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Offline XenaLee

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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2017, 11:31:30 pm »
Quote from: geronl on May 19, 2017, 11:10:48 pm
It is only happening to this extent because Trump never fails to react to the media in a way that makes it worse and keeps the stories going for another day.

Bullshit.  It happened to George W. Bush as well... and he never EVER reacted to the leftist media.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2017, 11:38:02 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 19, 2017, 11:31:30 pm
Bullshit.  It happened to George W. Bush as well... and he never EVER reacted to the leftist media.
Not reacting to lies and reacting stupidly to them will, and do produce bad results. 
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2017, 11:39:37 pm »
Quote from: DiogenesLamp on May 19, 2017, 01:05:57 pm


Just stop it!    In Nazi Germany they manufactured all sorts of fake stories about Jews.   Do not think that because propaganda is fabricated that it cannot do real and serious harm towards whomever it is aimed. 


The ability to launch a constant stream of lies at a President is in fact a very serious and dangerous power.   They destroyed Nixon with it,   They destroyed George HW Bush with it,   they destroyed John McCain and Mitt Romney with it.   


If you think the lying media is harmless,  you are a fool.   They are deadly.

He knows exactly what is going on (ie he's not a fool).  Do the math/reality.  It's much, much worse...IOW.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2017, 11:46:24 pm »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on May 19, 2017, 11:38:02 pm
Not reacting to lies and reacting stupidly to them will, and do produce bad results.

Not reacting to them at all also produces bad results.  Most folks never even find out or know about the media's ongoing agenda and campaign to overturn the election results of 2016 unless it is pointed out or sensationalized due to Trump's "reactions". 
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2017, 11:51:27 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 19, 2017, 11:46:24 pm
Not reacting to them at all also produces bad results.  Most folks never even find out or know about the media's ongoing agenda and campaign to overturn the election results of 2016 unless it is pointed out or sensationalized due to Trump's "reactions".
Our President would do well to understand that what the Left is doing really has nothing to do with him. His mistake is to assume that it's personal.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2017, 01:21:52 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 19, 2017, 11:46:24 pm
Not reacting to them at all also produces bad results.  Most folks never even find out or know about the media's ongoing agenda and campaign to overturn the election results of 2016 unless it is pointed out or sensationalized due to Trump's "reactions".

Amen.  Look what they did to Bush.

I read an article today that McCabe had a meeting with the higher ups in the FBI.  He said, "First we f*** Flynn.  Then we f*** Trump."  Comey wasn't there, but knew the meeting was going to take place and approved.  Most of the higher ups cheered, but some disapproved because they didn't think it was their job to destroy a presidency.  The reason I didn't post it was because the source was an anonymous agent that was in the meeting, but the article came out two or three days before Comey's firing.  It was probably fake news, but if it is true, the new Director will need to do a deep cleaning of the the FBI.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2017, 01:45:02 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on May 19, 2017, 11:51:27 pm
Our President would do well to understand that what the Left is doing really has nothing to do with him. His mistake is to assume that it's personal.

Actually, it has everything to do with him.  He is the President of this country; if he fails, so fails this country, which is exactly what is taking place.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2017, 01:59:17 am »
Quote from: DiogenesLamp on May 19, 2017, 01:05:57 pm
The ability to launch a constant stream of lies at a President is in fact a very serious and dangerous power.   They destroyed Nixon with it,   They destroyed George HW Bush with it,   they destroyed John McCain and Mitt Romney with it. 

Nixon destroyed himself by ordering the Watergate break-ins when he didn't have to.
Bush destroyed himself by reneging on his promise not to raise taxes.
McCain destroyed himself by refusing to campaign against Obama.  (If it weren't for the press, McCain never would have been the candidate).
Romney destroyed himself by not defending his remarkable record at Bain, and by forfeiting the one winning issue - Obamacare.

The press is not all-powerful.  They are the enemy of the GOP no matter what.  So kissing their ass and crediting them with bringing down Trump is a strategy for losers.

This is a time to stand on principle.  It is the ONLY winning strategy against lies and slander.  Too bad Trump has no principle to stand on.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2017, 02:08:01 am »
Quote from: libertybele on May 20, 2017, 01:45:02 am
Actually, it has everything to do with him.  He is the President of this country; if he fails, so fails this country, which is exactly what is taking place.

lol. Confusing one man and a whole country is ridiculous
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2017, 02:14:26 am »
Quote from: libertybele on May 20, 2017, 01:45:02 am
Actually, it has everything to do with him.  He is the President of this country; if he fails, so fails this country, which is exactly what is taking place.

I disagree. The nation, thank God, is stronger than one person.
While Trump should speak out about some of the stories, some he should not,and he does bring things up that would go away. Remember MIss  Venezuela?
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2017, 02:15:20 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 20, 2017, 01:59:17 am
Nixon destroyed himself by ordering the Watergate break-ins when he didn't have to.
Bush destroyed himself by reneging on his promise not to raise taxes.
McCain destroyed himself by refusing to campaign against Obama.  (If it weren't for the press, McCain never would have been the candidate).
Romney destroyed himself by not defending his remarkable record at Bain, and by forfeiting the one winning issue - Obamacare.

The press is not all-powerful.  They are the enemy of the GOP no matter what.  So kissing their ass and crediting them with bringing down Trump is a strategy for losers.

This is a time to stand on principle.  It is the ONLY winning strategy against lies and slander.  Too bad Trump has no principle to stand on.

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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2017, 02:18:55 am »
Trump's the best in principle, while so called Christian voters abandoned the unborn for their do-nothing favorites, Trump took away $9 billion dollars from Planned Parenthood International. The DUers and the NTers can moan about it all they want but that's the truth.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2017, 02:21:55 am »
Quote from: TomSea on May 20, 2017, 02:18:55 am
Trump's the best in principle, while so called Christian voters abandoned the unborn for their do-nothing favorites, Trump took away $9 billion dollars from Planned Parenthood International. The DUers and the NTers can moan about it all they want but that's the truth.

/snicker

yeah, whatever.  you just keep telling yourself little white lies.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2017, 02:36:02 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on May 20, 2017, 01:59:17 am
This is a time to stand on principle.  It is the ONLY winning strategy against lies and slander.  Too bad Trump has no principle to stand on.

In a nutshell.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2017, 03:16:04 am »
In this open war against Trump, he is his own worse enemy by handing the media a new gem each and evey day. The latest, "Comey is a nut job."
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2017, 03:19:36 am »
Quote from: NavyCanDo on May 20, 2017, 03:16:04 am
In this open war against Trump, he is his own worse enemy by handing the media a new gem each and evey day. The latest, "Comey is a nut job."

Once again, Trump cannot let it go.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2017, 03:23:49 am »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on May 19, 2017, 11:51:27 pm
Our President would do well to understand that what the Left is doing really has nothing to do with him. His mistake is to assume that it's personal.

True, it's not personal.  The radical left would be doing this same routine to any Republican president that had defeated their hive queen. 
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2017, 03:28:28 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on May 20, 2017, 03:23:49 am
True, it's not personal.  The radical left would be doing this same routine to any Republican president that had defeated their hive queen.
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Correct. If he didn't take it personal, he would not find the need to respond to every little charge.
Respond to the big ones, the serious ones?
Fine
Respond to the small ones, cheap shots, or the ridiculous ones?
Nah, let those go.
 
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2017, 03:32:32 am »
Trump's reactions to everyone "at war" with him in the media and in the Oligarchy establishment/Deep State ought to frighten the living crap out of every one of you.

Because if he and his people and his supporters are acting in abject hysterics like this over domestic criticism and subterfuge - I shudder to consider what it will be like when the Norks, Johnny Jihad, Iran and/or China decide to unleash the dogs of real war.

Because crying about how unfair it all is on Twitter and at graduation ceremonies is beyond pathetic for a head of state IMO.

I would expect such a thing from an Obama, it's pretty disconcerting to watch and his people outdo His Heinous.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2017, 05:08:48 am »
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2017, 06:27:22 am »
@DiogenesLamp

Do you mind taking those media/politics graphics and putting them in a fresh thread in the From our Members section?

Those are things that should be standalone and easily referenced by all, rather than hidden in a thread that will eventually be archived.

I'd do it, but I'm a rather firm believer in people getting the credit for their posts!  :beer:
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2017, 10:41:39 am »
Quote from: DiogenesLamp on May 19, 2017, 01:33:27 pm


Again,  Stop it!   In modern America,   the "Media"  *IS*  the government.   Have you never seen a diagram of how closely interbred the media is with Democrat Party office holders?   

What party holds the Presidency, the US Senate majority and the US House majority...oh and the majority of Governors, state legislatures and legislators?
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2017, 10:52:50 am »
Quote from: Oceander on May 20, 2017, 02:21:55 am
/snicker

yeah, whatever.  you just keep telling yourself little white lies.

It looks like Trump already did this
http://www.lifenews.com/2017/01/23/president-donald-trump-signs-executive-order-to-defund-international-planned-parenthood/
Do you know something I don't?
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2017, 12:07:19 am »
Quote from: TomSea on May 20, 2017, 02:18:55 am
Trump's the best in principle, while so called Christian voters abandoned the unborn for their do-nothing favorites, Trump took away $9 billion dollars from Planned Parenthood International. The DUers and the NTers can moan about it all they want but that's the truth.

In other words, Trump enacted the same policy that Bush had in place for eight years.
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Re: Open War On The President
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2017, 06:43:40 am »
Notice the number of people posting here who are making the claim that Trump has brought on this media war himself.  Had Ted Cruz won the election would the press be cutting him some slack?  How about a big government type like Jeb Bush?

It wouldn't have made one iota of difference to an ultra radical press who routinely concocts stories out of thin air and promotes them as news.  There are no boundaries they refuse to cross in the name of journalistic integrity.  If you can find one let me know, I see no evidence any such boundary exists.

The press attacks innocent women and children.  Yet they make excuses for barbaric actions, terrorist bombings, rioting in the streets, assassinations of police, and rape.  They have no moral underpinnings whatsoever and new examples proving my statements appear each and every day.  These are not bloggers sitting in their mother's basement in their underwear, these are major news organizations.

So go ahead and blame this full out frontal attack on Trump himself if it helps you sleep at night.  The press' war on the American way of life has been happening long before Trump even hinted at running for president.  If you missed it that's a you problem.
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