Liberals Are Shocked To Find We’re Starting To Hate Them Right Back

[Cyber Liberty]

Where the guns are"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/the-demographics-and-politics-of-gun-owning-households/
Americans with a gun at home also differ politically from other adults. Republicans are twice as likely as Democrats to be members of a gun-owning household. Political independents also are more likely than Democrats to have a firearm in their homes.

Party Identity in a Gun Cabinet
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/in-gun-ownership-statistics-partisan-divide-is-sharp/
In urban areas, 40 percent of Republican voters said they had a gun in their home, while 20 percent of Democrats did.

The differences are most apparent in suburban areas. There, 58 percent of Republican voters said there was a gun in their household, against just 27 percent of Democrats.

So, what do you think the numbers really are, once you get through the lying to the pollsters?  I, for one, would never tell a pollster what I have.

[Wingnut]

So, what do you think the numbers really are, once you get through the lying to the pollsters?  I, for one, would never tell a pollster what I have.

I think Conservatives would over exaggerate the number.  Liberals being what they are, would never own up to having a gun.  I'm guessing with that in mind we still have them outnumbered and outgunned by a good 30-35%

[Cripplecreek]

That's a good question.  I've known libs who talk a good game about snatching up all the firearms yet have a couple stashed around their houses.  Stats on ammo would also be helpful.

You're from Michigan, you know its foolish to assume liberals are unarmed. Too many mixed ideology families for all the liberals to be unarmed. The cousin we sold my mom's house to is a fully indoctrinated union man but he is most definitely armed. I took him out and showed him where the gun range is the other day. (Guess that makes me a collaborator) 

[mirraflake]

By the time CWII happens we will have robots for soldiers as well as Hi tech drones and pilotless planes and whatever stash of weapons you have will be next to worthless against the machines.  Some drone will send a hellfire missile through you bathroom window while you are all taking a crap.
The side who controls the machines will win...and it may be. Chinese or Russian force that takes over.

[Night Hides Not]

By the time CWII happens we will have robots for soldiers as well as Hi tech drones and pilotless planes and whatever stash of weapons you have will be next to worthless against the machines.  Some drone will send a hellfire missile through you bathroom window while you are all taking a crap.
The side who controls the machines will win...and it may be. Chinese or Russian force that takes over.

I'll be ready...I'm putting one of these in my back yard:



Might even get me a towed Vulcan, too:



I'm qualified on both systems, as I was a platoon leader for both systems way back when in Germany. Our mission was short-range, air base defense for 3 NATO air bases (Hahn, Bitburg, Spangdahlem). Each base had a composite battery of two platoons of each system, 4 squads per platoon. Also took an SP (self propelled) Vulcan platoon through REFORGER '77. The battalion was short handed, so they asked for volunteers. Great experience, except for the M60 that hit my jeep, crushing the radiator. lol

One problem, though...we won't have anymore room for the trampoline in the backyard...dammit!   

[truth_seeker]

By the time CWII happens we will have robots for soldiers as well as Hi tech drones and pilotless planes and whatever stash of weapons you have will be next to worthless against the machines.  Some drone will send a hellfire missile through you bathroom window while you are all taking a crap.
The side who controls the machines will win...and it may be. Chinese or Russian force that takes over.

Star Wars anti-missile exercise TODAY from Vandenberg.

http://mynewsla.com/government/2017/05/30/does-north-korea-want-to-kill-you-air-force-tests-anti-nuke-missile-launch-visible-from-la/

[driftdiver]

So, what do you think the numbers really are, once you get through the lying to the pollsters?  I, for one, would never tell a pollster what I have.

I don't have "a" gun in my house.    nope

[Doug Loss]

We will obey the lawful orders of our commanders and defend and uphold the Constitution.

Period. 

I've seen flag officers that were raging Liberals salute and execute orders given to them by Republican Presidents. And I've seen staunch Conservative officers do the same for hard left Presidents.

We don't serve...at any level...based on what particular optical party is waring the chair at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Your theory on who would do what is flawed.

My friend, you're talking about a situation where the chain of command is clear and where the orders were unequivocally lawful.  In a situation where either or both of those conditions don't apply, I still believe that there would be a fair amount of internal dissension.  And I say that as someone who served too.

[roamer_1]

Pointing out liberals' lies is one thing, and I'm glad conservatives are starting to do it, but using hate is simply devolving into liberal thought. That won't end well. Snowflakes use hate, conservatives use logic.

@goodwithagun
That could not be said any better!

 

[DB]

Large cities generally have higher IQ than small towns, large cities have the industrial and manufacturing base, transportation and food warehousing infrastructure, large police force, lot's of arms-police and local Armories and citizens,  and they have huge population numbers. People in the cities are in general  more fit and healthier than country folks. I could go on an on.

Small villages and cities would be overrun in days if not hours no matter how well armed they are because they just don't have the numbers.

@DiogenesLamp

I don't know what you base that on because it isn't in evidence. And essentially all food and energy is sourced outside cities whether or not they process some of it in the cities. Water is rarely sourced in the cities either. Those feeders into the cities are long and unprotected. Stopping those things from flowing into the cities isn't difficult and without those things the cities completely fall apart in days. Under any real wide scale crises the cities will be the first to have major problems/unrest. Huge resources will have to be used just to keep that under any sort of control within the cities.

[beandog]

I know mine is!!!  I blame my dog.   She converted him...lolol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VLqLLWxbQ

That was a very cute video but it's funny, I never thought of the dog as a liberal.  He always seemed to appreciate what I did for him.  He always met me at the door like he was really glad to see me and would kill himself before he went to the bathrom in the house.  He would do anything to make me like him and never get mad at him.  The cat, not so much.  He always acts like I should be glad to wait on him, never mets me at the door and could care less if I holler at him.  The dog would never have even thought about biting me, the cat things my hands are his personal possession to gnaw on when he feels like it.  The  thing is the cat I rescued from outside and certain death.  His previous owner had declawed him so he couldn't even feed himself.  He only weighed about 5 lbs and was 4 or 5 years old.  He now weights 10 lbs.  He seems to have forgotten all of that. ^-^

[DiogenesLamp]

Large cities generally have higher IQ than small towns, large cities have the industrial and manufacturing base, transportation and food warehousing infrastructure, large police force, lot's of arms-police and local Armories and citizens,  and they have huge population numbers. People in the cities are in general  more fit and healthier than country folks. I could go on an on.

Small villages and cities would be overrun in days if not hours no matter how well armed they are because they just don't have the numbers.

@DiogenesLamp

You can't fight the cities head to head.   What you can do is destroy their electricity,  their water and their food shipments.     


It's very hard to protect those things from small bands dedicated to destroying them.    Technology may eventually make it possible,   but I don't think it is currently. 



 

[Cyber Liberty]

You can't fight the cities head to head.   What you can do is destroy their electricity,  their water and their food shipments.     

"Siege" is still a viable military option.

[DiogenesLamp]

By the time CWII happens we will have robots for soldiers as well as Hi tech drones and pilotless planes and whatever stash of weapons you have will be next to worthless against the machines.  Some drone will send a hellfire missile through you bathroom window while you are all taking a crap.
The side who controls the machines will win...and it may be. Chinese or Russian force that takes over.

I've been saying that for a long time.   "Drone Swarms"   will wipe the battlefields clear of humans.   They can manufacture them by the millions,  they are cheap and lethal,  and human beings can't fight them.   


The "Terminators"  will not be ran by a super computer,  they will be ran by humans who control the supercomputers and they will be ran to manifest the will of their human masters. 


At this point it is looking like Silicon Valley Liberals. 

[DiogenesLamp]

I don't know what you base that on because it isn't in evidence. And essentially all food and energy is sourced outside cities whether or not they process some of it in the cities. Water is rarely sourced in the cities either. Those feeders into the cities are long and unprotected. Stopping those things from flowing into the cities isn't difficult and without those things the cities completely fall apart in days. Under any real wide scale crises the cities will be the first to have major problems/unrest. Huge resources will have to be used just to keep that under any sort of control within the cities.

Exactly my point.  Blow their supply lines and they will be dealing with riots.  However it turns out,  in the end you will have a lot fewer liberals to deal with.   Those that don't die from internal strife will grow up and become more conservative. 

[DiogenesLamp]

"Siege" is still a viable military option.

The Countryside can siege cities,  but the cities won't be able to find a concentrated target upon which to react.   They would have to kill indiscriminately,   and that would likely invite even further and worse reprisals by arousing even more of the populace and filling them with a terrible wrath. 

[Cyber Liberty]

The Countryside can siege cities,  but the cities won't be able to find a concentrated target upon which to react.   They would have to kill indiscriminately,   and that would likely invite even further and worse reprisals by arousing even more of the populace and filling them with a terrible wrath.

"Wolverines!"

[Cyber Liberty]

It was a training film.

[XenaLee]

That was a very cute video but it's funny, I never thought of the dog as a liberal.  He always seemed to appreciate what I did for him.  He always met me at the door like he was really glad to see me and would kill himself before he went to the bathrom in the house.  He would do anything to make me like him and never get mad at him.  The cat, not so much.  He always acts like I should be glad to wait on him, never mets me at the door and could care less if I holler at him.  The dog would never have even thought about biting me, the cat things my hands are his personal possession to gnaw on when he feels like it.  The  thing is the cat I rescued from outside and certain death.  His previous owner had declawed him so he couldn't even feed himself.  He only weighed about 5 lbs and was 4 or 5 years old.  He now weights 10 lbs.  He seems to have forgotten all of that. ^-^

You're crackin me up!   I'm sorry... but I guess misery (cat owner misery) truly does love company.   

[DB]

Exactly my point.  Blow their supply lines and they will be dealing with riots.  However it turns out,  in the end you will have a lot fewer liberals to deal with.   Those that don't die from internal strife will grow up and become more conservative.

I really don't think many city dwellers understand just how vulnerable their position is. They forget the essentials.

[Cyber Liberty]

I really don't think many city dwellers understand just how vulnerable their position is. They forget the essentials.

I wonder if the country dwellers consider how violent and willing to kill city dwellers are?

[DiogenesLamp]

It was a training film.

I've been telling my kids the same thing about zombie movies. 

[DB]

I wonder if the country dwellers consider how violent and willing to kill city dwellers are?

I don't think there is a lack of that. I do think the fuel in the cities will run out fast and their ability to exit the city very far will limit the damage they can do, at least in the short term. In addition many country dwellers have weapons and know how to use them. They also know the lay of the land and how to hunt and prep it.

[Wingnut]

I really don't think many city dwellers understand just how vulnerable their position is. They forget the essentials.

It ain't like Mosul or some other thrid world hellhole like Detriot having to do house to house combat.
 We don't need to go into the urban area's.  We just have to wait them out and pick them off as they try to leave.

[mirraflake]

I don't think there is a lack of that. I do think the fuel in the cities will run out fast and their ability to exit the city very far will limit the damage they can do, at least in the short term. In addition many country dwellers have weapons and know how to use them. They also know the lay of the land and how to hunt and prep it.

Both you @DB  and @DiogenesLamp  are giving way to much credit to country folks and thinking city people will die and roll over quickly just because they are liberal city folk and country folk are like Hank Williams JR songCountry boy can survive.

I live in  a semi rural area..  maybe 1-2% of the local populations grows their own food and I am being generous. How many people still hunt?

The entire country and most rural areas are on at least county water, not well water and their water would stop as soon as the grid goes down and the pumps stop.

Country people would wither up and die at rates as much as the city people when their meds stop flowing.
I mentioned before about IQ and fitness. My area has suffered a brain drain as all the educated people leave. The smarter people or at least people with the knowledge to make things happen -logistics, medical, etc have moved to larger urban areas.

Everyone in my semi rural area or at least a majority are obese and out of shape..not so much for larger population centers which tend to be fit and fitness centers and gyms on every corner.


I just don;t think it would happen as you both imagine it.

Most cars get 300-400 miles on a tankfull..easily driving distance to most country towns