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GOP Rep Recorded Saying Thanks to Trump ‘We’re Going to Hand the Gavel to Pelosi in 2018’

Posted at 12:30 pm on June 9, 2017 by Jim Jamitis


Someone managed to make a secret recording of a talk given by Congresswoman Martha McSally to the Arizona Bankers Association. McSally expressed frustration with how President Trump’s antics are making things difficult for House Republicans seeking reelection.
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McSally complained that President Donald Trump and his tweets were creating troubling “distractions” and “it’s basically being taken out on me. Any Republican member of Congress, you are going down with the ship. And we’re going to hand the gavel to Pelosi in 2018, they only need 28 seats and the path to that gavel being handed over is through my seat. And right now, it doesn’t matter that it’s me, it doesn’t matter what I’ve done. I have an ‘R’ next to my name and right now, this environment would have me not prevail.”
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http://www.redstate.com/jimjamitis/2017/06/09/gop-rep-recorded-saying-thanks-trump-going-hand-gavel-pelosi-2018/

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Well, it's likely true.
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It isn't the dress that makes them look fat.

It's the fat. Repeal the ACA, do what y'all were sent there to do, and we'll see about 2018. But if the House GOP is going to blame Trump (or anyone else) for their lack of performance, they need to go anyway, because they aren't going to do any good just sitting in the middle of the road whining.
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Trump will have little to do with the House going back to Pelosi's Commies.  The GOP under Boehner and Ryan will have themselves mostly to blame because most Conservatives are stating openly what we already have admitted; why bother voting for Republicans when they act in favor of and for Democrats and their agenda - such as making ObamaCare their own instead of repealing it as promised?
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Trump will have little to do with the House going back to Pelosi's Commies.  The GOP under Boehner and Ryan will have themselves mostly to blame because most Conservatives are stating openly what we already have admitted; why bother voting for Republicans when they act in favor of and for Democrats and their agenda - such as making ObamaCare their own instead of repealing it as promised?
Precisely. If they get it to his desk, it is likely he'll sign it. Getting reelected, however, is on them. It's time to make good on the promises they made their constituents to get elected in the first place, and they have made it obvious they aren't going to do that. If Republicans get those seats next time, it will be new ones. That isn't saying some of the worst aren't safe in their jobs, but that is between them and the fools who vote them in.
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The assumption is that the Repubs don't WANT that to happen.  I think they're tickled sh!tless when they're not in control.   Being in control is hard work...they're expected to actually move the ball...as opposed to just pretending to obstruct the Dems while they're positioning for their next cocktail party invitation.

I loathe them.
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The assumption is that the Repubs don't WANT that to happen.  I think they're tickled sh!tless when they're not in control.   Being in control is hard work...they're expected to actually move the ball...as opposed to just pretending to obstruct the Dems while they're positioning for their next cocktail party invitation.

I loathe them.

The people by and large are the same way. Nothing makes Americans happier than to use the opposition as a threat and point the finger of blame.

Trump was painted as the last great hope of mankind against the rising hordes and now that it becomes ever more clear that he isn't, it becomes someone else's fault.

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Dems better think about who they may want to consider, if they regain control.  That old bat is becoming more bizarre and unhinged every day.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Ryan's defense of all things Trump is so cringe-worthy.
Perhaps he knows he'll be following Eric Cantor out the door to a rich new lifestyle.

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This stupid woman deserves to lose her seat.  Shut your big, fat mouth and do the job you were elected to do.  Stop blaming your incompetence on Trump.  Congress has been useless for years, none of which is Trump's fault.  People complain about Trump's tweets but at least he isn't out running his mouth and being secretly recorded. 22222frying pan

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The people by and large are the same way. Nothing makes Americans happier than to use the opposition as a threat and point the finger of blame.

Trump was painted as the last great hope of mankind against the rising hordes and now that it becomes ever more clear that he isn't, it becomes someone else's fault.
People made the assumption that the GOP was only stopped from fulfilling all those grand campaign promises they made, the ones they even went so far as to pass Bills to do, knowing Obama would veto them, because of Obama. All that was missing was the man in the Oval Office.

Well, no.

Now that Obama isn't the problem, the GOP is proving it never intended anything which had a prayer in Hell of actually getting through. Obama, as crooked and bad as he was, it turns out isn't the only enemy any more, the effing "moderates", the global socialist moles in the Republican Party are.

They are why the ACA hasn't been repealed, They didn't fund any new border barrier, and they stand in the way of other agenda items that we had been assured for years they supported.

THEY LIED.

It doesn't matter who the POTUS is, they are limited in what they can do by the requirement for the Congress to pass the Bills. We all knew that, even if some didn't want to admit it.

If those rat b@st@rds on the Hill could pass a repeal bill for the ACA when Obama was POTUS, they can sure do it now. But they have to do it.

Anything else is just Congress packing it into their portfolio, hitting up the next round of cost plus K Street cocktail parties, and sticking the American People with the tab while they whittle away at our Rights.

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McSally has a point.  If Trump's approval is sitting at 39% on Election Day, the pubs are going to lose control, no matter what changes they make.  George W had similar numbers in 2006.

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Dems better think about who they may want to consider, if they regain control.  That old bat is becoming more bizarre and unhinged every day.
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She is extremely old - had face uplifts to mask her age.  Her speech has qualities of dementia. I thought for sure they would replace her as their leader after this last election.  I am old, too, but I can still write and speak in complete sentences that make sense.  Her speech is disjointed, she searches for words, and her sentences don't make sense.  It is hard to listen to her as I did yesterday. 

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@edpc

She is extremely old - had face uplifts to mask her age.  Her speech has qualities of dementia. I thought for sure they would replace her as their leader after this last election.  I am old, too, but I can still write and speak in complete sentences that make sense.  Her speech is disjointed, she searches for words, and her sentences don't make sense.  It is hard to listen to her as I did yesterday.
They almost did--with an avowed Socialist.
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McSally has a point.  If Trump's approval is sitting at 39% on Election Day, the pubs are going to lose control, no matter what changes they make.  George W had similar numbers in 2006.

And you also make an excellent point. We can blame Ryan till were blue in the face, but he is not responsible for Trump's dismal popularity rating. That' on him.
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The assumption is that the Repubs don't WANT that to happen.  I think they're tickled sh!tless when they're not in control.   Being in control is hard work...they're expected to actually move the ball...as opposed to just pretending to obstruct the Dems while they're positioning for their next cocktail party invitation.

I loathe them.
The Republican Party loves to take advantage of the Democrats' screwups to get back into power. Yet, when they are in power, they cannot control their own message and have the manure scared out of them so much that they end up being unable and unwilling to fulfill the promises they made. Obamacare is a perfect example. Everyone hated it when Obama was president. Yet all of a sudden now that they're in power, they lost control of the message again, and now they can't decide what to do with the millstones around the health care system's proverbial neck that they're just letting everything stand as is.

Another example: consider how badly the GOP panicked when Ted Cruz made his stand in 2013. They were going to lose their opportunity to retake the Senate, they claimed. Yet 2014 turned out to be a GOP rout and arguably set the momentum toward the Dems' catastrophic loss in 2016.

There is a reason why the Republican primary came down to Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. Those two were the only ones who stayed on their core message and didn't back down to the Left. Now I'm not saying take the Trump playbook and just nasty-name anyone that dares stand in your way, but there's something to be said about having something to stand on, pressing the message day in and day out and seeing it through. Our legislature's leadership is not doing that right now, and this is exactly what I feared when they settled on a wonk like Paul Ryan as House speaker. It takes a brand of reckless courage to do what Trump has done, but no one (and that includes Trump) is pushing most of the key priorities of conservatism.
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