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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2017, 11:58:22 pm »
Don't worry...you'll figure out that double jump one day.

You must have ducked.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2017, 12:48:28 am »
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why the US is involved in this mess at all.   :shrug:

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2017, 12:57:14 am »
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why the US is involved in this mess at all.   :shrug:

Israel is an ally. We have a history of playing referee between Israel and the countries around them that want to destroy them.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2017, 01:24:36 am »
Israel is an ally. We have a history of playing referee between Israel and the countries around them that want to destroy them.

I understand Israel is our ally @txradioguy  and our role to date.

But, during his visit to SA the President began building a coalition of Arab nations to fight ISIS and isolate Iran.  Our involvement in the Middle East now also includes our own geopolitical interests and goals.

I hope the President means "one and done" when it comes to negotiating a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians.  Give it a shot ... every administration has to at least try ... but I hope we don't get bogged down in it as have other US administrations.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2017, 01:27:51 am »
Pure theatre, or pure incompetence.

Must it be one or the other?

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2017, 01:36:44 am »
Must it be one or the other?

No.  Most likely it's a mixture of both.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2017, 01:44:10 am »
I understand Israel is our ally @txradioguy  and our role to date.

But, during his visit to SA the President began building a coalition of Arab nations to fight ISIS and isolate Iran.  Our involvement in the Middle East now also includes our own geopolitical interests and goals.

I hope the President means "one and done" when it comes to negotiating a peace treaty between Israel and the Palestinians.  Give it a shot ... every administration has to at least try ... but I hope we don't get bogged down in it as have other US administrations.

In all honesty his policy where Israel and the PA are concerned it should be none and done.

Nothing g good comes out of trying to negotiate any kind of peace treaty with the terrorists in Gaza.

They want one thing only and that is the destruction of Israel. Trump shouldn't do anything to help them towards that goal.

Anyone who thinks they can bring "peace in our time" in that part of the world needs only to study Chamberlain to see how well negotiating with a monster works out.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2017, 02:08:22 am »
Israel is an ally. We have a history of playing referee between Israel and the countries around them that want to destroy them.

Actually I think Ted Cruz gave the best answer on this during campaign season when he said that the only way to have a shot at lasting peace was to get everybody else away from the negotiations. His point being that the Palestinians had no incentive for peace because they know they have supporters of terrorism (and useful idiots) in their corner keeping the money rolling in and the pressure on Israel.

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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2017, 02:15:14 am »
Actually I think Ted Cruz gave the best answer on this during campaign season when he said that the only way to have a shot at lasting peace was to get everybody else away from the negotiations. His point being that the Palestinians had no incentive for peace because they know they have supporters of terrorism (and useful idiots) in their corner keeping the money rolling in and the pressure on Israel.

Yes he was spot on with that.
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2017, 01:54:21 pm »
If millions of dollars come your way for the explicit reason to constantly attack Israel why would you ever work towards peace. 

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2017, 02:31:13 pm »
If millions of dollars come your way for the explicit reason to constantly attack Israel why would you ever work towards peace.

Which means that Trump needs to cut off the money spigot to Iran via that horrible deal the GOP and Obama made with the Mad Mullahs.

That money is funding the terrorists in Gaza and elsewhere.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2017, 07:32:38 pm »
Which means that Trump needs to cut off the money spigot to Iran via that horrible deal the GOP and Obama made with the Mad Mullahs.

That money is funding the terrorists in Gaza and elsewhere.

Have you lost your wits again?

"That deal" was pure Obama.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2017, 09:01:57 pm »
Trump's doing the best to work out a solution; just because it has failed in the past, doesn't mean it will always fail. Bringing up Neo-Con ideas like Cruz's ideas are, are hardly going to fix the deal. He was for John Bolton for Secretary of State.

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« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2017, 09:17:44 pm »
Have you lost your wits again?

"That deal" was pure Obama.

You weren't paying attention. Bob Corker and a couple other Republican Senators crafted legislation to allow it to happen without the Senate vomiting on it as a treaty. Which they should have.

Brush up on the facts before you accuse others of not knowing what they are talking about.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2017, 09:19:32 pm »
Trump's doing the best to work out a solution; just because it has failed in the past, doesn't mean it will always fail. Bringing up Neo-Con ideas like Cruz's ideas are, are hardly going to fix the deal. He was for John Bolton for Secretary of State.

Any kind of idiotic belief that a two state solution would work is foolish. Anyone pushing that kind of idiotic assisted suicide for Israel truly doesn't understand or care why the outcome would actually be.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2017, 09:59:52 pm »
Any kind of idiotic belief that a two state solution would work is foolish. Anyone pushing that kind of idiotic assisted suicide for Israel truly doesn't understand or care why the outcome would actually be.

Too bad, the Cruz-ers abandoned the most innocent, the unborn. They side with King Herod, now who knows what to make of their statements.

Egypt and Israel were suppose to never get along together either.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2017, 10:02:39 pm »
Any kind of idiotic belief that a two state solution would work is foolish. Anyone pushing that kind of idiotic assisted suicide for Israel truly doesn't understand or care why the outcome would actually be.

Not to mention, it is written.
There will be no peace till Shiloh come.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2017, 10:03:27 pm »
Maybe do something brilliant like Texas Neo-Con George Bush, invade a country and note the following persecution of Christians and do nothing about it.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2017, 10:05:37 pm »
Not to mention, it is written.
There will be no peace till Shiloh come.

Bible says thou shalt not kill, doesn't stop some so-called pro-life conservatives.

Israel, the abortion haven? Yeah, that's God's chosen people I'm sure.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #44 on: May 29, 2017, 10:15:25 pm »
I didn't vote for someone to run the White House based on end-times prophecies.

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2017, 10:35:38 pm »
Bible says thou shalt not kill

One can always tell when someone lacks a basic understanding of the Bible when they quote this. In most every other version/translation of the Bible they have it correctly stated it as "Thou shall not Murder"... It is unfortunate then KJV  got this wrong...

Below is the versions side by side for reference....


http://biblehub.com/exodus/20-13.htm

How is it feasible that no killing is allowed, yet just a few verses below that commandment it lists reasons to put people to death?




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Exodus 18:21 Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain; and you shall place these over them as leaders over ....

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« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2017, 10:40:10 pm »
Quote from: tomsea

Israel, the abortion haven? Yeah, that's God's chosen people I'm sure.

When God chooses, he has a reason that is beyond our wisdom. It is not for us to second guess God.

I am sure in Israel just like the US, there is still those that don't like abortion at all and understand it for what it is. Murder.
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Exodus 18:21 Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain; and you shall place these over them as leaders over ....

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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2017, 10:58:57 pm »
When God chooses, he has a reason that is beyond our wisdom. It is not for us to second guess God.

I am sure in Israel just like the US, there is still those that don't like abortion at all and understand it for what it is. Murder.

And the Israel of the Bible is not necessarily the Israeli Nation of today. So, that's not second guessing anyone.

Moses brought the 12 tribes back to Canaan in 1445 BC.

536 BC, the Tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi returned to Israel.

There was never a foretold 3rd return to Israel.

Now, go ahead and tell me others don't understand the Bible.
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Re: Trump furious with Abbas: You lied to me
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2017, 11:00:02 pm »
One can always tell when someone lacks a basic understanding of the Bible when they quote this. In most every other version/translation of the Bible they have it correctly stated it as "Thou shall not Murder"... It is unfortunate then KJV  got this wrong...

Below is the versions side by side for reference....


http://biblehub.com/exodus/20-13.htm

How is it feasible that no killing is allowed, yet just a few verses below that commandment it lists reasons to put people to death?

Nitpick and insult if you wish, as I said, the Never Trumpers have little else except that and bullying.

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« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2017, 11:14:12 pm »
My savior founded a Church not a book.

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.

Leave it to the NTs to not only turn away from the pro-life side but now, go against scripture per one trying to make peace.   *****rollingeyes*****