Indy Muslims call out creators of local billboard that insults Prophet Muhammad

[truth_seeker]

Percent of population that is muslim:

*Israel 17.7%
Georgia 10.5
Bulgaria 7.8
France 7.5
Austria 6.8
Belgium 5.9
Greece 5.3
Sweden 5.0
Switzerland 5.0
Liechtenstein 4.8
UK 4.8
Denmark 4.1
Spain 4.1
Italy 3.7
Slovenia 3.6
Norway 3.0
Luxembourg 2.3
Germany 2.0-5.7
*Canada 1.9-3.2
*China 1.8
Croatia 1.4
Ireland 1.3
*US 0.8
Finland 0.8
Portugal 0.6

*Argentina 2.5
*Australia 2.2
*New Zealand 0.9

*Non Europe

Per Wikipedia

[driftdiver]

Thank you.  I had not read that before.  Any links for more info?

@thackney

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/338/did-muhammad-author-quran/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/magazine/07wwln-essay-t.html
http://radicaltruth.net/index.php/learn/radical-truth-islam/137-who-wrote-the-quran
https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=354949

three sources in no particular order.    a simple google search finds a bunch of sources pro and con.

[thackney]

@thackney

https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/338/did-muhammad-author-quran/
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/07/magazine/07wwln-essay-t.html
http://radicaltruth.net/index.php/learn/radical-truth-islam/137-who-wrote-the-quran
https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=354949

three sources in no particular order.    a simple google search finds a bunch of sources pro and con.

Thanks I will try to learn more.  It appears quite a dispute view within the muslim community.

[driftdiver]

Not to take away from your points, but Mohammed did not write the Quran.  He spoke it for 23 years.  After his death, several of his companions compiled it into one document from what they had written down and remembered.

@thackney

Appreciate the way you put that.  I didn't want to introduce that concept into the response preferring at the time to go with the idea that Big mo wrote it.  Since thats a basic tenet of their faith I thought it better to avoid it at the time.

[Smokin Joe]

Well, Christianity certainly does.

Kindly quote the scripture which says you must convert to Christianity or die.

[Smokin Joe]

Got it.  Skeeter, you're the only one savvy enough to understand what I was getting at.   Christians are just as fanatical as Muslims in insisting their way or the highway, if you seek life after death.

Sorry, chum, you even got that incorrect.

Christianity says there will be life after death.
It just says that life will be far more pleasant for those who believe than those who do not.

As far as this life goes, there is no mandate whatsoever to go killing people who do not believe in Christ.
Islam is wired a little differently, there.

[Wingnut]

Sorry, chum, you even got that incorrect.

You bastard.  I'm choking on a peanut ...turning blue and I don't know how to self Heimlich ....

[Suppressed]

I believe portions of it were written down by others while Mohammed still lived.  It was compiled together into a single book after he died.

That was my understanding.  Thanks for clarifying..

[Smokin Joe]

You bastard.  I'm choking on a peanut ...turning blue and I don't know how to self Heimlich ....

If you can still read this, walk around to the back of a chair, fold your hands on the back of it, tuck them into your stomach and abruptly sag your weight onto the chair.

If that doesn't work you should be out cold by now and maybe having an out of body experience. Kick yourself in the ribs a few times, that should knock it loose.

[skeeter]

You bastard.  I'm choking on a peanut ...turning blue and I don't know how to self Heimlich ....

Climb up on your garage roof and belly flop onto your driveway. Works like a charm.

[BigU]

This is bigotry, pure and simple.   How would Christians react to a billboard slandering the Prince of Peace?

First of all, a false written statement is libel, not slander, which is spoken. Plus it's not libel or slander if what is written or spoken is true, such as in the case of this billboard.

[Cyber Liberty]

This is bigotry, pure and simple.   How would Christians react to a billboard slandering the Prince of Peace?

They probably don't react at all.



Next?

[txradioguy]

They probably don't react at all.



Next?

[Wingnut]

They probably don't react at all.



Next?

You are late to the Party.  Been in meetings?

[skeeter]

They probably don't react at all.



Next?

Someone should contact the good folks at Ask-A-Muslim.com to prove their assertion.

Namely how Jesus can be a Muslim when Muhammad dreamed up his death cult 600 years after Jesus completed his three year earthly ministry and, to my knowledge, hasn't said anything since to contradict a word of it.

[DB]

Can anyone here imagine someone trying to make the case that only the radical Nazis are the problem and that regular Nazis are just fine and should be welcomed into the county and not resisted?

I fail to see much difference.

[austingirl]

And.... the so-called "moderate, peaceful" Muslims don't exactly rise up and denounce each and every terrorist incident en masse.   Granted, they may be afraid to do so, but still.... how else can one take that refusal to denounce Islamic terrorism but as unspoken approval?

Been waiting since 9/11/2001 for the "peaceful moderate" muslims to turn in the jihadis among them. They haven't and they won't. Tacit complicity.

[Oceander]

Someone should contact the good folks at Ask-A-Muslim.com to prove their assertion.

Namely how Jesus can be a Muslim when Muhammad dreamed up his death cult 600 years after Jesus completed his three year earthly ministry and, to my knowledge, hasn't said anything since to contradict a word of it.

Probably because they accept Jesus as a prophet (just not the big cheese).

[skeeter]

Probably because they accept Jesus as a prophet (just not the big cheese).

In other words, Jesus is a muslim because muslims say so.

They sound like progressives.

[Oceander]

In other words, Jesus is a muslim because muslims say so.

They sound like progressives.

I'm not disagreeing.  I find the claim more than a little far-fetched.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm not disagreeing.  I find the claim more than a little far-fetched.

They claim Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus, Son of Mary) to be a prophet and messenger of God.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam  But not the Messiah.

[Oceander]

They claim Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus, Son of Mary) to be a prophet and messenger of God.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam  But not the Messiah.

Exactly. 

[txradioguy]

Someone should contact the good folks at Ask-A-Muslim.com to prove their assertion.

Namely how Jesus can be a Muslim when Muhammad dreamed up his death cult 600 years after Jesus completed his three year earthly ministry and, to my knowledge, hasn't said anything since to contradict a word of it.

When you visit Nazareth, the one thing that stands out is the Muslims with bull horns and pamphlets trying to sell people there on the ways of Islam.

Yup right there in the birthplace of Jesus.

And would you believe that not a single Muslim is harmed or threatened or beaten for what they are doing?

Now...imagine a group of Christians trying to do the same thing on a street corner in Gaza City.  Or Mecca.

[driftdiver]

Exactly.

They also claim it's ok to have sex with sheep and goats as long as you don't sell the meat in your village.  You have to sell it in another village.

I don't buy that either

[skeeter]

Exactly.

Its ironic - muslims vigorously defended Jesus during the 'Last Temptation of Christ' kerfuffle years back. I heard they consider Christ a prophet then and recall wondering why Christians never fought that energetically to defend their faith.

I'm sure one day soon we'll have no choice.