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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2017, 06:59:11 am »
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QUICK! Name the conservative candidate that was running.
That's easy. Darrell Castle, Constitution Party.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2017, 07:06:11 am »
At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!


Nonsense. The electoral college elects the POTUS, and if our votes didn't change crap there, they had no effect except to register our protest about the nature of the other candidates and support whatever candidate we voted for. A vote for Darrell Castle in ND did not change anything in re Hillary vs Trump, but it did register support for Castle and the Constitution Party. IOW, I could and did vote perfectly in line with my conscience and did nothing to upset anyone's rotten apple cart. (I voted for neither liberal from NY, nor the Libertines, socialists, or others, but for a candidate who embraced returning the Federal Government to an originalist interpretation of the Constitution in theory and practice.)
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2017, 07:49:40 am »


At BEST,you are enablers. You earned it,wear it!


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Exactly... if the same election was held today and I knew Trump was to lose by one vote, I still would not vote for him. Principle matters to some of us. My write in vote of Tom Hoelfling may of not broke a ripple locally, but it allowed me to sleep somewhat better.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #28 on: May 14, 2017, 11:50:23 am »
That's easy. Darrell Castle, Constitution Party.

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"Constitution Party"? Is that a new sitcom on Fox?

Never heard of Castle. For all the good you did,you might as well have voted for me,and I wasn't even running.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2017, 11:52:13 am »
Nonsense. The electoral college elects the POTUS, and if our votes didn't change crap there, they had no effect except to register our protest about the nature of the other candidates and support whatever candidate we voted for. A vote for Darrell Castle in ND did not change anything in re Hillary vs Trump, but it did register support for Castle and the Constitution Party. IOW, I could and did vote perfectly in line with my conscience and did nothing to upset anyone's rotten apple cart. (I voted for neither liberal from NY, nor the Libertines, socialists, or others, but for a candidate who embraced returning the Federal Government to an originalist interpretation of the Constitution in theory and practice.)

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2017, 11:54:40 am »
@sneakypete

Exactly... if the same election was held today and I knew Trump was to lose by one vote, I still would not vote for him. Principle matters to some of us. My write in vote of Tom Hoelfling may of not broke a ripple locally, but it allowed me to sleep somewhat better.

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Yeah,national elections aren't about saving the Republic,they are about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"

Good call!

Has your guy gone back to his paper route?
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2017, 12:11:32 pm »
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Yeah,you guys remind me of the guys that buy the blow-up rubber women and pretend they are dating.
They're easier to get rid of if it doesn't work out.  :nometalk:

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2017, 12:18:00 pm »
@Sighlass

Yeah,national elections aren't about saving the Republic,they are about "Me,ME,ME,DAMMIT!"

Good call!

Has your guy gone back to his paper route?
Trump has done some good things, but I'm waiting, and not holding my breath, because it is going to take a lot more than one guy to save it.
 
We got what y'all voted for, you'd think you'd be happy. **nononono*

Last sitcom I watched on Fox was called "the five" or something like that. Yawn....
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2017, 12:20:41 pm »
I won't vote for trash like Trump simply because I'm daring his garbage fans to stop slapping their gums together and get to punishing me.

This particular piece of trash claims to be a minister but he sounds a lot more like a mullah.



You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek

Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.   
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2017, 12:21:04 pm »
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Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2017, 12:22:35 pm »
You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek

Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.

@DCPatriot

Doesn't take scanning Twitter...just takes a few moments spent at TOS...
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2017, 12:22:54 pm »
@Smokin Joe

Yeah,you guys remind me of the guys that buy the blow-up rubber women and pretend they are dating.

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2017, 12:25:17 pm »
@sneakypete

Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?

Not at all.  Why do that and rob all of us of the terrific entertainment value you provide?

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2017, 12:27:15 pm »
Not at all.  Why do that and rob all of us of the terrific entertainment value you provide?
Have fun while you can, now that the republic was saved! Bigly! 

Cankles is sliding a little closer to an orange jumpsuit.

They're going to use already approved funding to replace 2% of the fence with wall.

And Obamacare is in-the-box dead. So...Oh. That hasn't happened yet.

Y'all won, now what are you doing with that today?

Sorry I asked: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new

Oh yeah, winning.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2017, 12:31:47 pm »
Have fun while you can, now that the republic was saved! Bigly! 

Cankles is sliding a little closer to an orange jumpsuit.

They're going to use already approved funding to replace 2% of the fence with wall.

And Obamacare is in-the-box dead. So...Oh. That hasn't happened yet.

Y'all won, now what are you doing with that today?

.....and it's 'only' May 14th?

Gee!  A week shy of FOUR MONTHS into his Administration!

WTF are they waiting for????        :whistle:     /s
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2017, 12:33:50 pm »
.....and it's 'only' May 14th?

Gee!  A week shy of FOUR MONTHS into his Administration!

WTF are they waiting for????        :whistle:     /s
Yeah, he's been changing appointees like underwear, so it seems longer.
Here's a real cutie. He's keeping this promise.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2017, 12:37:44 pm »
They're easier to get rid of if it doesn't work out.  :nometalk:

 

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2017, 12:40:18 pm »
@DCPatriot

Doesn't take scanning Twitter...just takes a few moments spent at TOS...

Yup, early on I was threatened with everything from deportation to execution by noobs at TOS while people I once considered friends cheered them on.

They may not have the stones to pull the trigger but I'll never doubt that they would happily drive the bulldozers to cover the mass graves of their opposition.

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2017, 12:56:11 pm »
Trump has done some good things, but I'm waiting, and not holding my breath, because it is going to take a lot more than one guy to save it.
 
We got what y'all voted for, you'd think you'd be happy. **nononono*


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I honestly don't know one single person that is happy that Trump is the President,but I do know a BUNCH of people who are glad the Clinton's aren't back in the WH.

As for Trump,his ego is going to demand he does SOME things to get his name in the history books as an "important President". No one knows what these things will be yet,or how many of them there will be. Face it,he is a spoiled brat prima donna who trip through life has been on greased skids. He is used to getting his way,so he is likely to get his back up against the wall if someone/anyone tries to stand in his way. He is a wheeler dealer with no core principles other than "*I* am a winner and everybody else is losers!",so he is likely to compromise on anything he claims to want if he can get 51 percent of what he wants so he can call it a "victory" and technically be correct.

The only question is "51 percent of WHAT?". Here is where his wheeling and dealing comes in. As a businessman,he is used to asking for several times what he really wants so he can "be talked into settling for less".  The whole "The art of the deal" thing.

Facing him will be the professional criminal class of thieves and traitors we call "professional politicians/Party People". None of them give a damn about getting even a percentage of what they claim to want because their careers are based on lies,and their supporters WANT to be lied to. If they can get to call something a "victory" even if they didn't get a single damn thing they wanted,they are good to go. Oftentimes,what they REALLY want is a loss after being SEEN to SEEM to have fought for it tooth and talon because this increases their public support as well as their contributions. All they have to do is hold a press conference and be seen to be wiping tears as they moan about how "I WANTED to give everyone a million dollar per year guaranteed income,but those damn evil rich Republicans killed my program!" Such dog and pony shows guarantee re-elections to keep the bribes flowing in,so it ends up being a victory for them because that's what they wanted to start with.

I don't know how this is going to work out,but I am positive about a couple of things,one is there is no such thing as a narcissistic sociopath that can even tolerate the idea of losing big on big promises,and the other is that no matter how little good Trump gets done,it will be a hell of a lot more good than the Clinton's would have accomplished,and a lot less evil will be done. Trump knows the survival of his riches and lifestyle are totally dependent on the survival of our system,so he is not going to purposely do ANYTHING that harms America or our system of government.

IMHO,the dark horses in all this are his advisors and his in-laws,who all seem to have a "Bleep YOU,ME FIRST!" attitude. It's his nature to trust family,and somebody needs to remind him  that "rent-a-inlaws" are not the same thing as actual family members.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2017, 01:01:16 pm »
You are a sad piece of work there, @Cripplecreek

Scanning Twitter for posts like that so that you can group all of us into the same mindset to justify your ignorance.

@DCPatriot @Cripplecreek

I also think you are wrong,either purposely or by allowing your hatred to blind you to the obvious. That black preacher lives in the wrinkles of one of Bubbette's butt cheeks.  THAT is why he is calling Trump supporters losers.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2017, 01:03:02 pm »
@sneakypete

Your guy won....why is your nose so out of joint about those who did not vote for him...unless it's your intention to silence us?

@Axeslinger


First of all,he's not and never has been "my guy". Who he is,is "the ONLY guy that could keep the Clinton's out of the White House.

Secondly,if you enjoy proving you are a fool,who am I to stop you?
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2017, 01:03:39 pm »
@sneakypete Well, I didn't want her, either, but with 60+% of the state voting for him, he didn't need me anyway, and I'd been told that, repeatedly. No problemo! For the only time since Reagan, I have voted for a candidate I could wholeheartedly support.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2017, 01:07:28 pm »
Yeah, he's been changing appointees like underwear, so it seems longer.
Here's a real cutie. He's keeping this promise.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=262786.new#new

@Smokin Joe

It is going to absolutely break your heart if he gets even a part of the wall built,and gets Bubbette! to cop a plea to avoid prosecution,ain't it?

What we KNOW to be a fact already is that in less than 4 months the numbers of illegal aliens living in the US has plummeted,and the Clinton's are desperately scrambling to pretend to be relevant after a 30+ year run of nothing but successes.
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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2017, 01:23:31 pm »
@Smokin Joe

It is going to absolutely break your heart if he gets even a part of the wall built,and gets Bubbette! to cop a plea to avoid prosecution,ain't it?

What we KNOW to be a fact already is that in less than 4 months the numbers of illegal aliens living in the US has plummeted,and the Clinton's are desperately scrambling to pretend to be relevant after a 30+ year run of nothing but successes.

Damn, @sneakypete

'Love' the hell out of you!   

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Re: Time for Conservatives and Republicans to Stand Up to Trump
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2017, 01:24:23 pm »
@Axeslinger


First of all,he's not and never has been "my guy". Who he is,is "the ONLY guy that could keep the Clinton's out of the White House.

Secondly,if you enjoy proving you are a fool,who am I to stop you?

@sneakypete

How interesting that you consider living by ones own individual principles to be foolish (and before you go there, oh yes voting in opposition to your principles is most decidedly NOT living up to your principles)

So, basically, you're just like every lib out there preaching about tolerance and diversity as long as it's in keeping with YOUR tolerance and diversity.

Duly noted...thank you for invalidating your opinion henceforth.
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