'Van hits pedestrians' on London Bridge in 'major incident'

[Right_in_Virginia]

What happened in Europe in the late '30s and early '40s that centered around Germany was attempted genocide, wrapped in a fascist economic mantle, and ultimately totalitarianism, but even more, the elimination of millions of those who would not bend their knee to the Party and the State, who would not submit. 

The genocide at the hands of Germany in the 30s and 40s had nothing to do with eliminating those who would not bend their knee to the Party and the State.  The genocide had everything to do with eliminating the Jew.  Period.  It did not matter if the knee was bent or not.

[Smokin Joe]

The genocide at the hands of Germany in the 30s and 40s had nothing to do with eliminating those who would not bend their knee to the Party and the State.  The genocide had everything to do with eliminating the Jew.  Period.  It did not matter if the knee was bent or not.

Tell that to the 5 million people who were not Jews who were murdered by the Nazis. Then go look up "genocide" and reread what I said.

[sneakypete]

"Gimme dat ole time religion,gimme dat ole time religion...

If it's good enough for Mohammed,it's good enough for me......!"

[sneakypete]

Well, their Muzzie mayor says, it's “part and parcel of living in a big city”.  And they elected the dope.

@dfwgator

Well,to be fair to the Mayor,there IS some question as to who were the dopes in that equation.

[sneakypete]

Will Katy Perry tweet for open borders again?

@dfwgator

Let's hope so. The sooner we bring this boil to a head,the better off we will be.

Then again,there are still some areas in America where 3 Muslims could jump out of a van with big knives to attack a crowd,and end up getting the knives stuck up their asses,and a lot of areas where you would hear "BANG! BANG! BANG! That one is still moving,Luther,shoot him again! This is the most damn fun I have had in ages!"

My name ain't Luther,but if someone starts waving a knife at me,it ain't going to end well for him.

The British are just too damn polite for their own good,but once they reach their breaking point and decide enough is enough,being a Muslim in England is going to be a scary thing to be.

[sneakypete]

I was reading at that liberal slanted middle east eye and they were saying "well, it didn't help to jail all of the suspected IRA terrorists back in the day". 

Uhhhh,99 percent of the Irish Terrorists were in Ireland,not England.

That does suggest a possible solution that will make the Irish happy,though. Deport Englands Muslims to Ireland. The Irish have to be getting bored about now,and when the Muslims piss them off it will be the beginning of the Muslim downfall.

[sneakypete]

They're getting closer to seeing their worst nightmare.

A backlash.

@DCPatriot

It was primarily the British that brought the Holy War back to Islam a couple of times,and it took the Muslims around 600 years to recover from the last time. They might not be that lucky this time. The last time all the Brits had were swords and bows. This time they have nukes.

[sneakypete]

How could they not be ready for something like this??

No excuse.

Are the police even armed at London Bridge?

@DCPatriot

Thanks to Islam,the London police now have armed squads in full tactical gear with full-auto battle rifles as well as handguns patrolling some areas (Muslim areas) of London. For hundreds of years the Bobbies were unarmed,but no longer.

[sneakypete]

It sounds like guns "could" be involved from what we are hearing, lots of gunfire.

@TomSea

It most likely came from the special squads of "quick reaction" armed and roaming Special Police. They patrol Muslim areas in armored vans,and also areas where big public events are being held. You don't hear much about them because the British are proud of their unarmed Bobbies,and want people to think they are all still unarmed.

And of course with London's new Muslim Mayor,the special police may lose their guns soon.

[sneakypete]

 

I do worry about places like NYC, Washington. D.C., and well, the whole state of California.

I don't. They bought the tickets to take that ride,and they now want us all to ride with them. People who aren't willing to defend themselves and their own families aren't worth worrying about.
 

[sneakypete]

Me and the missus just bought our family membership at the gun range on post today. Looks like we're gonna need it.

@txradioguy

Not really. Think "Triangle" with both hands on the gun extended in front of you so you are naturally looking down the barrel everywhere you look,and then think "Center Mass,don't quit shooting until the gun quits making loud noises."

Center Mass is a big target that is hard to miss at distances close enough a man with a knife is a threat to you.

[sneakypete]

Most anyone who has ever ridden a street bike (motorcycle) or even a bicycle, for starters.

@Oceander   @Smokin Joe

As well as anyone who has ever lived in a big city and tried crossing the street.

[sneakypete]

I won't lambaste you for your statement because you're one of the few who really understand what we're up against in a religious war.  This type of war is for the very survival on one side or the other, and cannot be fought in any traditional manner.  Religion blinds people to everything except their own ideology, and becomes the ultimate form of hate.  It short-circuits all logic and reason, and even neuters the basic instinct of self-preservation.  Religion is the greatest and most potent tool Satan ever devised.

To fight a religious war it's futile to attack individuals and armies.  The religion itself must be destroyed.  It's adherents must be either sincerely converted or they must be destroyed.  There is no other way in the long run.  No, it is not the activity of gentlemen, nor is it by Queensbury Rules nor on the playing fields of Eaton.  If this is "fascist", then so be it, but it must eventually come to that or our civilization will not survive.

@Gideon300

I agree with most of what you said,but strongly disagree about targeting individuals being a waste of time. Targeting individuals is precisely what we should be doing,starting with the Mullahs at the bottom,and the international bankers that finance the Jihadists at the top of the food chain.

Nobody EVER won a war by killing privates. You win wars by killing off the leadership and the financiers,so why not just start there and be done with it? Track those bastards down and pop them where you find them.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

Thanks to Islam,the London police now have armed squads in full tactical gear with full-auto battle rifles as well as handguns patrolling some areas (Muslim areas) of London. For hundreds of years the Bobbies were unarmed,but no longer.

[sneakypete]

The genocide at the hands of Germany in the 30s and 40s had nothing to do with eliminating those who would not bend their knee to the Party and the State.  The genocide had everything to do with eliminating the Jew.  Period.  It did not matter if the knee was bent or not.

@Right_in_Virginia

HorseHillary! There was a lower percentage of European Jews murdered by the Nazi's than there was Gypsies,and when it comes to total numbers,nobody tops the Slavs when it comes to Nazi bodycount.

The Nazi's were even "selling pardons and passports" to Jews in Nazi-occupied parts of Europe that were lucky enough to have rich relatives living in other areas. The Wealthy German Jews no longer existed because the Nazi's confiscated all their wealth and possessions for their own use.

AND....,it has to be said that the big reasons the Nazi's hated the Jews are because they were/are a clannish bunch that mostly stuck together and who helped each other to succeed. These are normally considered to be positive traits,but not in a police state system where the police state resents anyone not fully submissive who might want to rock the boat.

 Plus,the Jewish leadership had a LOT of money and property for the Nazi bigshots to steal for their own uses.

Greed and jealousy.

[txradioguy]

@Right_in_Virginia

HorseHillary! There was a lower percentage of European Jews murdered by the Nazi's than there was Gypsies,and when it comes to total numbers,nobody tops the Slavs when it comes to Nazi bodycount.

The Nazi's were even "selling pardons and passports" to Jews in Nazi-occupied parts of Europe that were lucky enough to have rich relatives living in other areas. The Wealthy German Jews no longer existed because the Nazi's confiscated all their wealth and possessions for their own use.

AND....,it has to be said that the big reasons the Nazi's hated the Jews are because they were/are a clannish bunch that mostly stuck together and who helped each other to succeed. These are normally considered to be positive traits,but not in a police state system where the police state resents anyone not fully submissive who might want to rock the boat.

 Plus,the Jewish leadership had a LOT of money and property for the Nazi bigshots to steal for their own uses.

Greed and jealousy.

Do you have a link to any kind of credible evidence to back up some of that BS you posted about Jews and buying pardons?

[Gefn]

@DCPatriot

Thanks to Islam,the London police now have armed squads in full tactical gear with full-auto battle rifles as well as handguns patrolling some areas (Muslim areas) of London. For hundreds of years the Bobbies were unarmed,but no longer.

I don't think all Bobbies are unarmed, all carry truncheons but as for guns, I think the ones who watch over the Royals and certain MPs and the PM have guns.

I think the ones in the Jewel Tower might also be armed.

[catfish1957]

@dfwgator



Then again,there are still some areas in America where 3 Muslims could jump out of a van with big knives to attack a crowd,and end up getting the knives stuck up their asses,and a lot of areas where you would hear "BANG! BANG! BANG! That one is still moving,Luther,shoot him again! This is the most damn fun I have had in ages!"

Parts here in SE Texas, if a muzzle jumps out his vehicle with a big knife yelling "This is for Allah", I'd venture he has less than a 50/50 chance of inflicting any damage, and probably >90% chance of quick meeting with Allah.

[sneakypete]

Do you have a link to any kind of credible evidence to back up some of that BS you posted about Jews and buying pardons?

@txradioguy

"The Last Ship" by William Brinkley  ISBN 0-670-80981-0
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[Suppressed]

Fascism is an economic model, actually, in which the State controls industries and output which remain in private hands.

With all due respect, economics is only one aspect of the political philosophy known as fascism. For example, economics alone don't encompass the fascist nationalism.

I specifically wrote "fascist-style" because I wasn't assuming actual fascism would be a part of the suggestion.

[dfwgator]

Parts here in SE Texas, if a muzzle jumps out his vehicle with a big knife yelling "This is for Allah", I'd venture he has less than a 50/50 chance of inflicting any damage, and probably >90% chance of quick meeting with Allah.

[Wingnut]

That is the second time Han shot 1st! 

lol

[dfwgator]

Fascism is an economic model, actually, in which the State controls industries and output which remain in private hands. It is midway between laissez faire capitalism where individual people own and control the means of production and the polar opposite, Communism, where the government owns and allocates all resources and means to produce.

What happened in Europe in the late '30s and early '40s that centered around Germany was attempted genocide, wrapped in a fascist economic mantle, and ultimately totalitarianism, but even more, the elimination of millions of those who would not bend their knee to the Party and the State, who would not submit.

In a war in which our enemies have sworn by their beliefs to convert us, kill us, or die, we have three options; convert, be killed, or assist them in the latter. I know which I would choose.

Mussolini's Fascism wasn't racist in nature, the problem is that Hitler basically co-opted all of the Fascist movements and forced them to adopt racial policies.   I question sometimes whether Germany was really "Fascist", although the Communists always referred to the Nazis as "Fascist" instead of as "National Socialists".    Obviously, Communists didn't want to admit that the Nazis were indeed fellow socialists.

[Gideon300]

Mussolini's Fascism wasn't racist in nature, the problem is that Hitler basically co-opted all of the Fascist movements and forced them to adopt racial policies.   I question sometimes whether Germany was really "Fascist", although the Communists always referred to the Nazis as "Fascist" instead of as "National Socialists".    Obviously, Communists didn't want to admit that the Nazis were indeed fellow socialists.

In our times the word "fascist" is rather undefinable.  It has come to mean any action or thinking that is opposed to the ultra-liberal view.  If you're conservative, you're fascist.  If you speak out as opposed to abortion, homosexuality, islam, and a zillion other liberal causes, you're fascist.  If you voted for Trump, you're fascist.  Most people who use that word don't know or care what it really means, it's just anyone or anything that doesn't agree with their views. 

The word "fascist" has become as hollow and meaningless as the word "racist".  I've come to despise both those words and most of the people who use them as epithets. 

[dfwgator]

In our times the word "fascist" is rather undefinable.  It has come to mean any action or thinking that is opposed to the ultra-liberal view.  If you're conservative, you're fascist.  If you speak out as opposed to abortion, homosexuality, islam, and a zillion other liberal causes, you're fascist.  If you voted for Trump, you're fascist.  Most people who use that word don't know or care what it really means, it's just anyone or anything that doesn't agree with their views. 

The word "fascist" has become as hollow and meaningless as the word "racist".  I've come to despise both those words and most of the people who use them as epithets.

Or as I always say, "The only thing worse than a Fascist, is an 'Anti-Fascist.'"