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I see your argument;  That you have friends and neighbors who are Muslim,  and that you don't want to believe anything which interferes with this relationship. 


You have adopted these people into your "Tribe",   and you will brook no disrespect for them. 


Like I said,  "Tribalism"  is inherent in human nature.

Good point, @DiogenesLamp

I guess I did the same thing back in the 2nd Clinton term. 

Took a special affection for the illegal immigrant.  Interacted in business, and they became friends, and I've watched their kids grow up and get married themselves.

Of course, my attitudes changed with the advent of Obama.
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Good point, @DiogenesLamp

I guess I did the same thing back in the 2nd Clinton term. 

Took a special affection for the illegal immigrant.  Interacted in business, and they became friends, and I've watched their kids grow up and get married themselves.

Of course, my attitudes changed with the advent of Obama.

Give people an inch and they'll take a mile.  Obama is what a mile of bad road looks like.
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Give people an inch and they'll take a mile.  Obama is what a mile of bad road looks like.

And their 'estimate' of Eleven Million was 'only probably about 12-15 Million back in 1998

Today, there's got to be 35 Million east of the Rockies.
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And their 'estimate' of Eleven Million was 'only probably about 12-15 Million back in 1998

Today, there's got to be 35 Million east of the Rockies.

Last estimate I saw said that if you include the ones that came here legally and overstayed their Visa...its in the neighborhood of 47 million.
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Last estimate I saw said that if you include the ones that came here legally and overstayed their Visa...its in the neighborhood of 47 million.

Enough to make up better than 50 congressional districts.

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And their 'estimate' of Eleven Million was 'only probably about 12-15 Million back in 1998

Today, there's got to be 35 Million east of the Rockies.

Pretty much the American version of this:



WITHOUT the religious mandates for rape and beheadings.
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Last estimate I saw said that if you include the ones that came here legally and overstayed their Visa...its in the neighborhood of 47 million.
That outnumbers the population of most of the heartland.
It is likely a more accurate number, considering that 11 million number has been thrown about for eons. You know these people are making babies, and more have come in in the past few decades.
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Good point, @DiogenesLamp



You appear to be the first person who seems to have grasped the point,  and I thought it was a particularly good one too!    :) 



I guess I did the same thing back in the 2nd Clinton term. 


Took a special affection for the illegal immigrant.  Interacted in business, and they became friends, and I've watched their kids grow up and get married themselves.

Of course, my attitudes changed with the advent of Obama.


Years ago I read a comment to the effect that "Most of us care more that our dog is sick than that a thousand people on the other side of the world have been killed in an avalanche. "   


"Tribe"  and "empathy"   are both relative and proximate.    We people follow our nature more than we adhere to abstract theories,   even if the theories are consistent and sensible. 


People who are near you and with whom  you are friends are your "Tribe."   An older way of putting it is "Kith and Kin." 

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Pretty much the American version of this:



WITHOUT the religious mandates for rape and beheadings.



David P.  Goldman opines that we should be killing those people till we've wiped out about 3 million of them. 


He puts forth a pretty good argument for it. 


https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2014/8/12/shermans-300000-and-the-caliphates-3-million/
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my loyalty is to the Constitution's lodestars of individual liberty and self-determination,  .  .  .

Except of course when it comes to marriage and abortion, in which case you vehemently oppose the Constitution in denying the people the right to self-determined governance.
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