The trouble with House health care bill for Senate Republicans

[TomSea]

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The trouble with House health care bill for Senate Republicans
    By ALI ROGIN   May 5, 2017, 1:53 PM ET

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 Conservative GOP Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Mike Lee of Utah and Ted Cruz of Texas all tweeted after the original House bill’s introduction that they would oppose anything short of a full repeal of Obamacare. They also said the House bill's tax credit structure to help people pay for coverage amounted to a new entitlement, too similar to the subsidies available under Obamacare.

The latest House bill would provide tax credits between $2,000 and $14,000 a year for individuals who don’t get insurance coverage from an employer or the governments. The tax credits would be based on age instead of income, increasing as a person gets older.

After the House vote Thursday, Paul said he opposed the House bill because it guarantees “the fundamental promise of Obamacare kept.”

Cruz told ABC News earlier in the week that he still has “a number of concerns” about the bill, “and I think many senators do.”

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[Maj. Bill Martin]

Well, that's the problem with the bill for those Republicans.  For other Republicans, the bill isn't liberal enough.  IF you don't have the votes, it doesn't matter if you're right.

[TomSea]

Link: https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2017/05/05/look-whos-in-charge-of-your-health-care-now-cotton-picked-for-one/

These 13 Senators will write the Senate version.

[libertybele]

Well, that's the problem with the bill for those Republicans.  For other Republicans, the bill isn't liberal enough.  IF you don't have the votes, it doesn't matter if you're right.

Exactly; with the RINO filled Senate, I don't give the House bill a snowball's chance.

[corbe]

Link: https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2017/05/05/look-whos-in-charge-of-your-health-care-now-cotton-picked-for-one/

These 13 Senators will write the Senate version.

   @TomSea I wish this were true but I feel McConnell is not gonna let Lee and/or Cruz anywhere near this renaming process, they'll be sniping from the outside, knowing their vote could be very important since Schumer's not letting anyone stray, so far.  My prediction is, it dies an inglorious death in the Senate, just like it's predecessor, obummercare, is imploding now. It will be a campaign issue, again in the coming Midterms.

[libertybele]

   @TomSea I wish this were true but I feel McConnell is not gonna let Lee and/or Cruz anywhere near this renaming process, they'll be sniping from the outside, knowing their vote could be very important since Schumer's not letting anyone stray, so far.  My prediction is, it dies an inglorious death in the Senate, just like it's predecessor, obummercare, is imploding now. It will be a campaign issue, again in the coming Midterms.

McConnell may not let them near this process, but Paul and Cruz have already worked on a bill a long time ago and he will need their vote along with Lee's in order to get the thing passed. Meanwhile, both Murkowski and Collins are against defunding PP and Portman and Heller don't support the House bill at all.  Graham has stated that he is skeptical of a bill that was so rushed through. So, you very well maybe correct; it could die in the Senate.   Perhaps those running for re-election in '18 that would be a good thing...proclaiming they want full repeal!  Meanwhile ... those in the House running in '18 could have screwed themselves.

[montanajoe]

Having the bill die in the Senate is exactly what the gop wants. The gop from the top down has learned that the best way to get elected is to tell their supporters exactly what they want to hear while knowing full well their promises have zero chance of eventually becoming legislation.

They have become expert at the blame game because it works to get them elected. As long as there is a bogey man they can blame whether it is the Dims, the House, the Senate, moderates, conservatives etc., they know the voters will continue elect them. Results mean nothing, principle is passe, political leadership is a quaint bygone concept that has not existed for two generations.

Election after election of the right voting for the lessor of two evils has doomed the country to a "liberal paradise" our Founders could have never imagined...

[rodamala]

Having the bill die in the Senate is exactly what the gop wants. The gop from the top down has learned that the best way to get elected is to tell their supporters exactly what they want to hear while knowing full well their promises have zero chance of eventually becoming legislation.

They have become expert at the blame game because it works to get them elected. As long as there is a bogey man they can blame whether it is the Dims, the House, the Senate, moderates, conservatives etc., they know the voters will continue elect them. Results mean nothing, principle is passe, political leadership is a quaint bygone concept that has not existed for two generations.

Election after election of the right voting for the lessor of two evils has doomed the country to a "liberal paradise" our Founders could have never imagined...

I will never vote for a Republican again.

[libertybele]

I will never vote for a Republican again.

Which means you will vote either DEM, IND, 3rd party or not at all.  I have always been of the belief to vote for the best candidate for the position regardless of party.  Unfortunately, there have been too many times when there hasn't been a good candidate to fill a position.

[libertybele]

Having the bill die in the Senate is exactly what the gop wants. The gop from the top down has learned that the best way to get elected is to tell their supporters exactly what they want to hear while knowing full well their promises have zero chance of eventually becoming legislation.

They have become expert at the blame game because it works to get them elected. As long as there is a bogey man they can blame whether it is the Dims, the House, the Senate, moderates, conservatives etc., they know the voters will continue elect them. Results mean nothing, principle is passe, political leadership is a quaint bygone concept that has not existed for two generations.

Election after election of the right voting for the lessor of two evils has doomed the country to a "liberal paradise" our Founders could have never imagined...

IMHO the House acted very hastily and pushed this bill through.  Every single one of them is up for re-election and just about every single one of them campaigned on REPEAL in which they didn't do; they only repealed parts of it.  They never voted on full repeal which was a mistake. The RINO's in the House did this on purpose; the DEMS are defending 23 seats in the Senate in '18 and in essence, just handed them a lifeline. I found it nauseating listening to Trump praise Ryan and Preibus.  Lies and more lies.  If it dies in the Senate it's going to cost the GOP seats.  IF it passes the Senate and it doesn't offer repeal, but keeps most of Bammycare it's going to cost the GOP seats.  Say good-bye to our majority.