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It wouldn't surprise me if they also shut down cell service in the area. Phones can be used as remote detonators.
If not, the system may well be overloaded anyway. Likely, though you are right. That would be a first precaution against follow on attacks.
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@jmyrlefuller It doesn't matter what her attitudes. Kids don't pay as much attention to that as they do the music or just the event itself. What does matter is that no one should have to worry about their kid getting blown up at a concert.
I totally agree, which is why the backlash against her astounds me so much.
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The carnage from the Boston Marathon bombing pretty much disabused people of that notion.
@240B @Cyber Liberty Yep, these are far closer to war wounds than the average "injury" civilians are used to.
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I totally agree, which is why the backlash against her astounds me so much.
If this doesn't mess with her head, she doesn't have one. They came there to see her...
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If this doesn't mess with her head, she doesn't have one. They came there to see her...

I looked her up.  She's just a kid, a pop-tart. 
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If this doesn't mess with her head, she doesn't have one. They came there to see her...

CNN just reported she is ok. I bet she's pretty shaken.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/entertainment/ariana-grande-manchester/

Apparently she's got a big upcoming concert in London in a couple of days.
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I totally agree, which is why the backlash against her astounds me so much.

Backlash seems a little strong. Pointing out her politics and anti-American statements is fair game. I had never even heard of her.
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CNN just reported she is ok. I bet she's pretty shaken.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/entertainment/ariana-grande-manchester/

Apparently she's got a big upcoming concert in London in a couple of days.
I would think so. That's got to rattle her, bigtime.
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The French Open just started and then Wimbledon follows by a few weeks. Lots of people from all over the world in a small space...

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The French Open just started and then Wimbledon follows by a few weeks. Lots of people from all over the world in a small space...

More soft targets for the gutless cowardly islamists.
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The French Open just started and then Wimbledon follows by a few weeks. Lots of people from all over the world in a small space...

Including members of the royal family.
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Re: Breaking - Police respond to Manchester Arena blast reports
« Reply #191 on: May 23, 2017, 02:54:53 am »
Yep. People stampede too. Sometimes the panic kills more than the thing they are fleeing.

Video of the stampede...

https://twitter.com/cadelgadorivas/status/866820366018256896
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Body count may rise, more injured as well. The initial injuries from the nail bomb as well as those injured in the stampede.
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I learned in Israel, when this kind of thing was happening every day, that the term 'injured' does not mean what most people think it means. Some of those people will be missing limbs and internal organs. Others will have sever brain injuries. The only reason I bring this up is because most people focus on the number of people killed without realizing that some of those who are labeled 'injured', may as well be dead themselves even if they survive.


Sorry to be depressing. That is not my intent. I just wanted to provide perspective from my own experiences.

A good point to bring up.

The situation is already depressing.  It's important that we understand it in full.

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Re: Breaking - Police respond to Manchester Arena blast reports
« Reply #194 on: May 23, 2017, 03:00:50 am »
These freak shows can attack me, even personally and always get away with it. They know it too. Meanwhile I get suspended/banned for making general statements about Trump cult members as a group. That is how this site rolls, I guess.

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Re: Breaking - Police respond to Manchester Arena blast reports
« Reply #195 on: May 23, 2017, 03:02:01 am »
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Pictures of the victims we know of so far. Just a bunch of kids having fun.



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What is the source of that photo, and how do they know who the victims are already?

Doesn't it usually take much longer than this to ID them?
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I learned in Israel, when this kind of thing was happening every day, that the term 'injured' does not mean what most people think it means. Some of those people will be missing limbs and internal organs. Others will have sever brain injuries. The only reason I bring this up is because most people focus on the number of people killed without realizing that some of those who are labeled 'injured', may as well be dead themselves even if they survive.

I think a lot of people who are missing limbs (like my brother in law) would disagree that they "may as well be dead".

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Re: Breaking - Police respond to Manchester Arena blast reports
« Reply #198 on: May 23, 2017, 03:12:28 am »
*bleep* like those who attack me don't deserve to be here.

So did you get the quote?

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Would you drop it on this thread, please!?!  This is neither the place nor the time.