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News that ‘the crash that killed Tucker Carlson was no accident’ was no mistake … it was fake
May 14, 2017 | Tom Tillison | Print Article   


In a story that encapsulates just how reckless social media can be in disseminating fake news — and how gullible people can be — a false report that Fox News’ Tucker Carlson was killed in a car accident swept across Facebook.

A fake news site claimed Tucker “succumbed to his injuries and died overnight after being hit head-on while driving home,” according to The Inquisitr.

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/05/14/news-crash-killed-tucker-carlson-no-accident-no-mistake-fake-491029
…and the death hoax was shared on Facebook more than 16K times overall.
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Who starts that kind of stuff?  It's kind of creepy.

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Who starts that kind of stuff?  It's kind of creepy.

reminds me of all the sites declaring Hillary is going to prison and stuff

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reminds me of all the sites declaring Hillary is going to prison and stuff

True enough, fake news is not unique to the left.

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True enough, fake news is not unique to the left.

I have seen them on Facebook, there are dozens of fake news Trumper sites.

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True enough, fake news is not unique to the left.

The level and number of ones targeting the right seem to be far more. We know there is a huge ring out of Macedonia and Russia creating these fake news sites (hundreds) and dumping stories all over social media. It is well beyond clickbait, it is overt fake news; like this article's story.  It seemed to start out in mid Obama term with all of the Bill Still circle of sites and sites like the Daily Currant and National Report. Then when the Macedonians and Russians jumped on board during the election, it blew up.  Even websites that used to be affiliated with major figures on the right, like Allen West and Sarah Palin have either been taken over by these or are just purposefully passing along the stories, either out of ignorance or hope for hits.

The ones that target the left seem to be a bit more targeted, fake medical sites, corporate conspiracies, and the such. There are a few that push it, like Occupy Democrats, but nothing on the level we see targeting the right.
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I remember the panic mongers who were saying stuff like "There is a huge methane bubble that reaches 300 miles inland and one spark and the whole gulf coast will blow up." during BP's blowout down in the gulf. It took a couple of months at TOS to convince people that it just wasn't so...

But panicked people in reactive mode are so much easier to stampede.

Between that and the whole knee-jerk fealty thing, it's hard to say what would be more useful to whom. The bogus stuff could condition people to ignore genuine bad news, and blow it off as fake.
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I remember the panic mongers who were saying stuff like "There is a huge methane bubble that reaches 300 miles inland and one spark and the whole gulf coast will blow up." during BP's blowout down in the gulf. It took a couple of months at TOS to convince people that it just wasn't so...

But panicked people in reactive mode are so much easier to stampede.

Between that and the whole knee-jerk fealty thing, it's hard to say what would be more useful to whom. The bogus stuff could condition people to ignore genuine bad news, and blow it off as fake.

Don't get me started on TOS and this stuff. There are so many trolls there using it to push bogus stories for the laughs and to influence thinking on the right (they still dominate search engine results due to their age and number of articles). Whatever percentage of real members are left, a majority believe because they want to believe. I haven't seen a good, critical take down of any story that didn't fit the agenda they want to push in a long time. At that, if you try to point out the fallacy in an article they want to believe, they'll pile on you and try to get you zotted.

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It is well beyond clickbait...

That it is.  SO much of it.

On Facebook and other places where online ads exist - there are one word headlines such as this one from yesterday: "INCREDIBLE: Trey Gowdy just gave Trump a huge surprise. Here's his message to the President. This is a GAME CHANGER."  Clicking on the link - it takes you to an ad-filled (and sleazy ads too) site (Real Patriot News/Angrypatriotmovment in this case) that took a quote from a wire story where Gowdy was asked if Comey should be replaced wherein he said 'Yes".  That's it.  No other verifiable news, just a quote of 'yes' from a news story that took place after Comey's exoneration of Hillary over her e-mails.  They have created the illusion that Trump is going to make him next FBI Director.

Myriad stuff like this even from quasi-legit places such as Allen B West and Mark Levin, where cliffhanger questions force you to click their links to get the answer - and often it is a question created from a news story that none of us would bother to click on because it's old news we read yesterday.

We are being bombarded by this crap to the point we will no longer be able to know for certain what is real, what is true or not anymore.

And lurking behind it all, is a push for government to vet and license journalism, whereby no one else is granted 1st Amendment Rights.
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I remember the panic mongers who were saying stuff like "There is a huge methane bubble that reaches 300 miles inland and one spark and the whole gulf coast will blow up." during BP's blowout down in the gulf. It took a couple of months at TOS to convince people that it just wasn't so...

But panicked people in reactive mode are so much easier to stampede.

Between that and the whole knee-jerk fealty thing, it's hard to say what would be more useful to whom. The bogus stuff could condition people to ignore genuine bad news, and blow it off as fake.

I haven't forgotten what Cass Sunstein wrote about using conspiracy theories to stir a base to action or discredit the opposition. Sometimes the same conspiracy theory can be used for both at the same time. If a conspiracy theory can encourage your base to get out in the streets its great but its even better if the opposition believes and spreads it. When its exposed as false it harms the believing opposition more than the believing base.

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....We are being bombarded by this crap to the point we will no longer be able to know for certain what is real, what is true or not anymore.

And lurking behind it all, is a push for government to vet and license journalism, whereby no one else is granted 1st Amendment Rights.

I didn't think about it, but you are absolutely right. This used to be a common call from the left, to 'register journalists and news sites', to the point they've taken it to the Supreme Court. I've seen lately the same calls just as loudly from the right along with their chants of 'fake news' for everything they disagree with (real, fake, or in between). They want their own people to determine what is real and to authorize it.  In the end, the information is controlled by those on top.

I was thinking more in terms of money and trolling, but something like this could be the bigger end game. Dump so much fake out there, people scream for regulation.

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I haven't forgotten what Cass Sunstein wrote about using conspiracy theories to stir a base to action or discredit the opposition. Sometimes the same conspiracy theory can be used for both at the same time. If a conspiracy theory can encourage your base to get out in the streets its great but its even better if the opposition believes and spreads it. When its exposed as false it harms the believing opposition more than the believing base.

Remember "Hillary's Secret War" from around 2008. A book documented how she used online fake accounts to influence news, both to steer positive her way, but also to discredit the right and get them chasing rabbits. A now former freeper wrote it and actually was able to get inside info on how it was used against that site too.

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I didn't think about it, but you are absolutely right. This used to be a common call from the left, to 'register journalists and news sites', to the point they've taken it to the Supreme Court. I've seen lately the same calls just as loudly from the right along with their chants of 'fake news' for everything they disagree with (real, fake, or in between). They want their own people to determine what is real and to authorize it.  In the end, the information is controlled by those on top.

I was thinking more in terms of money and trolling, but something like this could be the bigger end game. Dump so much fake out there, people scream for regulation.

Good point. In recent years there have been calls in Michigan to register or license "legitimate" journalists and news sites. Bad news from the git go.

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Just today reading an article about Bo Dietle  (sp) .....running for Mayor of NYC.   During his time at FNC his company was responsible for investigating the women who accused Roger Ailes, and posting ugly lies about them on various web sites to destroy their reputations.   And what do you know, he also worked with Bannon at Breitbart to spread attacks on the web.  They went after Ruddy at NewsMax too.
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I understand one of the new party games is to see who can come up with how many
celebrities and other famous people have been the subject of fake death rumours in the
last year . . .


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

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This stuff is "diabolical." Trump must be behind it all, with all his money and his Russia connections.  In fact maybe he probably owns the internet, too--in cahoots with AlGore too.

I trust the liberals/democrats/socialists/communists and trusty #nevertrump internet sleuths will have them all behind bars, if only....

click,click,click, suckaa

In fact maybe Trump is in cahoots with Clinton/Bush and the meeting on the tarmac in Phoenix was merely to nail down the scenario.

Maybe the Trump/Comey episodes are just acting out the drama. 

Or maybe the aliens have already landed, taken over with clever invasion of the internet because they are ahead of us, not behind us.

But they are so far advanced, they can make us think they are behind, and make us clicka,clicka,clicka  Suckaa

Trump has Cruz for dinner multiple time, but the meatloaf is infused with drugs to take over even Cruz' mind along this journey. As Cruz now calls it, "the circus."

Headline "Was Cruz drugged?" "Why isn't Cruz fighting back?" "Is Cruz himself, in on the circus?"

It is maceeffingdonia !!
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The Swine Flu panic was just a ruse to cause people to stop visiting Mexico, which was payback for the tortilla riots, which were created by ethanol subsidies, which were . . .

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