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Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« on: May 02, 2017, 12:08:49 pm »
May 2, 2017
Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
By Brian C. Joondeph

Once again, Congressional Republicans delivered a swift kick to the crotch of their voters, in the form of their proposed budget this week. Congressional big spenders reached a deal Sunday, with a bill over 1600 pages in length. Almost as long as Obamacare. But at least it’s a budget. Last year Congress had no budget, instead papering over their fiscal irresponsibility via temporary spending measures.

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2017, 12:14:21 pm »
Why bother voting for Rump?

I wish I hadn't.

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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2017, 12:30:38 pm »
Might as well vote for the Democrats if you are going to vote for the Republicans.  It is a Uniparty Oligarchy after all.

I no longer vote for Republicans.  They have proven themselves utterly worthless, and I'm done being a battered wife, loyal to the party while they take a steaming dump on Conservatism and then threaten us to fall in line, shut up and sit down.

Nope.  No more

DONE.
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2017, 12:46:47 pm »
Nobody deserves the blame more than the people themselves.

So called "conservatives" keep making 180 degree course adjustments every couple of years and now have elected the most immoral lowlife degenerate NY liberal they could find to the white house and demand that republican legislators do as Trump demands. To make matters worse, Trump is clearly a compulsive liar and our legislators can't keep track of which lie Trump supporters want them to believe.

Trump and the GOP are simply an extension of the great American degeneration. Congratulations, idiocracy has been achieved under the banner of conservatism.

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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2017, 02:01:14 pm »
Nobody deserves the blame more than the people themselves.

So called "conservatives" keep making 180 degree course adjustments every couple of years and now have elected the most immoral lowlife degenerate NY liberal they could find to the white house and demand that republican legislators do as Trump demands. To make matters worse, Trump is clearly a compulsive liar and our legislators can't keep track of which lie Trump supporters want them to believe.

Trump and the GOP are simply an extension of the great American degeneration. Congratulations, idiocracy has been achieved under the banner of conservatism.

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 02:14:42 pm »
Everyone is making it like this just started happening with the GOP. It didn't. It started with the blessing and encouragement of a President and his advisor 15 years ago....


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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2017, 02:30:15 pm »
Everyone is making it like this just started happening with the GOP. It didn't. It started with the blessing and encouragement of a President and his advisor 15 years ago....



The only thing about this mess that gives me hope is, rather than voters flat voting for the socialism they're getting, they want something else but are continually falling for the GOP's lies. Maybe they'll wise up one day.

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 02:57:16 pm »
but are continually falling for the GOP's lies. Maybe they'll wise up one day.

Who else is there to vote for? Charlie Dent runs unopposed because the Rat party in the area is so decimated and the state GOP gerrymandered his seat. This is the case all over the country for a lot of RINO garbage. Even if you don't vote for them they win just by voting for themselves.

 

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 03:05:33 pm »
Who else is there to vote for? Charlie Dent runs unopposed because the Rat party in the area is so decimated and the state GOP gerrymandered his seat. This is the case all over the country for a lot of RINO garbage. Even if you don't vote for them they win just by voting for themselves.

When trash like Lisa Murkowski loses in the primary only to snake the senate seat anyway as a write in with cash & support from the establishment it makes you wonder if it will ever be possible to change things.

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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2017, 03:07:24 pm »
When trash like Lisa Murkowski loses in the primary only to snake the senate seat anyway as a write in with cash & support from the establishment it makes you wonder if it will ever be possible to change things.

We had our best shot with Cruz, but some people wanted bread and circuses instead.

Well, we got our circus.
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2017, 03:10:14 pm »
We had our best shot with Cruz, but some people wanted bread and circuses instead.

Well, we got our circus.

We didn't even get a whole circus. We got a clown.

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2017, 03:55:17 pm »
We didn't even get a whole circus. We got a clown.

Democracy---the fine art of running the circus from the monkey cage.---H.L. Mencken.


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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2017, 04:18:19 pm »
We had our best shot with Cruz, but some people wanted bread and circuses instead.

Well, we got our circus.

Would have made very little (if any) difference.  The problem is that despite having a GOP majority in Congress, we're nowhere close to having a conservative majority.  And the truth is that if you really look at what a lot of people even here advocate on various issues, it turns out their own conservatism is less than pristine as well.  So many people have their exceptions, or their particular issues, and when you add it all up, we can't get a conservative majority.

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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2017, 04:26:11 pm »
Would have made very little (if any) difference.  The problem is that despite having a GOP majority in Congress, we're nowhere close to having a conservative majority.  And the truth is that if you really look at what a lot of people even here advocate on various issues, it turns out their own conservatism is less than pristine as well.  So many people have their exceptions, or their particular issues, and when you add it all up, we can't get a conservative majority.

It would have made a huge difference.
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2017, 02:51:22 am »
The question:
Why Bother Voting for Republicans?

Once again, it's time to review Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

I don't vote for democrat/communists.
So that leaves me two possible choices:
Choice 1: vote for Republicans that might win
Choice 2: vote for third party candidates with essentially no chance to win.

The reality is:
The only effective use of one's vote (if you are not going to vote democrat/communist) is for the Pubbies...

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2017, 03:12:51 am »

I don't vote for democrat/communists.
So that leaves me two possible choices:
Choice 1: vote for Republicans that might win
Choice 2: vote for third party candidates with essentially no chance to win.

The reality is:
The only effective use of one's vote (if you are not going to vote democrat/communist) is for the Pubbies...

Homey don't play that insanity game no more, or the crap sammich that it force-feeds the slaves because they insist they have to stay on the plantation or starve.
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2017, 03:39:26 am »
The question:
Why Bother Voting for Republicans?

Once again, it's time to review Fishrrman's credo:
Reality is what it is. It is not what we believe it to be.

I don't vote for democrat/communists.
So that leaves me two possible choices:
Choice 1: vote for Republicans that might win
Choice 2: vote for third party candidates with essentially no chance to win.

The reality is:
The only effective use of one's vote (if you are not going to vote democrat/communist) is for the Pubbies...

A choice between freaks and frauds.  Oh boy.  What to do....and if you are wondering, the R's are the frauds.   There is no real choice.  R's are as fake as the media they disdain.  We are a republic in name only.  The power really belongs to the select few in the judiciary branch, the corrupt media, and the powerful few at the top rung of the two main political parties.   Those are the new three branches of our government.  We the people are just being herded by them.   Keep following blindly, working hard during campaigns by bullying all dissenters.  Worked for Trump.  Just don't pretend it's the principled side to be on or that it is somehow superior to the Democrats.  It isn't. 

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2017, 03:55:52 am »
We didn't even get a whole circus. We got a clown.
Well, he already had the orange hair and face to match.

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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2017, 04:30:14 am »
A choice between freaks and frauds.  Oh boy.  What to do....and if you are wondering, the R's are the frauds.   There is no real choice.  R's are as fake as the media they disdain.  We are a republic in name only.  The power really belongs to the select few in the judiciary branch, the corrupt media, and the powerful few at the top rung of the two main political parties.   Those are the new three branches of our government.  We the people are just being herded by them.   Keep following blindly, working hard during campaigns by bullying all dissenters.  Worked for Trump.  Just don't pretend it's the principled side to be on or that it is somehow superior to the Democrats.  It isn't.

Good reply. 

Of course they will tell you that they are superior because they pick *winners* and that is all they care about.  Your "principles" are an enemy of the good because being "pragmatic" (i.e.:having no principles) is the ticket to 'winning' and principles are for losers.    Meanwhile you and I are decreed that we have no right to bitch or moan or complain because we did not vote for their Democrat Statist moron with an R after his name.

I'm resigned to the fact that they have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and absolutely LOVE Washington DC Statism as long as the guy they cheered *won* and gets to foment punishment on twitter.
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2017, 03:08:16 pm »
Good reply. 

Of course they will tell you that they are superior because they pick *winners* and that is all they care about.  Your "principles" are an enemy of the good because being "pragmatic" (i.e.:having no principles) is the ticket to 'winning' and principles are for losers.    Meanwhile you and I are decreed that we have no right to bitch or moan or complain because we did not vote for their Democrat Statist moron with an R after his name.

I'm resigned to the fact that they have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and absolutely LOVE Washington DC Statism as long as the guy they cheered *won* and gets to foment punishment on twitter.

I assume from this that you whole-heartedly support an Article V convention, as that's the only way to rein in the federal government that doesn't require said government's acquiescence.  Right?
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Re: Why Bother Voting for Republicans?
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2017, 03:17:53 pm »
Nobody deserves the blame more than the people themselves.

So called "conservatives" keep making 180 degree course adjustments every couple of years and now have elected the most immoral lowlife degenerate NY liberal they could find to the white house
are you seriously suggesting Trump is worse NY lib than Hillary or Schumer?
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2017, 03:24:16 pm »
I assume from this that you whole-heartedly support an Article V convention, as that's the only way to rein in the federal government that doesn't require said government's acquiescence.  Right?

I'm fine with attempting one for the sake of establishing the fact that every civil attempt was made to reign in and stop tyranny so we have an established cause to do what will be necessary.

But I have no faith in such an effort.

If Mordor on the Potomac will ignore the parts of the Constitution they do not like now - it's STUPID to assume they are going to follow more additions to it that reign in their power.

We are a post-Constitutional Socialist Democracy for a reason.  More than half the population WANT what Democrats have done and are doing and it is becoming self evident that the Republican party and Trump do too.

The math is not hard.
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2017, 03:05:40 pm »
Good reply. 

Of course they will tell you that they are superior because they pick *winners* and that is all they care about.  Your "principles" are an enemy of the good because being "pragmatic" (i.e.:having no principles) is the ticket to 'winning' and principles are for losers.    Meanwhile you and I are decreed that we have no right to bitch or moan or complain because we did not vote for their Democrat Statist moron with an R after his name.

I'm resigned to the fact that they have a fatal case of Normalcy Bias and absolutely LOVE Washington DC Statism as long as the guy they cheered *won* and gets to foment punishment on twitter.
I'm convinced many of those "conservative" stalwarts in the media like Limbaugh, Hannity, Steyn, Ingraham backed Trump for one reason....they thought he'd be the only one to hold the fort on illegal immigration.
I'll bet if you could hook a polygraph to all of them, that is the reason they threw many other legitimate conservative candidates under the bus. They thought Trump would be the only one who would really back up his words with action. I'll bet all the other issues they pretended to care about were just ruses.  I don't think they cared one whit whether Trump "talked tough" to Dems or not.  Immigration was the only issue for them. They just can't admit it.

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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2017, 03:43:11 pm »
I'm convinced many of those "conservative" stalwarts in the media like Limbaugh, Hannity, Steyn, Ingraham backed Trump for one reason....they thought he'd be the only one to hold the fort on illegal immigration.
I'll bet if you could hook a polygraph to all of them, that is the reason they threw many other legitimate conservative candidates under the bus. They thought Trump would be the only one who would really back up his words with action. I'll bet all the other issues they pretended to care about were just ruses.  I don't think they cared one whit whether Trump "talked tough" to Dems or not.  Immigration was the only issue for them. They just can't admit it.

Meh.  I think the real case for Limbaugh, Steyn and Hannity is that they saw Trump sticking it to the mainstream Leftist media whom they hate more than anything else in life, and that alone (outside of thinking themselves within the inner circles of Trump influence) is what endeared them to back Trump early and throw their principles and any Conservative who would not bend to Trump, under the bus.

They wanted to see humiliation and punishment upon the media from another loudmouth who was not afraid to poke them in the eye .  I think that is the major reason why the three of those clowns that I no longer listen to - were so into Trump so early.
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