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Mini Ice Age Coming
« on: May 08, 2017, 07:46:14 pm »
a2amarketresearch.com   May 2, 2017 by A2a Market Research Staff

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    Looking forward to the next few solar cycles, her model predicts that from 2030 to 2040 there will be cause for a significant reduction in solar activity, which again, will lead to a mini ice age.(More…)
    There is no natural mechanism that explains the switch from gradual cooling over 7000 years (the initial glaciation part of an ice age cycle) to completely reversed warming

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    Climate realists have rightfully pointed out the evidence shows total ice accumulation on Antarctica has outweighed losses, a claim bolstered by a 2015 NASA study, which found, “An increase in Antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers.”(More…)
    Arctic sea ice is about the same thickness as 75 years ago, but because people are constantly being lied to about climate by government scientists, they carry the same misconceptions which people had 60 years ago.

She states that the model can predict their influence with an accuracy of 97 percent, and says it is showing that Earth is heading for a “mini ice age” in approximately fifteen years. [1]

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Looking forward to the next few solar cycles, her model predicts that from 2030 to 2040 there will be cause for a significant reduction in solar activity, which again, will lead to a mini ice age.

Abdusamatov, 2012 “The Earth as a planet will have a negative balance in the energy budget in the future as well, because the Sun is entering the decline phase of the bicentennial luminosity changes. ? A deep bicentennial minimum in solar constant is to be anticipated in 2042 11 and the 19th Little Ice Age (for the last 7500 years) may occur in 2055 11.” [2] During the previous grand solar minima–i.e. the Sper Minimum (ca 1440-1460), the Maunder Minimum (ca 1687-1703) and the Dalton Minimum (ca 1809- 1821)–the climatic conditions deteriorated into Little Ice Age periods.” [2] Many people also mistakenly think the Little Ice Age was caused only by lower solar activity such as occurred between 1645 and 1715, a period called the Maunder minimum. [3] The higher solar activity and warmer temperatures have allowed the planet to briefly emerge from the depths of the successive solar minima periods and “Little Ice Age” cooling that lasted from the 1300s to the early 1900s. [2] To support their view, they point to the so-called Little Ice Age, a generally cooler period from approximately 1350-1850 AD. The deniers also suggest that a similar decline in temperature will happen sooner or later no matter what humans do. [3] The lowest temperatures of the Little Ice Age did occur during the Maunder minimum (1645-1715) when the sun had almost no sunspots. [3] Prolonged episodes of reduced sunspot activity, such as the Maunder Minimum, were clearly linked with an episode of extreme cooling and bitingly cold winters in Europe and North America, known as the ” little ice age “.” [2] For this reason, many people associate the Little Ice Age with the Maunder minimum. [3] Many people mistakenly think the period was similar to a “full” or “proper” ice age, which lasts thousands of years and which Radford says “can be linked to slow changes in the planet?s orbit around the sun.” [3] During the most recent ice age that ended about 12,000 years ago, average temperatures fell about 8C (14.4F) and thick ice sheets covered Scotland. [3] This will lead to the beginning of the decreasing in the Earth?s temperature and of the epoch of the Little Ice Age after the maximum phase of the 24-th solar cycle approximately since the end of 2014. [2] Miyahara et al., 2010 “Specifically, the “Little Ice Age” covers a cyclic period of cooling and glaciation which began in the 13th century and which continued into the 16th to 19th centuries, when glaciers began advancing southwards in Greenland and the North Atlantic, and perhaps worldwide.

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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2017, 08:07:01 pm »
London to be frozen solid.

Britain faces '1000 year ICE AGE' due to freak climate change

Look out @EC
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/553426/britain-ice-age-1000-year-climate-change

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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2017, 08:08:43 pm »
I wish these idiots would make up their minds...

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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2017, 09:24:36 pm »
I wish these idiots would make up their minds...

I don't think the writers of this article are the idiots.  I think they well may be correct.

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 09:27:14 pm »
I don't think the writers of this article are the idiots.  I think they well may be correct.

I think the weatherman can't tell me the weather, even day to day.

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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 09:51:14 pm »
London to be frozen solid.

Britain faces '1000 year ICE AGE' due to freak climate change

Look out @EC
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/553426/britain-ice-age-1000-year-climate-change

Got plenty of coal. Couple of years of everyone buring coal for heat and a nice, though dirty, microclimate will get going.
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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 10:32:53 pm »
I wish these idiots would make up their minds...

Not the same folks.

The article posted is a well-written (but badly sourced) summary of internet documents based on the school of climatology prevalent in Russia, that makes predictions based on solar astrophysics, rather than general circulation models of the earth's atmosphere like the AGW crowd uses.  The one scholarly citation Abdusamatov, 2012 is to a Russian (and unfortunately we can't look up the paper because not only the article posted but the source it uses that quotes from Abdusamatov doesn't provide a proper ciation to the paper).
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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2017, 11:11:19 pm »
Another  article: Modern Solar Grand Maximum Ends: ‘Little Ice Age’ Cooling Coming!

principia-scientific.org  by Kenneth Richard  Published on April 11, 2017


---In several newly published (2017) papers, scientists have suggested that a substantial deterioration into solar minimum conditions and global cooling may be imminent (see, for example, here and here and here).  What follows is a collection of dozens of other papers that have also projected a solar minimum-induced “Little Ice Age” climate for the foreseeable future.

http://principia-scientific.org/modern-solar-grand-maximum-ends-little-ice-age-cooling-coming/

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2017, 11:51:31 pm »
I don't think the writers of this article are the idiots.  I think they well may be correct.

They are educated idiots selling snake oil to the save the world morons. 

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2017, 01:15:52 am »
We shall see.

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Re: Mini Ice Age Coming
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2017, 03:00:55 am »
I'm told there was a small amount of snow in northern Connecticut today.

There's some evidence for ya!  ;)

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2017, 03:06:37 am »
I wish these idiots would make up their minds...

What minds?
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2017, 03:06:56 am »
We shall see.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2017, 04:06:15 am »

So now we are back to ice ages, as forecast in the 1968 book titled "The Population bomb."

The Population Bomb (1968)[edit]

The original edition of The Population Bomb began with this statement: "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now. At this late date nothing can prevent a substantial increase in the world death rate ..."[16] Ehrlich argued that the human population was too great, and that while the extent of disaster could be mitigated, humanity could not prevent severe famines, the spread of disease, social unrest, and other negative consequences of overpopulation. By the end of the 1970s, this prediction proved to be incorrect. However, he continued to argue that societies must take strong action to decrease population growth in order to mitigate future disasters, both ecological and social.

In the book Ehrlich presented a number of "scenarios" detailing possible future events, some of which have been used as examples of errors in the years since. Of these scenarios, Ehrlich has said that although, "we clearly stated that they were not predictions and that 'we can be sure that none of them will come true as stated,’ (p. 72) – their failure to occur is often cited as a failure of prediction. In honesty, the scenarios were way off, especially in their timing (we underestimated the resilience of the world system). But they did deal with future issues that people in 1968 should have been thinking about." Ehrlich further states that he still endorses the main thesis of the book, and that its message is as apt now as it was in 1968.[14]

Ehrlich's opinions have evolved over time, and he has proposed different solutions to the problem of overpopulation. In Population Bomb he wrote, "We must have population control at home, hopefully through a system of incentives and penalties, but by compulsion if voluntary methods fail. We must use our political power to push other countries into programs which combine agricultural development and population control."[16] Voluntary measures he has endorsed include the easiest possible availability of birth control and abortion. In 1967 he had expressed his belief that aid should only be given to those countries that were not considered to be "hopeless" to feed their own populations.[17]
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2017, 04:18:19 am »
I wish these idiots would make up their minds...

No one freakin knows....
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No one freakin knows....
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2017, 04:49:35 am »
I for one would be happy with an ice age.

I'd melt them with my dang hot flashes.


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