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Moderate Holdouts Offered $8 Billion Extra for Stability Fund to Get Their Votes on Health Care
By Haley Byrd


A GOP source close to the health care negotiations told Independent Journal Review late Tuesday night that moderate Reps. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Billy Long (R-Mo.) are considering a deal granting $8 billion in additional funding to the plan's state stability fund in exchange for the lawmakers' support on the health care bill.

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Moderate Holdouts Offered $8 Billion Extra for Stability Fund to Get Their Votes on Health Care
By Haley Byrd


A GOP source close to the health care negotiations told Independent Journal Review late Tuesday night that moderate Reps. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Billy Long (R-Mo.) are considering a deal granting $8 billion in additional funding to the plan's state stability fund in exchange for the lawmakers' support on the health care bill.

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http://ijr.com/2017/05/862558-gop-offers-moderate-holdouts-8-billion-stability-fund-get-ahca-votes/

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I'd rather see 8 billion spent to get Fred Upton out of office and sent to Venezuela where he belongs. He is a genuine piece of shit.

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I'd rather see 8 billion spent to get Fred Upton out of office and sent to Venezuela where he belongs. He is a genuine piece of shit.

Maybe we can replace him with his niece.  She liberal too, but at least she's easy on the eyes.
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So let's see if I understand this correctly.

In order to get ObamaCare passed originally the American taxpayers were forced to fund billions in bribes such as the infamous Louisiana Purchase.  Now we have to fund billions in bribes again to get the damned thing undone?

I'm not very smart but I call that extortion.

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So let's see if I understand this correctly.

In order to get ObamaCare passed originally the American taxpayers were forced to fund billions in bribes such as the infamous Louisiana Purchase.  Now we have to fund billions in bribes again to get the damned thing undone?

I'm not very smart but I call that extortion.

You're right, but the bribes worked.

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Centrists need to grow a pair and make clear exactly what they'll need to support the revised bill.    The big proposed change -  the ability of states to apply for a waiver from community rating -  does NOT deprive those with pre-existing conditions from getting coverage.   They would merely be insured separately from healthy folks in a risk pool of their own - funded by general tax revenue.

That's a welcome change,  since the problem with ObamaCare's community rating regulations has been that healthy people subsidize all the costs of the unhealthy,  driving up their premiums to such an extent that many have abandoned the marketplace.   Simply put,  ObamaCare is for most us a bad deal,  saddling us with high deductibles together with high premiums for coverage for costs above those deductibles.   

The solution is to place the chronically ill in their own pool,  and not force a small portion of the population - those unlucky enough to have no alternative to the individual marketplace - to pay their costs.  Something like five percent of participants in the ObamaCare exchanges incur costs equal to the remaining 95%.   No wonder the marketplace is failing. 

Responsibility for paying for the chronically ill should instead be spread among ALL of us -  by means of general tax revenues.   Call that socialism for the sick, if you will.   But the benefit is lower premiums and more flexible policies for the rest of us. 

Let's hope the $8 billion bribe works.   As for centrists facing tough reelection battles - man up and defend the risk pools on their merits.   The bottom line will be lower premiums for most of their constituents.   
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So let's see if I understand this correctly.

In order to get ObamaCare passed originally the American taxpayers were forced to fund billions in bribes such as the infamous Louisiana Purchase.  Now we have to fund billions in bribes again to get the damned thing undone?

I'm not very smart but I call that extortion.

Shhhhh...you can't point out stuff like that...we're being told it's a good thing.
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  Now we have to fund billions in bribes again to get the damned thing undone?


except this doesn't undo ObamaCare, simply tweaks it