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They are not just attacking Trump, but his voters. And they all may soon regret it.

For the moment let's put to one side whether Donaldus Minimus is in fact impeachable. (I don't think
he is---yet---but I learned a long time ago never to say never about anyone presiding over or belonging
to the nation's largest organised crime family.) Everybody with me? All right. Now listen up:

We should remember that a line like "they're not just attacking him but his voters" is exactly
what Droopy-Drawers Clinton's supporters used to say when impeachment talk began wafting up about
their hero, and when he not only proved impeachable but was in fact impeached. 

If---big "if"---Donaldus Minimus should become impeachable, it isn't an attack on his voters, any
more than impeachment proceedings beginning regarding Richard Nixon (who resigned before he might
well have been impeached) was an attack on his voters, any more than the actual impeachment of
Droopy-Drawers was an attack on his voters.

Disagree as you will about how their voters voted, but don't make the mistake of visiting the sins of
a president or other elected official upon those who elected him in (we presume) good faith.

(For future reference: Neither should anyone make the mistake---again setting to one side whether
the incumbent is impeachable---of suggesting that any such impeachment talk equals "usurping"
the "will of the people," the way enough did during the Droopy-Drawers contretemps, since it is
well enough implied that, when you vote for a particular presidential candidate, you also endorse
his/her choice of a running mate and by extension said running mate's competence to assume
the presidency in the event the president-to-be should be incapacitated, impeached, or God forbid
interred.)
« Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 12:45:02 am by EasyAce »


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OMG

No redundancy and no backups?  WTF?

That was my exact reaction.

Did I not read correctly that JR's fundraisers are like close to 300 grand a year?

WTF did he do with all the money?  Not even a redundant backup for a database server???

Hell, I have 3 backup drives for my workhorse and two archive drives - and it's not even for a server of any kind.

Sounds a lot like a take the money and run operation.
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For the moment let's put to one side whether Donaldus Minimus is in fact impeachable. (I don't think
he is---yet---but I learned a long time ago never to say never about anyone presiding over or belonging
to the nation's largest organised crime family.) Everybody with me? All right. Now listen up:

We should remember that a line like "they're not just attacking him but his voters" is exactly
what Droopy-Drawers Clinton's supporters used to say when impeachment talk began wafting up about
their hero, and when he not only proved impeachable but was in fact impeached. 

If---big "if"---Donaldus Minimus should become impeachable, it isn't an attack on his voters, any
more than impeachment proceedings beginning regarding Richard Nixon (who resigned before he might
well have been impeached) was an attack on his voters, any more than the actual impeachment of
Droopy-Drawers was an attack on his voters.

Disagree as you will about how their voters voted, but don't make the mistake of visiting the sins of
a president or other elected official upon those who elected him in (we presume) good faith.

They have a Special Counsel investigation now, so if there are indeed issues that warrant such a thing - then those will be brought forth, unless Trump is as skilled a dealmaker as the Clintons are to let him skate if there are in-fact - actionable offenses.

What will be revealing is if the Trump supporters are as invested into Trump as Hildabeast's minions were to her, if any credible evidence emerges of criminality, misdemeanors  and wrong doing.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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What will be revealing is if the Trump supporters are as invested into Trump as Hildabeast's minions were to her, if any credible evidence emerges of criminality, misdemeanors  and wrong doing.
You should ignore high crimes and misdemeanors...for America! :patriot:

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   Guilty as Charged @anubias I've been throwing that term around a lot since FR went down and I began getting beat with the hate Trump stick, again, because usually Trumpsters don't mind that nomenclature any more than I would be offended by being called a Cruzer.

I rather like it if the truth is known.  I don't give a flip what you people call me as I've grown rather accustomed to the name-calling by some of the NTs.

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I rather like it if the truth is known.  I don't give a flip what you people call me as I've grown rather accustomed to the name-calling by some of the NTs.

NeverTrumpers didn't start it, and they aren't nearly as mean or profane as the Trump supporters have been.

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5 groups trying to destroy the @POTUS 1-Media 2-Democrats. 3-Deep State/intelligence 4-weak establishment Republicans 5-Never Trumpers!

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6-globalists (other than the ones in his cabinet)
7-neocons (other than the ones in his cabinet
8-his cabinet
9-Melania

Trump has united so many.

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OMG

No redundancy and no backups?  WTF?

Sorry.... but..... I just don't believe in the possibility of that level of incompetence.  Not from someone that has run "the formerly premier conservative site on the net" for almost two decades.   External backup isn't that expensive these days.  Somebody's lying.
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For the moment let's put to one side whether Donaldus Minimus is in fact impeachable. (I don't think
he is---yet---but I learned a long time ago never to say never about anyone presiding over or belonging
to the nation's largest organised crime family.) Everybody with me? All right. Now listen up:

We should remember that a line like "they're not just attacking him but his voters" is exactly
what Droopy-Drawers Clinton's supporters used to say when impeachment talk began wafting up about
their hero, and when he not only proved impeachable but was in fact impeached. 

If---big "if"---Donaldus Minimus should become impeachable, it isn't an attack on his voters, any
more than impeachment proceedings beginning regarding Richard Nixon (who resigned before he might
well have been impeached) was an attack on his voters, any more than the actual impeachment of
Droopy-Drawers was an attack on his voters.

Disagree as you will about how their voters voted, but don't make the mistake of visiting the sins of
a president or other elected official upon those who elected him in (we presume) good faith.

(For future reference: Neither should anyone make the mistake---again setting to one side whether
the incumbent is impeachable---of suggesting that any such impeachment talk equals "usurping"
the "will of the people," the way enough did during the Droopy-Drawers contretemps, since it is
well enough implied that, when you vote for a particular presidential candidate, you also endorse
his/her choice of a running mate and by extension said running mate's competence to assume
the presidency in the event the president-to-be should be incapacitated, impeached, or God forbid
interred.)

You are precisely wrong, it would be a direct and intentional attack on his voters. That's because there is no underlying crime anywhere in sight...not an iota of evidence has emerged that is indicative of anything. For example, the president "hoped" the FBI would bring the Flynn investigation to an end....well...hope is not a crime (nor is it interfering with an investigation. Further, there hasn't been ANY evidence given showing ANY connection between the President and his campaign relating to Russia. On the contrary, this whole shenanigan has been notable only for the utter lack of any such evidence.

So, all that remains is a media and a party...the Dems...and some ignominious Republican/NT enablers....seeking to overturn a presidential election. THAT act IS an assault on the voters who put Donald Trump into the White House...it is an act of volition meant to assert their belief that we elected a man they deem unacceptable. How you can try to claim that as anything but an attack on Trump voters is beyond reason.

Here's the good news. President Trump will win this fight, because he is and will be relentless in fighting back against it. He will not roll over and accept it like many RINO's do, he will not seek to camouflage himself as an honorary liberal like the Bush bunch, and he will not hunker down in useless isolation like the NT'rs and uberCons do. No. He will fight, and because the people in general understand who the Dems and the Media have become, he will win.
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You are precisely wrong, it would be a direct and intentional attack on his voters. That's because there is no underlying crime anywhere in sight...not an iota of evidence has emerged that is indicative of anything.
Obviously, you missed the part where I said, in very plain language, and I quote, If---big "if"---Donaldus Minimus should become impeachable . . .

I also said, well prior to that, I don't think he is---yet---but I learned a long time ago never to say never about anyone presiding over or belonging
to the nation's largest organised crime family.


That is not the same thing as saying he is impeachable. I don't think he is just yet. He may never be. But if
he becomes impeachable by way of one or another act, no, it would not be an attack upon his voters. Remember the key
word---if.

(And if I expressed a wariness toward the political class of all stripes, I wouldn't exactly make it out to be a terrible thing. Trust, but verify isn't
exactly the worst way to approach.)
« Last Edit: May 18, 2017, 03:37:48 am by EasyAce »


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OMG

No redundancy and no backups?  WTF?

Yep, not sure if you read his post quoted on another thread. Apparently the database is kept on a single hard drive and that crashed hard. John had to take it home to try to recover the data from it and was having a difficult time.

Now, I will give him an ounce of the benefit of the doubt he has no idea what he is talking about or John fed him a line to appease him, but if taken at face value, it is very, very disturbing.

Hell, for my personal home network, not even counting the storage in the computers, I have three backups of critical data at all times (2 current data HDs (and multiple archival ones) plus a cloud backup).

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@AbaraXas

They might end up stopping by more often, according to what I saw on the FR Facebook page.  Jim said he's old and stubborn and doesn't want his data "in the clouds."  Said he prefers to keep it all secret where only he and John can access it.


I don't think he understands what 'the cloud' is.

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@AbaraXas you obviously don't know how expensive Hard Drives and Backups can be., It's hard to maintain on a limited budget of $325k/year. /s 

  I'd bet the owners here do it on a tenth of that even without constant Briefathons.
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@AbaraXas you obviously don't know how expensive Hard Drives and Backups can be., It's hard to maintain on a limited budget of $325k/year. /s 

  I'd bet the owners here do it on a tenth of that even without constant Briefathons.
  All should show their appreciation and donate, I know I do. 
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Not even 1% of that (at that, not even .5% of that). And this site has multiple redundancies as well as security monitoring. Myst usually has a short fundraiser once a year and it is over in a day. Not only that, our traffic has increased to over 30 Million visits per year (about 1/5th FR based on the last numbers I could find). Note: hard to have a current comparison because they use Alexa data which has become useless in the past few years, but we have our own data tracking built in and make it available to members to see.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?action=stats

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   Thanks for sharing that STATS Page @AbaraXas we have got a lot of new members the last few days, I love them all.
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   Thanks for sharing that STATS Page @AbaraXas we have got a lot of new members the last few days, I love them all.

Historically we are in an off season election wise, so we should be slowing down, but we are keeping up with last year which had a YUGE spike in traffic and members. We are trending to meet or exceed last year's record numbers.

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I don't think he understands what 'the cloud' is.

Sure he does.


It's a little puffy white thing up in the sky.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Trump and his voters declared war on everybody else a long time ago.

I hope they enjoy their ride to the bottom of the crater.

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Trump and his voters declared war on everybody else a long time ago.

I hope they enjoy their ride to the bottom of the crater.

And I hope you and your GOPe puppet masters enjoy your ride along with the rest of the country down the tubes. See how that works?

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Trump and his voters declared war on everybody else a long time ago.

I hope they enjoy their ride to the bottom of the crater.

Damn @Cripplecreek ... you best get busy and make some room for us.... we're a very large group!


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Sure he does.


It's a little puffy white thing up in the sky.
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Trump and his voters declared war on everybody else a long time ago.

I hope they enjoy their ride to the bottom of the crater.
What you don't seem to understand is that you will also be "enjoying" that ride to the bottom of the crater.  The crater doesn't pick and choose.  Unlike you, I'm not willing to sit buy and let that happen just to say "I told you so".  If it makes you feel any better you can scream it as you are sucked in. *****rollingeyes*****

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I honestly just wish Trump would admit he's not a good fit and go away.

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And I hope you and your GOPe puppet masters enjoy your ride along with the rest of the country down the tubes. See how that works?

Ummmm............ I hate to break it to you, but Trump IS the Establishment.

It's those of us who opposed him who are thinking for ourselves and not in blind obeisance to a "puppet master."

You need to get some new lines.  They may work at TOS, but they were dissected and destroyed here LONG ago.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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I honestly just wish Trump would admit he's not a good fit and go away.

Would that he had that much honor.   :shrug:
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.