endorsing him at the GOP convention and let's not forget all the ugliness Trump spewed about Cruz.  When Cruz has felt Trump has been correct he has applauded him, it seems to me, he's been silent for the most part while the 'circus' is going on.  He's up for re-election in '18 and remember, Trump has threatened to unseat him.  Trump has never shown any gratitude towards Ted or acknowledged his role in getting him elected; neither have his supporters.

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Ivanka and  her brothers slept thru the primaries.
Daddy calling Dr. Carson a pedophile.......didn't hear it.
Everyone on the stage with him a liar, lazy, stupid.........didn't hear it.
Carly Fiorina..............too ugly to be president.........didn't hear it.
Cruz dad an accomplice to the JFK assassination...........didn't hear it.

Attacks on Barbara Bush..........didn't hear it.
Attacks on Heidi Cruz..........didn't hear it.
Trump's buds at the National Enquirer accusing Ted Cruz of multiple affairs.....didn't hear it.

Karma, she's a mother and she hasn't even gotten started with Trump and the GOP.


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Of course not.  Like all good Trumpettes, she only hears what she wants to hear.

Exactly....and there are many of us here who will always.....repeat always will consider Donald J. Trump an unmitigated POS.

For a man who wants to foster and expect loyalty.........   he sure has a bizarre method of trying to reach those means.

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Was any candidate more vicious than Trump? And I mean vicious in a bad way. He repeatedly lied, he called everyone names, said whatever it took to "win". An old man of low character wasn't going to suddenly change due to the weight and seriousness of the White House he sought.

Well remember all the stooges on FNC assuring us DT would pivot and be presidential..........
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Was any candidate more vicious than Trump? And I mean vicious in a bad way. He repeatedly lied, he called everyone names, said whatever it took to "win". An old man of low character wasn't going to suddenly change due to the weight and seriousness of the White House he sought.

After accusing Rafael Cruz of involvement in the JFK assassination Trump told Wolf Blitzer that he never really believed it himself but he wanted to win.

That's what disgusts me so much about the adherents of Trumpism. They know their God/King is a lying immoral man but rather than admit it they deflect by accusing everyone else. Its exactly what the left does and I hope they realize that God (the real one) doesn't have any blind spots.