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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #100 on: May 20, 2017, 05:08:56 am »
Really? I recall a certain poster saying that anyone who opposed Trump was an enemy worse than the Soviets who must be destroyed..

Really? I don't remember anything like that and I have been here all along since 2009.

Can you give the cite?
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #101 on: May 20, 2017, 05:13:53 am »

Dear Trump Cult Members,
The "we told you so" people do not have the power or the inclination to make Trump a failed President, only he has that power. When the GOP convention told people like me "There's the door!", we took it seriously - stop blaming us, we were told to leave by Trump and his minions. When your godless fruitcake weaved horrible lies and repeated them (Cruz cheated, Cruz is ineligible, his daddy killed JFK, he;s a Canadian! Look at her Face! Crazy like a child molester! etc etc) until his monkeys believed it, don't blame us for thinking the person making these lies is a liar who shouldn't be trusted.

You were proud that Trump was no conservative, he was a populist! Conservatives were losers! You were proud to be despicable and call yourselves deplorables, remember? Now you want to pretend it was the other way around?

Many wanted to start over with the new administration but the attacks from the Trump Side continued, "Agree with master on all things or you are a traitor and a Democrat!". Do you really think that's how to get people on your side? By attacking them and sliming them and making up new epithets by the hour?

Those bridges were burned, Your side burned them. You didn't want our vote and you still don't want to reach out except to continue attacking us. We'd have to be insane to join you in the cult.

Let the commies and NAZI's fight it out, I'll just buy popcorn, pox on all their houses.

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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #103 on: May 20, 2017, 12:46:07 pm »
Bridges were burned by the NeverTrumpers. And bridges are still being burned by NeverTrumpers. So let me ask you. Do you want a war with Russia? Cause without Trump that is what you will get. Do you like open borders and no enforcement of our immigration laws? Cause without Trump that is what you will get. I could go on. We Trumpsters like Trump BECAUSE OF HIS POLICIES!
You sound like Neville Chamberlain. "We have to appease the Nazis because we can't afford another world war!"

Cruz is not a natural born citizen under original intent. Sorry that is just the way it is.
Original intent? I addressed this years ago. Natural-born citizenship under original intent was meaningless. The Marquis de Lafayette, born in France, had the title of Natural Born Citizen handed to him by the state of Virginia three years before the U.S. Constitution was ratified. Under the contemporary definition (a meaningless phrase that can be bestowed on anyone) no one is barred from being a natural born citizen.
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« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2017, 01:25:39 pm »
You sound like Neville Chamberlain. "We have to appease the Nazis because we can't afford another world war!"

Its amazing to me how desperately they scream that we better appease Putin or there will be a war. The simple fact is that Putin has already reignited the cold war and Trump and friends immediately surrendered.

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Original intent? I addressed this years ago. Natural-born citizenship under original intent was meaningless. The Marquis de Lafayette, born in France, had the title of Natural Born Citizen handed to him by the state of Virginia three years before the U.S. Constitution was ratified. Under the contemporary definition (a meaningless phrase that can be bestowed on anyone) no one is barred from being a natural born citizen.

Interesting guy. Teenage French nobility and a hero of the American revolution. You should also read about John Armistead Lafayette. JAL was a slave/spy for The Marquis inside the camp of Benedict Arnold.

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« Reply #105 on: May 20, 2017, 04:30:14 pm »
You are correct.

Anyone who has watched the "news" lately on the major networks or read the screaming headlines issuing forth daily from the NYT-WaPo Axis knows or ought to know that something both coordinated and unprecedented is happening.

And it ought to scare the hell out of you, because our culture is increasingly made of brittle and dry tinder, just waiting for a match.

I am no big fan of Donald Trump, as anyone here knows. The right reasons, the right time... but the wrong guy. His character and experience, or rather the lack of both have made him the perfect target for a Perfect Storm of Progressive bureaucrats, media mongers, institutionally-funded social justice warriors and congressional staffers, who are all working together to reverse the result of the 2016 election and stop the Republican agenda cold in its tracks.

And that, I am certain, is just for starters.   


Well said. I don't think Trump realized just how hard the swamp would resist being drained. There is a massive entrenched cabal in DC that will fight to continue their corruption of the Constitution.

Just now saw Rex Tillerson asked a question in his Riyadh presser about who the "person of interest" is in the WH probe. He said he had no information. Disgusting to watch the media do this sort of thing overseas.
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« Reply #106 on: May 20, 2017, 04:40:28 pm »

Well said. I don't think Trump realized just how hard the swamp would resist being drained. There is a massive entrenched cabal in DC that will fight to continue their corruption of the Constitution.

Just now saw Rex Tillerson asked a question in his Riyadh presser about who the "person of interest" is in the WH probe. He said he had no information. Disgusting to watch the media do this sort of thing overseas.

Very true.  I did not realize it myself. 

Trump had huge problems to overcome ... made more difficult by his lack of political experience and his enemies on both sides of the aisle.

I think he has fought the good fight for the most part.  And I underestimated the desperation and venom of the evil forces and the press.

I hope he can ride it out and achieve some of his goals.
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« Reply #107 on: May 20, 2017, 04:44:28 pm »

Well said. I don't think Trump realized just how hard the swamp would resist being drained. There is a massive entrenched cabal in DC that will fight to continue their corruption of the Constitution.

Just now saw Rex Tillerson asked a question in his Riyadh presser about who the "person of interest" is in the WH probe. He said he had no information. Disgusting to watch the media do this sort of thing overseas.


Yes, the horrors of the Press asking 'questions'.. Oh the humanity...
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« Reply #108 on: May 20, 2017, 04:44:51 pm »
Very true.  I did not realize it myself. 

Trump had huge problems to overcome ... made more difficult by his lack of political experience and his enemies on both sides of the aisle.

I think he has fought the good fight for the most part.  And I underestimated the desperation and venom of the evil forces and the press.

I hope he can ride it out and achieve some of his goals.

I hope so, too. It is sickening to think that an outsider cannot succeed in government and that only a politician can.
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« Reply #109 on: May 20, 2017, 04:49:30 pm »
Demanding a government champion (on either side) in this battle is like rooting for the wrassler you like on the WWE to beat the other guy for you... the point is completely missed that they are all characters.
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« Reply #110 on: May 20, 2017, 05:14:51 pm »

Yes, the horrors of the Press asking 'questions'.. Oh the humanity...

Interesting that you don't think the venue overseas and the fact that the Secretary of State is not the person to ask about the WH probe is out of line. :shrug:
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« Reply #111 on: May 20, 2017, 05:21:10 pm »
Interesting that you don't think the venue overseas and the fact that the Secretary of State is not the person to ask about the WH probe is out of line. :shrug:


Nope... That is what you get with a FREE PRESS...
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« Reply #112 on: May 20, 2017, 05:25:30 pm »

Nope... That is what you get with a FREE PRESS...

Free press or an arm of the Progressives in a coordinated non-stop attack? What is the point of asking the SOS that question on foreign soil? Pure grandstanding.
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« Reply #113 on: May 20, 2017, 05:32:31 pm »
Free press or an arm of the Progressives in a coordinated non-stop attack? What is the point of asking the SOS that question on foreign soil? Pure grandstanding.


Tough sh*t!!!!
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« Reply #114 on: May 20, 2017, 05:34:44 pm »

Well said. I don't think Trump realized just how hard the swamp would resist being drained. There is a massive entrenched cabal in DC that will fight to continue their corruption of the Constitution.

Trump figured out that the Presidency is hard after winning.  Better late than never I suppose.

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« Reply #115 on: May 20, 2017, 05:34:54 pm »

Tough sh*t!!!!

Rude and uncalled for. **nononono*
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #116 on: May 20, 2017, 05:41:46 pm »
Trump figured out that the Presidency is hard after winning.  Better late than never I suppose.
You forget that even before he had the nomination clinched, he asserted he "could make deals" with the GOPe. Well, that may be proving more difficult than he thought. Hubris is a mean mother...
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #117 on: May 20, 2017, 05:46:50 pm »
Free press or an arm of the Progressives in a coordinated non-stop attack? What is the point of asking the SOS that question on foreign soil? Pure grandstanding.

Trump threw gasoline on his war with the press and exacerbated the atmosphere he now finds himself afire in.

I do not have any sympathy.

The modern press have always been disgusting vultures with no sense of diplomacy or decorum.  It just got worse when the Democrat Party knighted them as kingmakers.
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #118 on: May 20, 2017, 05:49:10 pm »

Dear Trump Cult Members,
It really is a great post.  Yuge and bigly.

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« Reply #119 on: May 20, 2017, 05:59:04 pm »
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Here!  Here!

Post of the morning!

You, @geronl @bolobaby  et al.

Wow.  Still sulling and so proud as you retire from the fray because of past hurts and hates.

What about the country? 

I was a Trump hater also, but I gave it up when there was no longer any profit or value in it and when I saw the left was using you to try to get rid of a duly elected president.

Whether his voters wore rose-colored glasses or whatever, they wanted our country back from the Obama/Clinton era.  And I agree with that.

You all can buy popcorn and sit back and diss the rest of us but you won't be laughing when the country turns socialist.
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« Reply #120 on: May 20, 2017, 06:10:55 pm »
You, @geronl @bolobaby  et al.

Wow.  Still sulling and so proud as you retire from the fray because of past hurts and hates.

What about the country? 

I was a Trump hater also, but I gave it up when there was no longer any profit or value in it and when I saw the left was using you to try to get rid of a duly elected president.

Whether his voters wore rose-colored glasses or whatever, they wanted our country back from the Obama/Clinton era.  And I agree with that.

You all can buy popcorn and sit back and diss the rest of us but you won't be laughing when the country turns socialist.

Why don't you stop excoriating the forum for daring to have a different opinion than you.

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« Reply #121 on: May 20, 2017, 06:21:37 pm »
You, @geronl @bolobaby  et al.

Wow.  Still sulling and so proud as you retire from the fray because of past hurts and hates.

What about the country? 


We're fighting on the battlefield you people have abandoned and want noting to do with.  We advocate for the ground that liberty's entire existence as a thought depends upon.

You're stuck on fighting for a man.

I was a Trump hater also, but I gave it up when there was no longer any profit or value in it and when I saw the left was using you to try to get rid of a duly elected president.

The Trump militant has done the Left's job in driving Principled Christian Conservatives from your ranks.  Each time we get berated and threatened for not supporting Trump enough, or daring to say anything critical of Trump, you drive us further away to be regarded as enemies.

So be it.  As GeronL said - we will watch you and the Left duke it out over politics and politicians while munching on popcorn.

You all can buy popcorn and sit back and diss the rest of us but you won't be laughing when the country turns socialist.

We're already there, and I got new for you sweetie, the MAJORITY of the population in this country WANT Socialism, and the very party you support wants Socialism - as long as they get to manage it.

And Socialism does not leave the bloodstream via politics.

That battle takes place on the ground you have abandoned and have no use for.
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #122 on: May 20, 2017, 06:48:21 pm »
You, @geronl @bolobaby  et al.

Wow.  Still sulling and so proud as you retire from the fray because of past hurts and hates.

What about the country? 

I was a Trump hater also, but I gave it up when there was no longer any profit or value in it and when I saw the left was using you to try to get rid of a duly elected president.

Whether his voters wore rose-colored glasses or whatever, they wanted our country back from the Obama/Clinton era.  And I agree with that.

You all can buy popcorn and sit back and diss the rest of us but you won't be laughing when the country turns socialist.
Yes, what about the Socialists, EmJay? What did you do to fight Socialism today?
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Re: This Is A Coup Against Our Right To Govern Ourselves
« Reply #123 on: May 20, 2017, 06:58:15 pm »

We're fighting on the battlefield you people have abandoned and want noting to do with.  W

That battle takes place on the ground you have abandoned and have no use for.

You are not fighting any battle.  You have nowhere to go because you are living in some utopia of your own making.

The rest of us are fighting here in the real world ... not for some esoteric perfection that has never existed but for the best America possible right now.

I don't know what you think you can accomplish by sitting way up there on your high horse deriding those of us in the trenches.
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« Reply #124 on: May 20, 2017, 07:11:57 pm »

Yes, the horrors of the Press asking 'questions'.. Oh the humanity...

I have no problems with the press asking questions. It is their making of the news that I object to!
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